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    If this is covered in earlier posts I appoligize. Just thought I'd throw this out since I'm trying to get a residency in CA and find some serious obsticles.

    First of all you will need the "CA letter (PTAL)" to start any residency in CA. Also, in order to get this letter you need to have done all your rotations (cores & electives) and graduated.
    http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Applicant_International.pdf

    I'm finding a lot of residencies will not interview you unless you already have the CA letter. So you will have to have graduated by the time you send in your application (around Sept-Dec). If not, no interview and no ranking, thus no matching. Timeline below.

    Applications sent in: Sept-Dec
    Interviews: Oct-Jan
    Turn in ROL (Rank order List): Feb
    Match day: March 16
    1st day of Residency: July 1st

    There are four graduation dates a year through AUC. I believe they are April, June, Aug, Dec. I just happened to be in a class where if we busted our butts to make the match (i.e. take Step1 quickly and go back to back rotations) I would graduate about two months before residencies start, yipee. Unfortunately I'm finding out the info above so I might not get my residency in CA. Fortunately there are some who will interview me, as long as I will have it before the residency starts.

    Hope that helps. If you guys have any questions just email me at [email protected].
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    Hi Doug,

    Nice to hear from you. I hope you, and the family are enjoying Ireland.

    Thanks for the heads-up on California, although it won't be an issue for me . Nice post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtanita
    If this is covered in earlier posts I appoligize. Just thought I'd throw this out since I'm trying to get a residency in CA and find some serious obsticles.

    First of all you will need the "CA letter (PTAL)" to start any residency in CA. Also, in order to get this letter you need to have done all your rotations (cores & electives) and graduated.
    http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Applicant_International.pdf

    I'm finding a lot of residencies will not interview you unless you already have the CA letter. So you will have to have graduated by the time you send in your application (around Sept-Dec). If not, no interview and no ranking, thus no matching. Timeline below.

    Applications sent in: Sept-Dec
    Interviews: Oct-Jan
    Turn in ROL (Rank order List): Feb
    Match day: March 16
    1st day of Residency: July 1st

    There are four graduation dates a year through AUC. I believe they are April, June, Aug, Dec. I just happened to be in a class where if we busted our butts to make the match (i.e. take Step1 quickly and go back to back rotations) I would graduate about two months before residencies start, yipee. Unfortunately I'm finding out the info above so I might not get my residency in CA. Fortunately there are some who will interview me, as long as I will have it before the residency starts.

    Hope that helps. If you guys have any questions just email me at [email protected].
    while I know the websites say that they won't interview you blah blah blah if you don't have the Cali letter, this isn't always true. Lots of students at Kern are getting interviews all around Cali and they haven't even graduated yet. I know some programs WON"T rank you unless u can get them the Cali letter by rank order deadline but some programs still will. (i.e. it's a crapshoot)

    Good luck Dougster.
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    Doug,

    I know that the Cali letter proves to be problematic for many people, however in speaking to people who have gone through the process, it's not impossible. It necessitates that you are on top of EVERYTHING involved (ie background check, letters, rotation forms, etc.).

    Some programs have taken students who have their Cali letter "In Progress" with final acceptance contingient upon said letter's completion.

    Aloha,

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    I have been emailing program directors asking them if they would interview me w/out the CA letter (knowing I would eventually get it in June) and about 70% have said no or that they would be hessitant to rank me. Thant being said I have found some programs that will. This includes Kaiser Permenente.

    As far as having everything in on time, it doesn't matter cause the limiting factor is graduation. For me it's in June, about 3 weeks before I start. Don't get me wrong I'll probably get it in time but what good is it if all my top choices won't even interview me. It's not too bad due to 3 little words.....VIVA LAS VEGAS!

    By the way I'm applying for FP programs.
    Doug Tanita, M.D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtanita
    I have been emailing program directors asking them if they would interview me w/out the CA letter (knowing I would eventually get it in June) and about 70% have said no or that they would be hessitant to rank me. Thant being said I have found some programs that will. This includes Kaiser Permenente.

    As far as having everything in on time, it doesn't matter cause the limiting factor is graduation. For me it's in June, about 3 weeks before I start. Don't get me wrong I'll probably get it in time but what good is it if all my top choices won't even interview me. It's not too bad due to 3 little words.....VIVA LAS VEGAS!

    By the way I'm applying for FP programs.
    FP will get you out in 3 years...small sacrifice to get what you want.

    Aloha,

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    I've heard FP programs aren't as picky about the cali letter
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    Well as you can see about 70% want the CA letter before they will interview you. I'll still send in an app but we'll see if I get an interview.

    Jeff, where are you at?
    Doug Tanita, M.D.
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    i dealt with the CA process this year. PITA

    first, you need to have the letter to get any respect. most won't interview you without it, none will rank you. many want ECFMG cert before interviews or rankings as well.

    the programs that are the most flexible are that way for a reason. they are less than stellar. as i discovered this year, it is far better to get a good program outside of CA than to settle for a crappy one in state.

    CA is popular. the good programs are very tough to get into. the bad ones are even competitive because some people want to come to CA at all costs.

    so, while it would be nice to come back, i would really encourage you to look in other states. stats that will get you a courtesy interview in a crap hole hospital in CA can get you a solid program in a great city in another state. like the beach and warm weather? go to the southeast coast!

    do what you can in CA and check everything out. but, do look elsewhere and have an open mind. i completely surprised myself by bailing out on some CA programs that i thought i wanted up until i actually compared them to other programs!

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    Ok... but....

    Where does the L6 form fit into all of this I've heard rrod and a few others talk about for CA?

    Can someone explain this to me and where I can download said form from a website?

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