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    AUC florida core clinical info.......

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    i cant believe that i had the info for such a long time. im not starting a rumor. my father is an AUC grad from 1986 and started in 1982. I also have a cousin that graduated in 1985 nd started in 1981.

    about this florida thing. i was talking to my father about the potential for full florida cores to be opened. he said that he felt that i was holding my breath for nothing that it would never happen. i said "why?" i was shocked that i didnt know already from him.

    apparently when AUC opened they were one of the first ones around and they tried to shoe in their grads into florida for cores. the state of florida didnt like this because their office was in miami and they felt that they were trying to make a back door into florida. AUC had a court battle with florida about their office being in florida and the potenetial for cores in florida. the case ended with AUC signing a consent decree that they will never have full core clinicals in florida but they keep their office here and their grads are eligible for electives.

    i went ahead and called my cousing to ask her about it as well. she answered me with "you didnt know?"

    im now angry with MEIO for basically not admitting about florida and giving the same old "we are working on it".

    but in the end there is no reason to be angry. ive come to terms to just get through the cores wherever im at. the outcome will still be the same.

    just thought it was important to let the rest of you all to not hold your breath on florida.

    take care..................... and back to studying genetics.
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    Re: AUC florida core clinical info.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott1981
    i cant believe that i had the info for such a long time. im not starting a rumor. my father is an AUC grad from 1986 and started in 1982. I also have a cousin that graduated in 1985 nd started in 1981.

    about this florida thing. i was talking to my father about the potential for full florida cores to be opened. he said that he felt that i was holding my breath for nothing that it would never happen. i said "why?" i was shocked that i didnt know already from him.

    apparently when AUC opened they were one of the first ones around and they tried to shoe in their grads into florida for cores. the state of florida didnt like this because their office was in miami and they felt that they were trying to make a back door into florida. AUC had a court battle with florida about their office being in florida and the potenetial for cores in florida. the case ended with AUC signing a consent decree that they will never have full core clinicals in florida but they keep their office here and their grads are eligible for electives.

    i went ahead and called my cousing to ask her about it as well. she answered me with "you didnt know?"

    im now angry with MEIO for basically not admitting about florida and giving the same old "we are working on it".

    but in the end there is no reason to be angry. ive come to terms to just get through the cores wherever im at. the outcome will still be the same.

    just thought it was important to let the rest of you all to not hold your breath on florida.

    take care..................... and back to studying genetics.
    that sucks...i was hoping that they would have full cores in florida...so near to home and warmth of good old florida....man this really sucks...i was thinking it would happen by the time i get to rotations....

    this sucks...

    but this doesnt effect licensing.....i know i emailed the state before coming to AUC and they said i shouldnt have a problem....

    oh well i just have to do rotations in the cold of the midwest....the place moved from to sunny nice florida....

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    ??

    If this was a problem, then why not move MEIO to another state? What is so special about Fl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdecastro
    If this was a problem, then why not move MEIO to another state? What is so special about Fl?
    all good questions
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    rumor?

    so how do you know this isn't a lefty over rumor from your dad's class? like you are forced to do rotations in england or no one passes step one?

    i don't doubt it could be but why don't the other big schools have many florida rotations?

    what is more likely, a hard fought lenghty court battle with a secret contract not to do cores in the state just to have an office there that could be easily moved? or the fact that there are so many med schools per population in florida that the rotation sites are always saturated?

    i'l hold off until a court docket is linked. but yes it still sucks that there are no florida cores, i hate snow.
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    apparently the battle was going on in the early 80's during the my father and cousin's enrollment. im gonna look for some court docs online. as far as florida is concerned, i acted like i was a new student for AUA and was curious what hospitals they have cores in because they are such a new school.


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    Question:
    i know you have affiliated hospitals in the states that students
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    cores in. what hospitals are you affiliated with that students do these
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    now about the florida saturation thing. that is a load off poo poo and the florida legislature has been using that same excuse for the past decade. the only reason the legislature opened a new FSU school was because half the legislature are seminoles and wanted to compete with the gators.

    common sense would have been to put the school in a major metro area like orlando at ucf. but they chose tallahasse. that place is so rural that the lcme rejected them at first until fsucom promised to send their clinical students to orlando and pensacola to do clinicals.

    now ucf and fiu want to build medical schools and the legislature are using that same excuse about saturation. but yet these offshore start up schools can waltz right in.

    as of now florida has 4 allopathic schools and 2 osteopathic schools
    that is a total of 6 schools for the fourth largest state in the union.

    floridas population is comparible to NY. NY has 12 allopathic schools and 2 osteopathic schools for a total of 14 schools!!!!! plus they so many off shore schools doing training there as well. no saturation problem there.

    lets go through other states..... PA has six allo and at least 1 osteo

    my god.... north carolina, missouri has the same amount of allos as florida

    illinois has 7 allopathics and who knows how many osteopathics.


    my point is that all of the above states, besides ny, are smaller states than florida. they dont seem to have a saturation problem. that excuse that the florida legislature uses as well as MEIO does not hold.

    florida only has 6 total med schools. plus start up offshores do cores there. something is smelling fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott1981
    now about the florida saturation thing. that is a load off poo poo and the florida legislature has been using that same excuse for the past decade. the only reason the legislature opened a new FSU school was because half the legislature are seminoles and wanted to compete with the gators.

    common sense would have been to put the school in a major metro area like orlando at ucf. but they chose tallahasse. that place is so rural that the lcme rejected them at first until fsucom promised to send their clinical students to orlando and pensacola to do clinicals.

    now ucf and fiu want to build medical schools and the legislature are using that same excuse about saturation. but yet these offshore start up schools can waltz right in.

    as of now florida has 4 allopathic schools and 2 osteopathic schools
    that is a total of 6 schools for the fourth largest state in the union.

    floridas population is comparible to NY. NY has 12 allopathic schools and 2 osteopathic schools for a total of 14 schools!!!!! plus they so many off shore schools doing training there as well. no saturation problem there.

    lets go through other states..... PA has six allo and at least 1 osteo

    my god.... north carolina, missouri has the same amount of allos as florida

    illinois has 7 allopathics and who knows how many osteopathics.


    my point is that all of the above states, besides ny, are smaller states than florida. they dont seem to have a saturation problem. that excuse that the florida legislature uses as well as MEIO does not hold.

    florida only has 6 total med schools. plus start up offshores do cores there. something is smelling fishy.
    boohoo. cry me a river. Univ of Washington has ONE med school... FOR 5 STATES!!! (Washington, Alaska, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming). There are no other med schools in those states.. and they all apply as in-state residents for 150 1st year slots.



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    2000 census facts
    washington 5.8 million people
    alaska 0.62
    idaho 1.2
    montana 0.9
    wyoming 0.49
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    grand total 9.01 million people

    sounds really big when you got 5 states........ but only about half the size of florida

    yes, they are due for more medical schools. however, i dont know their politics up in the northwest. i do know what has been going on in florida. and i do know that florida uses the saturation excuse too much when it doesnt stand. and that same lame excuse comes up when auc mentions cores there.

    the whole point of my previous posts was to show that florida isnt saturated for clinical spots and more proof is that they take "other" offshore med schools for cores.

    so yes ill cry you a stream.

    if you want me to cry you a river..... the nile for that matter...... ask me how the genetics test went today.
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    stupid pop machine..

    Worry about something else.. like how the pop machine never works.
    When I first got here, I wondered by there was a whole smashed in the front of that pop machine.. now I know...

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