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fuzpot
03-21-2006, 07:00 AM
Hi guys

Has any1 considered the royal college of surgeons ireland - Graduate entry program. ?

What is the college like, and im guessing its very competitive.

thetrixster
03-21-2006, 09:05 AM
the programme is very competitive. besides that UK students are considered as international students and are required to pay around 40,000 euros a year!!!

fuzpot
03-21-2006, 10:07 AM
yes. ive been finding out some info- its very competitive!!!!.

Its meant to be an excellent medical school. But 40K euros- is far too much!. = 26-27K p/a. wow

By the way trixster, with regard to EE schools- im gonna hopefully pay for tuition fees with private funds. However, are there any institutions that offer UK students loans to study abroad?

PathOne
03-21-2006, 10:48 AM
Hi guys

Has any1 considered the royal college of surgeons ireland - Graduate entry program. ?

What is the college like, and im guessing its very competitive.

RCSI is an excellent school, with a proven track record of training physicians who wants to work in the US, and they're very good, both in terms of students' USMLE pass rates and the residencies secured by alumnae. Add to that, that Dublin is a most exxcellent city to live in (but perhaps a few too many pubs which could interfere with good study habits) ;)

However, it's expensive. Also be aware, that if you're a US applicant you can ONLY apply through the Atlantic Bridge program.

fuzpot
03-21-2006, 11:02 AM
No im in the UK. Yeah it seems a top place- dublin. So many applicants though, the atlantic bridge- does that put a quota on the number of applications from US- or can any eligible person apply from US via the bridge program.

Miklos
03-21-2006, 11:20 AM
RCSI is an excellent school, with a proven track record of training physicians who wants to work in the US, and they're very good, both in terms of students' USMLE pass rates and the residencies secured by alumnae. Add to that, that Dublin is a most exxcellent city to live in (but perhaps a few too many pubs which could interfere with good study habits) ;)

However, it's expensive. Also be aware, that if you're a US applicant you can ONLY apply through the Atlantic Bridge program.

You wouldn't happen to be a graduate, would you?

stephew
03-21-2006, 12:56 PM
its a good school and heavily oriented to non-Irish (not americans per se).

PathOne
03-21-2006, 03:05 PM
You wouldn't happen to be a graduate, would you?

Nah, not at all, but always heard good things about it. I'm one of those who got medical training for free, and only later decided to move to the US.

To the OP: If you're a UK citizen you'd qualify for the "home rate", i.e. the same tuition as Irish nationals, which is significantly lower than what they charge US and other non-EU nationals. Which is a good thing, especially if you plan to work in the UK, as top medical pay in the NHS is significantly lower than in the US (consultants top out at less than 100K GBP), so you'd be in a lot of pain if you have US-style medical school debt. However, I doubt if the Irish schools would be less competitive than UK schools to get into.

In regards to UK student loans, I'm not aware of any that would make a significant difference. Again, because loan requirements for EU-students is way, way lower than for US students. There's certain programs like Erasmus, but they will not make a difference at all if you're looking at significant outlays. Also, bear in mind that I would assume (but do not know for certain) that you'd have to pay full ride even as a UK citizen if you choose to attend the EE English-language four year programs, whereas you'd pay the local rate for the national-language programs. But then you're looking at six years speaking Polish, Czech or Hungarian...

Miklos
03-22-2006, 04:54 AM
Nah, not at all, but always heard good things about it.

Having rotated with students/grads, I feel that its reputation is a bit overblown. Sure, it is a fine school with all kinds of advantages, including langauge and location.

The question is whether it is worth its mindblowing pricetag, which by my estimation makes it one of the most expensive schools (depending on the USD/Euro or CAD/Euro exchange rate) for North Americans.

PathOne
03-22-2006, 07:34 AM
I'd agree that price must certainly be taken into consideration. Also, there's the problem that many, if not most, US students borrow in USD yet have costs in EUR (directly or indirectly). Over four years, the exchange rate between the two currencies can move substantially.

fuzpot
03-22-2006, 07:47 AM
Pathone- what are the chances of a UK graduate getting into RCSI GEP.

I hear that they seem to lean 2wards middle east ppl

PathOne
03-22-2006, 08:24 AM
I'm sorry, but I just don't have that information. I'd highly recommend contacting the school directly and talk to them.

fuzpot
03-22-2006, 09:11 AM
Thanx

yeah i called them- but they are quite tight lipped. Its a competitive- very!, similiar to the all the irish schools and UK schools ( well i guess medical schools worldwide ) are all competitive in terms of numbers applying.

thetrixster
03-22-2006, 09:12 AM
fuzpot,
i have been told that banks such as Natwest and HSBC provide loans to graduates at good rates.
however wether students studying outside UK qualify for this type of loan, i am not quite sure.
HSBC provide a graduate loan of 20-25K, which is only paid back when you have finished your studies.i would suggest you get in touch with them for more info.
to pathone,
how much is the yearly fees likely to be for UK students on the 4yr course? are they still required to pay 40 euro?

fuzpot
03-22-2006, 09:20 AM
trixster- thats very kind of you. thanks . yeah ill get in touch with them. but i have a feeling it wil not be valid for outside the UK. but maybe.

Are you looking at RCSI 4yr.?

Tooooo expensive, if only i was billionaire.

thetrixster
03-22-2006, 09:33 AM
it was one of the first options i looked at, but way too expensive. i think there are a few other irish unis that will follow in the footsteps of rcsi and provide a 4yr GEP from 2007. is taking a year out not an option for you?
i am also thinking of reapplying after completing my first year in Jag, it shud strengthen my application.
at the moment my first choice is Jag in poland,once returning to UK if i have too much trouble obtaining training place then i will look to practice in middle east as my family will be emigrating there in a few years anyway.

wat are your plans?

fuzpot
03-24-2006, 05:58 AM
Does the RCSI admissions have a reputation for taking ages to respond to emails?







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