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    AUC-beware of the physiology department!

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    My personal experience at AUC (The American University of the Caribbean) was a horrible one! The physiology department is not only run as if it was being taught during WW11, but Dr. B, a physiology professor, spends more time at the local bars by the ocean than he does preparing for lectures. Let me explain-when I mention World War 11, I mean by this, Dr. G, a professor in physiology, teaches and lectures on Nazi experimentation on Jews and other victims. Is there really time for this in a medical curriculum? And more importantly, what is the point? His "doom and gloom" demeanor coupled with his Nazi physiology lectures was enough for me to ask myself, how desperate is AUC in obtaining physiology professors? And heaven forbid one ask Dr.G for a syllabus on the first day of class- you can expect to receive this possibly two weeks later. On the issue of Dr.B, one might want to hold on to ones desk and keep reading my post. First I will ask you, should one not understand the basic principles of physiology in order to have a chance at passing the USMLE, as well as becoming a competent doctor? Of course. So why does Dr. B teach physiology with just pictures? Should one take crayons and color the overpriced "note" pics, as he fumbles for his lecture pics, which are not on a PowerPoint presentation but on flimsy single-sheet overheads? Of course one should not! Note to Dr.B, embrace technology and learn PowerPoint, and spend a little more time preparing for lectures and less time at the local bars! One may ask why I would post this type of message...hmmm...just say I got smart and am studying medicine elsewhere where I know the hiring of professors like Dr.B and G would not be tolerated. And to advise any potential medical student to research and ask about professors on sites like this before applying to a foreign medical school. By the way, thanks for reading my post and more to come from my experiences at AUC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Howard
    My personal experience at AUC (The American University of the Caribbean) was a horrible one! The physiology department is not only run as if it was being taught during WW11, but Dr. B, a physiology professor, spends more time at the local bars by the ocean than he does preparing for lectures. Let me explain-when I mention World War 11, I mean by this, Dr. G, a professor in physiology, teaches and lectures on Nazi experimentation on Jews and other victims. Is there really time for this in a medical curriculum? And more importantly, what is the point? His "doom and gloom" demeanor coupled with his Nazi physiology lectures was enough for me to ask myself, how desperate is AUC in obtaining physiology professors? And heaven forbid one ask Dr.G for a syllabus on the first day of class- you can expect to receive this possibly two weeks later. On the issue of Dr.B, one might want to hold on to ones desk and keep reading my post. First I will ask you, should one not understand the basic principles of physiology in order to have a chance at passing the USMLE, as well as becoming a competent doctor? Of course. So why does Dr. B teach physiology with just pictures? Should one take crayons and color the overpriced "note" pics, as he fumbles for his lecture pics, which are not on a PowerPoint presentation but on flimsy single-sheet overheads? Of course one should not! Note to Dr.B, embrace technology and learn PowerPoint, and spend a little more time preparing for lectures and less time at the local bars! One may ask why I would post this type of message...hmmm...just say I got smart and am studying medicine elsewhere where I know the hiring of professors like Dr.B and G would not be tolerated. And to advise any potential medical student to research and ask about professors on sites like this before applying to a foreign medical school. By the way, thanks for reading my post and more to come from my experiences at AUC.
    make sure you read all the comments about dr b from people who have already taken step 1.....he's so on target you'll think he wrote the questions. I did not have 1 single physiology question on my step that did not have one of his pictures or graphs with it. everyone complains about dr. g.....generally the people who complain about dr. b arethe ones who cant pass his exams. he is not that hard of a professor and all those charts and graphs came back during internal medicine and now when i prepare for step 2. I didnt like dr b at first either bc of his testing style but once i learned it i did fine in the class and physiology was one of my highest scores on step 1.....and i never took another phys class. Also, we had an anatomy professor who is probably one of the most world renowned anatomy profs and he didnt use powerpoint either. I dont know why people are so into powerpoint.....just wait until clinicals if you expect to be spoonfed.....you'll get buried
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    unfortunately, yes they can improve physio class and cut off all the abscure facts and theroy such as nazi experiemensts and elephants of safari tests and make them to more step 1 pertinent especially Dr G. . But will they do it? no. Then whats the answer for your frustration..it would be adaptation on your part as all of us did in the past.

    When it comse to USMLE, physio is critical part to put all the different topics in one picture. And I think DR B And G both have taught good chunck of them to cover for those rather broad topics despite their flaw in teaching methods and styles. Singal transductions and endorine as well as GI physio are important trios plus heart and Liver function in addition to respiratory. Use BRS physio book, which has been proven gold mine for step 1 physio if you have time or to just quick reference. And for DR G.s class, pay attention to his lectures and take good notes on his "empty looking" notes. And dont forget to record the voice lecture to reveiw later. And use the available physio notes that have been circulating for years among the students.

    Yes. its difficult course to deal with as evident by rather too many failures from these classes. I think the reason for that is not because the topic is diffcult to understand but rather lack of soild organization on the professors part plus the student's own discipline problem or their imature approche to this class which is far from an undergrad class. However...the stuffs that they present in the class are indeed tested in the step 1.

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    "So why does Dr. B teach physiology with just pictures?"
    could it possibly be because that is the way questions are asked?hmmmmm i used to hate the class and would wine and beach just like you until i took the test...

    they both have styles to get used to thats it....face it they are PhD's teaching and have alot of research experience and one of the things we have to deal with as med students is hearing about their research. i actually liked the offshoots of dr g, too long most of the time but interesting and if most people weren't the typical egocentrical american you guys would see how some of his doom and gloom scenarios are quite plausible just look at his background...its frightening that there are even poeople in his position that the army consults with and even more freightening are the things they consult about.

    i enjoyed talking to dr g but did not like his teaching style so just like in countless classes in undergard where your learning mode and the profs teaching style don't match up....figure out a way to learn it.

    my guess is that someone failed an exam? i dumped the first one too and had about as much anger....channel that anger and it will serve you well in learning phys...
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    What are you talking about?

    Dr B is one of the best teachers I had in second semester. He uses the graphs to show that what he is saying is true and it has been tested and proven. He teaches in concepts rather than memorization. I think that is the key to Dr. B you can't sit there and memorize stuff b/c there are no stupid give me questions on his tests. Rather if you understand a concept you will do well.

    I made it a point to attend his lectures because I got so much out of it because rather that scrambling through the notes every time he put up a slide we didn't have I paid attention. I know this works because all my friends did the something while we were in class. Everything he says in class is on the money and clear and logical. He has office hours everyday and they used to be packed. Additionally, using scribes did help a lot because they were word for word what he was teaching in class. So if you did miss anything it would be in the scribes.

    Dr.G WWII bomb lectures, we only had two full lecs, were not that useful. However, I found that he put a different spin on things and made you think about how we really know all this physiology. How cold does the body need to get before the heart stops beating? Questions like that really intrigued me while I was sitting in his class. The Nazi's actually did experiments on the Jews putting them into extreme conditions and they measured the temp at which the heart stopped. These are awesome correlations that you wouldn't get any where else.

    Most of our patients are going to be older and possible war veterans, knowledge like this could be a easy way to relate to the hard times they went through.

    My point is all teachers have varied teaching styles. We have teachers that have a stack of notes and ask you on their tests what was something on page 7, 3rd paragraph. If you can spit it out you get the point, if not you lose. Then there are the concept teachers Br B, Br G, You never need to touch a book if you just listen and follow what they are trying to teach in class. Listen and understand to concept and you will hit up every question on their tests (almost). The later requires less energy and time because itís all concept, rather than mass memorization.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Howard
    My personal experience at AUC (The American University of the Caribbean) was a horrible one! The physiology department is not only run as if it was being taught during WW11, but Dr. B, a physiology professor, spends more time at the local bars by the ocean than he does preparing for lectures. Let me explain-when I mention World War 11, I mean by this, Dr. G, a professor in physiology, teaches and lectures on Nazi experimentation on Jews and other victims. Is there really time for this in a medical curriculum? And more importantly, what is the point? His "doom and gloom" demeanor coupled with his Nazi physiology lectures was enough for me to ask myself, how desperate is AUC in obtaining physiology professors? And heaven forbid one ask Dr.G for a syllabus on the first day of class- you can expect to receive this possibly two weeks later. On the issue of Dr.B, one might want to hold on to ones desk and keep reading my post. First I will ask you, should one not understand the basic principles of physiology in order to have a chance at passing the USMLE, as well as becoming a competent doctor? Of course. So why does Dr. B teach physiology with just pictures? Should one take crayons and color the overpriced "note" pics, as he fumbles for his lecture pics, which are not on a PowerPoint presentation but on flimsy single-sheet overheads? Of course one should not! Note to Dr.B, embrace technology and learn PowerPoint, and spend a little more time preparing for lectures and less time at the local bars! One may ask why I would post this type of message...hmmm...just say I got smart and am studying medicine elsewhere where I know the hiring of professors like Dr.B and G would not be tolerated. And to advise any potential medical student to research and ask about professors on sites like this before applying to a foreign medical school. By the way, thanks for reading my post and more to come from my experiences at AUC.
    let me guess you failed physio----ah lets cry about it in public why dont we---

    grow up and transfer already!

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    You know, I did ask Dr. B about his notes once. When he was interim Dean, we were trying to figure out whether I should take a short leave of absense or just leave for the entire semester, and the lectures I would be missing would be his. So I told him if he made more complete notes, I'd feel more comfortable with a short term absense. He replied that he made his notes so abbreviated to make students come to class and pay attention. Truth be told though, Dr. B's lecturing and testing style prepares you for Dr. L in Path I, so learn to pay attention and take good notes!

    Dr. G? I like Dr. G. His little tangent offshoots are a good breath of fresh air. Especially for Physio II which they made right after lunch, and for some reason the AC shuts down so not only are you tired, but going into a food coma, and hot. So his stories help wake me up and pay attention. But also a lot of his stories do have something to do with physio. Such as I was discussing Israel vs. the Middle East, and I brought up the issue of LPS and lifestyle in wounded soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssyrianSkipper
    let me guess you failed physio----ah lets cry about it in public why dont we---

    grow up and transfer already!

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    Did you read his post? He already "transferred."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stateofequilibrium
    Did you read his post? He already "transferred."
    i guess thru the haze of ** he lost me---

    let me bet he transfered to SMU---

    SBTURNER will claim the best only transfer!---lololo

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    the ones that dont sit there and read power point slides to u verbatim for two hours are usually some of the best profs.. .. anyone can get in front of a class and read off a screen word for word.. its a strength to be able to lecture on the fly off of "pics"... of course.. then ud have to pay attention in class.. :O

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