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what up doc
04-16-2007, 11:30 AM
This is a thread started for prospective students to ask question about the school. Please do not post comments irrelevant to the subject.

Dr.MMS
04-16-2007, 08:25 PM
i will be joining all saints in may semester and i was wondering that "what premedical courses is this school teaching to the premedical students coming in straight from high school? how many semesters do they put on your transcript after you are done your pre-med? ...more questions after your reply. thank you for your concern.
Dr.MMS

what up doc
04-16-2007, 09:50 PM
to see a list of the courses that are offered during premed plz view the website www.allsaintsuniversity.org ..... I am not sure how many years they put on the transcript but i will find out soon as i complete the premed part in like 1 and 1/2 week.

wanderer
04-19-2007, 04:28 PM
what hospitals do the clinicals take place and exactly which states can graduates not attain residency?

OttawaMed
04-19-2007, 04:53 PM
you cant do residency in OK, CA,NM,TX,ID and VT. all other you can, but if you do residency in NY or FL you cant get licensed there after.


clinicals are done in ACGME hospitals

what up doc
04-19-2007, 06:33 PM
OttawaMed you hit the nail right on the head but here are some things that are not entirely true.

First off if you goto the WHO website then you will see it clearly stated that WHO is not a recognizing body and hold no power thus WHO is something not to worry about if you want to practice in the states. Secondly, You can get licensing in NY, FL, and even Tx because it is done on a case by case situation no matter what Caribbean Medschool you graduate from. Lastly, atm the school has more clinical spots then students so there is really no need to go to GMCgroup for help.

OttawaMed
04-19-2007, 08:51 PM
very true, but the W.H.O is needed if we want to go back to india or pakistan or middle east one day

wanderer
04-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Thank you Ottawa....and doc, are you saying that I can get licensed basically in any state? If not which states don't license ASUM students?

OttawaMed
04-19-2007, 10:16 PM
Ca, Nm, Vt, Id, Ok.

OttawaMed
04-19-2007, 10:48 PM
W.H.O. is very important for canada, the school is taking the steps to get W.H.O. which will happen sooner then later.

also no wonder the students from this school dont use this forum, the school offers there own forum.

they have over 20 clinical sites over USA and and couple in canada.

what up doc
04-20-2007, 06:08 PM
Yes that is true that the school does offer its own forum! and here is the thing from WHO:

Health workforce

World directory of medical schools
The WHO Department of Human Resources for Health (HRH) has undertaken discussions and preliminary agreement with the University of Copenhagen, Denmark, concerning the establishment of a Global database of health professions educational institutions that will replace the current World Directory of Medical Schools. WHO has been planning to replace the World Directory of Medical School to include other academic health institutions (schools of dentistry, nursing, midwifery, pharmacy, public health, and rehabilitation specialist).
The University of Copenhagen, will start (2007) with the provision of information through this new Database. The Database will include information related to schools' accreditation, number of admissions, students, graduates, Faculty, educational resources, address, national official recognition.
An announcement will be published on the WHO/HRH website to the effect that from now on the World Directory of Medical Schools has been changed to a database and that the University of Copenhagen will run it in collaboration with WHO, the World Federation for Medical Education (WFME), the Foundation for the Advancement of International Medical Education and Research (FAIMER), International Pharmaceutical Federation and other partners. A link to the website of the database will be provided.
WHO will continue collecting and analysing relevant statistical information on health professions education and institutions based on specific needs using all data sources and making information available through the Global Health Workforce Atlas. Countries and schools interested to include their institutions in the database will provide their information to the University of Copenhagen.
In the meantime, readers are reminded that WHO has no authority to grant any form of recognition or accreditation to schools of medicine or other training institutions. Such a procedure remains the exclusive prerogative of the national government concerned.
January 2007

Asclepios
04-20-2007, 09:41 PM
If you go to the MCC website it clearly states that WHO is not required for Canada - the school has to either be WHO or IMED and All Saints is listed in IMED - I have spoken with the MCC personally regarding this issue as it was obviously a concern for me and they told me the exact same thing and stated that All Saints University in particular is O.K.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions

OttawaMed
04-21-2007, 05:47 AM
is there phone providers down there so students can use to call canada for unlimitted for like 25-30$ or something aand

are core rotations done at greenbook hospitals

what up doc
04-21-2007, 06:07 AM
most students use voip programs like skype, voip cheap, and some even use vonage. whatever fits your style.

Yes! all rotations are greenbook.

Asclepios
04-21-2007, 10:06 AM
I know alot of people right now are using VoipCheap - FREE CALLS to regular phones over the internet! (http://www.voipcheap.com) and www.freeinternetcalls.com (http://www.freeinternetcalls.com) - both of these make it so you can call the US and Canada mobile and landlines for free from your computer. My family can't even tell the difference that it is online and not a real phone. I think if you go to the website you actually get alot of countries for free. This would be of course valid for any island as long as you have internet.

OttawaMed
04-22-2007, 12:27 AM
is there rotations rounds in the hospitals of Dominica in basic sciences

what up doc
04-22-2007, 08:31 AM
yes there is

OttawaMed
04-22-2007, 09:44 AM
ok so we will need scrubs and stuff.

OttawaMed
04-22-2007, 03:30 PM
and do we need the medical kit , and will that be in use for the hospital rounds on the island.

what up doc
04-22-2007, 11:07 PM
yes you need scrub or lab coat and medical kit for anatomy practical and coat for histo and path practical. the hospital has the stuff when u go there, i believe.

sivanan
09-11-2007, 08:19 AM
hi
this school is new the way it is mention they have clinical spots in many states and in canada is not true
they are trying but the administration is very weak not organised
win

Dr.H
09-11-2007, 04:42 PM
hi
this school is new the way it is mention they have clinical spots in many states and in canada is not true
they are trying but the administration is very weak not organised
win

what are you talking about, we have 5 doctors just in toronto area willing to take students, we have green book rotations as well as 30 students in clinicals.
Admin is very helpfull and usefulll, and infact i find them to be very strong here on Dominica.

pratik
09-12-2007, 08:49 AM
well ASUM aruba is very strong since the new administration has come we do have clinicals in CHICAGO INDIANA ATLANTA and we r trying for other states too...her DR H why do u keep talking about all saints dominica here why dont u post about it in ASUSM forum..sivanan i agree its a new school but its done far better than many other schools which started off long time back...

sirJOSHalot
09-12-2007, 03:41 PM
I am not sure all of them, but I do know that we have every clinical there is in Texas. My father is a urologist, who set us up with one of everything. We are also allowed to get into residencies in Texas, I do know that much,

jameslynton
09-13-2007, 07:02 PM
I am not sure all of them, but I do know that we have every clinical there is in Texas. My father is a urologist, who set us up with one of everything. We are also allowed to get into residencies in Texas, I do know that much,You know I find this a bit difficult as that only Three Island schools are allowed past Texas medical board they are SGU, Ross and AUC. If you do even one core rotation that is not greenbook you will not be allowed to practice in Texas. Also rotations set up by a family member are disallowed by all states - you have to go thru the correct agency and approval system. Do your research!

jameslynton
09-13-2007, 07:05 PM
what are you talking about, we have 5 doctors just in toronto area willing to take students, we have green book rotations as well as 30 students in clinicals.
Admin is very helpfull and usefulll, and infact i find them to be very strong here on Dominica.If you are posting as a school official - you need to register with DOC the valueMD admin. PMing him will work.

Manroop
11-17-2007, 10:49 PM
Hi I am new to all of this, but I am trying to find out whether it is possible to come back to Canada (Toronto specifically) to do clinical rotations, also is it difficult to do so?

Nappi
11-19-2007, 01:59 AM
Hi I am new to all of this, but I am trying to find out whether it is possible to come back to Canada (Toronto specifically) to do clinical rotations, also is it difficult to do so?

Hey Manroop,

Dr. H claims that there are 5 doctors willing to take students in Toronto.
I don't know about 5; I will find out.
You can do clinicals in Canada. I believe MCC allows only 8 weeks.
Just make sure you do electives and not cores. Also do all your cores in ACGME hospitals (not the same as greenbook).
I know the sites in Chicago are ACGME hospitals, the ones in Indiana also.
I know of one student doing a rotation in Toronto at the moment.
Contact the Head office in New Jersey and ask the Dean of Clinicals if he can coordinate a site for you in Toronto.

Hope this helps
good day

namruh
01-22-2008, 08:37 AM
Hello everyone.
I have come across a catch in many of the states' policies for licensure. If you are a highschool student, going directly into Pre-med studies, even after having completed your MD, I think many states do not issue a license if you do not have an undergrad/bachelor's degree/atleast 2 years of undergradute work/60-90 college credits or something along those lines. I am from Toronto and I am looking in coming to All Saints in September 2009. I have gone through the viewbook and I think it's a great thing that All Saints offers a B.Sc degree (if you have completed the Pre-med and basic sciences program, and have some additional lab work and a dissertation). I called up the administration yesterday, and they had told me that about 20 states don't abide by that rule. If someone has already looked into the state policies and doesn't mind sharing their research with us, I would really appreciate it if I could get the names of the states that don't need the undergrad and also links to their documentation certifying their requirements (being the lazy person I am)
I also have some other questions regarding admissions into All Saints:
1) Our school year ends here in June of each year. When is a good time to apply? (here, students apply for university in December, before the Semester 1 exams that are held in the end of January)
2) What is the significance of having a WHO listing? Does it have anything to do with being eligible to sit for licensing examinations in all common-wealth countries? (Don't remember where I got that from)
3) Is a WHO listing necessary to get licensure in India?
4) Are Indian rotations easily available? Which hospitals do they currently conduct them in?

Please fill me in on my queries. More questions coming up as I try to recall them again (sigh).
Thank you.

stopex
02-27-2008, 12:00 PM
you know doc, am a prospecive student to ASUM. am a nigerian.i need some advice.i have a bachelor in medical physiology.i love asum because it is relatively cheap and it doesnt borther on MCAT or TOEFL exams. i might apply this week. is the school accredited in all US states? pls can i work while i study? how can i get loans or financial grants to sponsor my studies there? pls i really need to know a lot about the school. how does the ranking of the school look like?

AzureSephiroth
03-04-2008, 05:41 AM
you know doc, am a prospecive student to ASUM. am a nigerian.i need some advice.i have a bachelor in medical physiology.i love asum because it is relatively cheap and it doesnt borther on MCAT or TOEFL exams. i might apply this week. is the school accredited in all US states? pls can i work while i study? how can i get loans or financial grants to sponsor my studies there? pls i really need to know a lot about the school. how does the ranking of the school look like?

Hey there stopex, I'll be heading to all saints in may as well. Let me start by giving you the link to the survey conducted on All Saints Aruba:

Results: All Saints University of Medicine Aruba - Medical School Reviews - ValueMD Medical Schools Forum (http://www.premed.valuemd.com/surveys.php?do=sumresults&sid=2486)

We don't know who took the survey or if they were even students at ASUM but its there for you to read.

On their site, they state that you can get scholarship merits based on your semester performance (up to 20% I think).

salam
03-08-2008, 02:16 AM
All Saints University is committed to providing high quality education leading to an MD degree whilst keeping tuition and fees affordable. All Saints strives to ensure that it produces broadly and thoroughly educated graduates who realize that the medical profession denotes a sense of social responsibility.

Beachdoctor
03-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Hi everyone , does anyone know if All Saints Aruba offers clinicals in NC or SC ? after basic sciences is there a wait to get to the clinicals ? does the individual have a choice in this matter or are they made randomly ? thanks

desibanda
03-29-2008, 11:41 AM
i hear that the carribean medical students are "discriminated" against, they prefer students that went to US Med schools, when applying for a job or residency in the US. is this true?

dshilli1
04-03-2008, 02:38 PM
hmmm i dont think that's always the case

AzureSephiroth
04-07-2008, 06:25 PM
i hear that the carribean medical students are "discriminated" against, they prefer students that went to US Med schools, when applying for a job or residency in the US. is this true?

To a certain extent yeah...

desibanda
04-11-2008, 03:29 PM
i am a junior and i am plannig to take my MCATs over the summer, i have a 3.4 and 95 credits, should i apply to the carribean med schools? or should i wait to complete my bachelors degree?

blidMD
04-13-2008, 08:18 AM
is allsaintsuniversity listed in W.H.O list now

tennisball80
04-24-2008, 09:21 PM
i am a junior and i am plannig to take my MCATs over the summer, i have a 3.4 and 95 credits, should i apply to the carribean med schools? or should i wait to complete my bachelors degree?

Why don't you try US school first ?

louiedog
05-29-2008, 02:00 PM
Just curious as to what the percent acceptance for the Pre-med and med programs. Also, the aproximate GPAs for the Pre-med and med program for acceptees. Thanks alot, I'd appreciate it!

alopecia
07-09-2008, 04:53 PM
Do you have to be catholic to attend the school

hardik2112
07-22-2008, 09:39 PM
i dont think so

tricycle21
08-26-2008, 03:57 PM
hey, i was just wondering if we have to submit letters of recommendation, because I don't see anything about that on the application form or website.....

Magen-MD
08-28-2008, 11:58 AM
hey, i was just wondering if we have to submit letters of recommendation, because I don't see anything about that on the application form or website.....

Yes, they all pretty much, require them.

Good luck!

Magen-MD
09-27-2008, 09:49 PM
OttawaMed you hit the nail right on the head but here are some things that are not entirely true.

First off if you goto the WHO website then you will see it clearly stated that WHO is not a recognizing body and hold no power thus WHO is something not to worry about if you want to practice in the states. Secondly, You can get licensing in NY, FL, and even Tx because it is done on a case by case situation no matter what Caribbean Medschool you graduate from. Lastly, atm the school has more clinical spots then students so there is really no need to go to GMCgroup for help.

WELL SAID. STRAIGHT TO A POINT.

WHEN THE TRUTH IS CLEAR & ONE CHOOSES THE CONTRARY IT IS BECAUSE ONE REALLY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH BUT FALSE IMAGES.

THE APPEAL TO WHO IS BECAUSE OF THE GOES TO THE EMOTION AND IMAGE NOT THE INTELLECT. HENCE THE POLITICS OF TELL MASSES WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR NOT WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW, In this case, that "WHO is not a recognizing body and hold no power....." Is not what some masses want to hear, so they keep on appealing to WHO, regardless of what is clearly stated by WHO on its website. WHO is being used for symbolism purposes.

Magen-MD
=================
ASUSM will tell you what you are supposed to know not what you want to hear!

eskimo2008
10-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Most schools need atleast two. Some even need three !!

exuberant19
10-30-2008, 09:54 PM
i got accepted to All Saints U. I was wondering if it is a good school to attend? Is Aruba a very friendly island?

jameslynton
10-31-2008, 02:13 PM
i got accepted to All Saints U. I was wondering if it is a good school to attend? Is Aruba a very friendly island?Read on the Xavier forum about Aruba. Aruba is a good island but very pricey. The question is the school. I think they take everybody. There are much better schools around that have grads unlike this school.

luis1122
01-03-2009, 11:05 AM
Does anyone has the official link to the school forum?

sarahp402
02-09-2009, 05:47 PM
Can any students that are attending ASUM or have attended ASUM give me their opinion on the school.

chmiq
05-30-2009, 01:00 PM
can any body tell me place to live for a month for prep for cs in chicago?

KahalsC
08-09-2009, 08:07 AM
pls i need info on this school

KahalsC
08-14-2009, 03:04 PM
What is the diff btw the Aruba and Dominica sch?

sweetangel_shan
08-18-2009, 06:58 AM
what time does the Orientation Day on september 7 2009 start?? my flicht is on the same day. what if you miss it?

kitch
08-19-2009, 06:51 AM
Is this legitimate ?

jonesj920
08-20-2009, 01:11 PM
Hi
Would you be able to tell me the exact hospitals (names) where all these clinicals take place. It is ok saying they are all ACGME hospitals but which exact ones as there is nothing on the web site. Thanks

jonesj920
08-20-2009, 01:14 PM
How often are exams/tests and how many per semester? Thanks

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10-19-2009, 11:09 PM
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medschool?
10-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Hi,
I did my high school from Canada with an average of 80% and I am currently enrolled in a Canadian university with GPA 3.1/4.3. Am I eligible to apply for the 5 Year MD program?
Thank you

drpoundsign
11-14-2009, 10:07 AM
going to school in Mexico or the Islands is a stigma. It severely limits what you can do as an attending at least in the states. All those places take the money and run

drskinner
11-17-2009, 05:32 PM
cool; this is a very useful thread. thanks!

lilas
11-19-2009, 01:02 PM
Hi
Would you be able to tell me the exact hospitals (names) where all these clinicals take place. It is ok saying they are all ACGME hospitals but which exact ones as there is nothing on the web site. Thanks
the Baltimore hospitals/clinical programs are ACGME certified. as a matter of fact, i suggest to all ASUM students to choose the Baltimore program. the clinical director here, Dr. Scott, has done an extraordinary job choosing/matching preceptors and students.

syedifti868
01-20-2010, 05:04 PM
very helpful indeed. keep up the good work.

CARICOM-MED
02-26-2010, 07:29 AM
The main question ANY prospective student should ask ANY Caribbean Medical School is:

How Many ACGME hospitals and which states can I complete my clerkship at ??

Since basic sciences, can be completed "fairly" ok in most offshore medical schools, the main issue with some schools is the lack of placements.

Also, make sure you can complete all core and elective rotations in the 2 year mark, pre-graduation.

Cheers :)

resonance
03-30-2010, 11:40 PM
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

resonance

Whiterock
04-03-2010, 01:09 PM
I agree with Lilas that the clinical programs organized by clinical Director Dr. Scott in Baltimore is great and it is offerred not only to ASUM Aruba students but to all students who have completed basic sciences in other schools. For more information one may contact ASUM Aruba head office New Jersey or visit their website asumaruba.org

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famous
06-21-2010, 12:57 PM
hello house i have a first degree in human anatomy and have the intension of studying continuing my medical career in the caribean what year/level/class will a start start from.:confused:

urgent

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06-24-2010, 05:31 AM
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buzzfromaz
07-20-2010, 09:32 AM
Always remember that the most important thing in your pursuit is faith. Advice from people is not always helpful, which is why I turn to the inner voice as the guide. This voice is taking me places.

safavi
10-21-2010, 07:32 PM
coool.....

Dr. Tweet
10-24-2010, 10:39 AM
i am thinking of registering for January 2011. i have completed high school in the Caribbean with only busisness courses. what are the possibilities of me getting in?

MD121
10-24-2010, 01:41 PM
i am thinking of registering for January 2011. i have completed high school in the Caribbean with only busisness courses. what are the possibilities of me getting in?

These are all stipulations as I don't work for the school... but for one you REALLY need a solid science background and possibly math as well to show you're capable of medical school or else everyone would want to be a doctor.

Two - what have you done to show you're dedicated to the field and why do you want to be a doctor? Be honest with yourself and then consider applying.

Lastly - it might just be too late for January... but if you're still accepted and understand the rigors and have the correct motivation. BEST OF LUCK! :D

MD121
10-24-2010, 01:45 PM
i am thinking of registering for January 2011. i have completed high school in the Caribbean with only busisness courses. what are the possibilities of me getting in?

I just realized you might be considering the 5 Year program... in which any case, please understand it's not easy and they compact what most US students do over 4.

With the correct reasons and motivation... I still believe anyone can succeed just take the right steps to prepare yourself.

For example... I met someone who did some classes (~90 credits) in the US and went for their pre-med program and is really succesful and almost in the process of graduating and applying for residencies. If you'd like to speak with him PM me.

Dr. Tweet
10-24-2010, 07:23 PM
Yes, I am considerig the 5 Year Program.

Xlinked
02-04-2011, 01:47 PM
Do i have a chance?
GENERAL CHEMISTRY 2: C
GENERAL BIOLOGY I and 2: A-
GENERAL CHEMISTRY I: B-
PRECALCULUS: B
MICROBIOLOGY: C+
CALCULUS I& 2: C
GENERAL PHYSICS I: B
GENERAL PHYSICS II: B-
Cell Biology: C-
Organic ChemistryI: D-
General Physics Problems: C
Enhncd Human Physio & Anatomy: C
Introduction to Biochemistry: C-
Organic Chemistry 2: C
Animal Physiology Enhncd Human Physio & Anatomy 2: C-
English A's and B's
Animal Anatomy and physiology B+

I am retaking orgo I this semester and also taking genetics.
Does ross combine mcat scores?
I volunteered in ER for a year, currently volunteer as EMT, currently working with some disabled kids, did research with NIH in 2004 and I have also done medical missions in africa.
I am not exactly sure if i have a chance because my grades are really low..
combine MCAT is 18

soniaa
02-06-2011, 06:56 AM
Do i have a chance?
GENERAL CHEMISTRY 2: C
GENERAL BIOLOGY I and 2: A-
GENERAL CHEMISTRY I: B-
PRECALCULUS: B
MICROBIOLOGY: C+
CALCULUS I& 2: C
GENERAL PHYSICS I: B
GENERAL PHYSICS II: B-
Cell Biology: C-
Organic ChemistryI: D-
General Physics Problems: C
Enhncd Human Physio & Anatomy: C
Introduction to Biochemistry: C-
Organic Chemistry 2: C
Animal Physiology Enhncd Human Physio & Anatomy 2: C-
English A's and B's
Animal Anatomy and physiology B+

I am retaking orgo I this semester and also taking genetics.
Does ross combine mcat scores?
I volunteered in ER for a year, currently volunteer as EMT, currently working with some disabled kids, did research with NIH in 2004 and I have also done medical missions in africa.
I am not exactly sure if i have a chance because my grades are really low..
combine MCAT is 18

please apply to MUA, AUA, SABA, SGU, IAU, UHMS, XAVIER, St.eustatia, WINDSOR

than apply to this school, think of license, 10 year rule, loans, USMLE pass rate, Residency

chuangpat
02-23-2011, 03:16 AM
Do they take non-US citizens?

paul2845
04-05-2011, 11:34 PM
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paul2845
04-05-2011, 11:35 PM
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aman88
07-04-2011, 10:20 PM
Hi All

I'm interested in applying to schools in the Caribbean, but I'm not sure if my profile is good enough.

I did my undergrad at Carnegie Mellon (USA) in Biomedical Engineering and got a 2.5 cGPA. I have just completed my Masters in Biomedical Engineering, also from Carnegie Mellon and gotten a 3.33 cGPA.

I have not yet taken my MCAT, I was wondering what range of a score I would need to be competitive. Also, I have not taken any organic chemistry courses. These are listed as requirements, how strict are they about this? If I take them at a state school nearby will that be acceptable?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Hopful
07-20-2011, 10:45 PM
Does anyone know what this schools USMLE pass rates are? How many Doctors have they produced? Do most people find residencies within the first year? and how many hospitals is clinical available in?

Thanks!

canadaeh89
07-21-2011, 08:36 PM
hi hi hi hi hi

carib_student
08-29-2011, 06:39 PM
I am a new one looking for pros and cons for the Caribbean schools. Can someone help me please?
Thank you.

786-90
09-10-2011, 07:28 PM
Hows the pass rate ?

wannabie
11-26-2011, 11:20 AM
In the sixteen months I was in Aruba, one student passed the USMLE step 1

Manpartap
11-30-2011, 01:16 PM
In the sixteen months I was in Aruba, one student passed the USMLE step 1


Ur gonna stay a wannabe, why are u so down on life. I have proof that your lieing. I can provide you the names of students that passed step 1 with high scores. I also have vidoes of them giving speeches from aureus on my facebook. So stop your nonsense. DID YOU PASS STEP 1 is the big question?

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CARICOM-MED
07-31-2012, 09:33 AM
stick with the top 4 carib schools,
better if you can get into LCME type school (inc chances of securing residency.)
or DO program.



I am a new one looking for pros and cons for the Caribbean schools. Can someone help me please?
Thank you.

drsimbu
10-08-2012, 04:30 PM
thanks for the info..looking forward to more detalis

Abigail1509
07-13-2015, 04:37 AM
yes, there is

edufactsindia
08-25-2015, 02:19 AM
please tell me that it is important that W.H.O is needed when we come back to India.

MDBOmagic
08-26-2015, 06:22 PM
you need MCAT/?

MDBOmagic
08-26-2015, 06:23 PM
what process?

Debenhamsdiscountcode
10-07-2015, 08:45 AM
This is a thread started for prospective students to ask question about the school. Please do not post comments irrelevant to the subject. How can know the heart beat end of the person i mean How much of Time

ophelie253
11-26-2015, 08:37 PM
very true, but the W.H.O is needed







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