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    Hey All,

    Wanted to ask some of you for some advice and how to move forward since I feel like most of you would have an idea or may have been in a similar situation. I am starting a masters program in the fall in Health Science that is geared to be a gateway into a PharmD next September. However as I rattle my brain on if it is what I really want to do I keep coming back to feeling that my heart is really in medicine versus pharmacy. I have not taken the MCAT and don't have the best grades (not the worst either from what I have read). I have an engineering degree from a top engineering program and some post baccalaureate course work and have a GPA of about a 2.85. I have worked in a pharmacy for the last 2 years and as I said seem to be on track for a PharmD if I stick with the current program.

    I guess what I want to know is how should I move forward with this? I am going to try to shadow a physician in the fall to see if I really do want to pursue medicine and I doubt I have the credentials for a US program but I think I can stand a chance at a Caribbean Med School and am looking into SGU and AUC. I know my grades are a barrier but will this masters help if I want to go to medicine versus the PharmD? The coursework pretty much mimics the first semester of medical school (biochem for medicine, histology, med chem, physiology, pharmacology) with a few business and policy courses added in. I know I need to take the MCAT if I want to go into medicine. Also given the competitiveness of getting a residency and my lackluster grades, will getting the MD vs. PharmD come back to haunt me in 4 years? A lot of you are in school now, what would your advice to me be?

    Thanks for all your advice, I appreciate it!!

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    This is my opinion. In hindsight, If I didn't start medical school at AUC basically right after undergrad, I would never take this route again. The stresses just would not nearly outweigh the benefits. And this may not be exactly your scenario. But if I were in a position where I was earning a decent income (I imagine a pharmD is easily 6 figures), had a family, a home, a job I enjoyed, I would not give it up to start all over at the beginning of the MD pathway, especially all the way back at MCAT.

    The torture is only beginning with MCAT, then personal statements, interviews, moving for med school (likely out of the country), studying for exams, Step 1, hoping to get the rotations you want, moving around the country when you finally do get rotations, Step 2, getting letters of recommendation, another personal statement, flying around for residency interviews, waiting for the match, possibly being disappointed in the result, step 3, moving to a new place and starting a residency you may not like, possibly moving somewhere else for another residency, overnights, paperwork, dealing with a broken medical system, difficult patients, stubborn attendings, relentless surveys and evaluations, possibly fellowship applications, interviews and match, state licensure (possibly in multiple states), board certification, doing your fellowship, specialty board certifications, interviewing for a job, negotiating a contract, dealing with malpractice . . . . and this does not even include the infinite difficulties involved with being in practice.

    It also did not include the COSTS. Tuition and loans, room and board, moving expenses, paying for step 1,2,3, paying for applications, and travel for interviews, paying for board certification, paying for state licensure, specialty certifications . . . and on and on and on.

    All the while, if you have a family, you will lose valuable time with them. It will be impossible to own a home. And the most likely scenario (though obviously lots of exceptions) is that you will end up in a primary care field (family practice, pediatrics, psychiatry, internal medicine) and earn not much more than a Pharm D in the end.

    So basically if my pathway were any other but the one I took (basically straight from undergrad, to med school, to residency, to fellowship) it would not have been worthwhile.

    Just my opinion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Icemanx0502 View Post
    Hey All,

    Wanted to ask some of you for some advice and how to move forward since I feel like most of you would have an idea or may have been in a similar situation. I am starting a masters program in the fall in Health Science that is geared to be a gateway into a PharmD next September. However as I rattle my brain on if it is what I really want to do I keep coming back to feeling that my heart is really in medicine versus pharmacy. I have not taken the MCAT and don't have the best grades (not the worst either from what I have read). I have an engineering degree from a top engineering program and some post baccalaureate course work and have a GPA of about a 2.85. I have worked in a pharmacy for the last 2 years and as I said seem to be on track for a PharmD if I stick with the current program.

    I guess what I want to know is how should I move forward with this? I am going to try to shadow a physician in the fall to see if I really do want to pursue medicine and I doubt I have the credentials for a US program but I think I can stand a chance at a Caribbean Med School and am looking into SGU and AUC. I know my grades are a barrier but will this masters help if I want to go to medicine versus the PharmD? The coursework pretty much mimics the first semester of medical school (biochem for medicine, histology, med chem, physiology, pharmacology) with a few business and policy courses added in. I know I need to take the MCAT if I want to go into medicine. Also given the competitiveness of getting a residency and my lackluster grades, will getting the MD vs. PharmD come back to haunt me in 4 years? A lot of you are in school now, what would your advice to me be?

    Thanks for all your advice, I appreciate it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianB4837 View Post
    This is my opinion. In hindsight, If I didn't start medical school at AUC basically right after undergrad, I would never take this route again. The stresses just would not nearly outweigh the benefits. And this may not be exactly your scenario. But if I were in a position where I was earning a decent income (I imagine a pharmD is easily 6 figures), had a family, a home, a job I enjoyed, I would not give it up to start all over at the beginning of the MD pathway, especially all the way back at MCAT.

    The torture is only beginning with MCAT, then personal statements, interviews, moving for med school (likely out of the country), studying for exams, Step 1, hoping to get the rotations you want, moving around the country when you finally do get rotations, Step 2, getting letters of recommendation, another personal statement, flying around for residency interviews, waiting for the match, possibly being disappointed in the result, step 3, moving to a new place and starting a residency you may not like, possibly moving somewhere else for another residency, overnights, paperwork, dealing with a broken medical system, difficult patients, stubborn attendings, relentless surveys and evaluations, possibly fellowship applications, interviews and match, state licensure (possibly in multiple states), board certification, doing your fellowship, specialty board certifications, interviewing for a job, negotiating a contract, dealing with malpractice . . . . and this does not even include the infinite difficulties involved with being in practice.

    It also did not include the COSTS. Tuition and loans, room and board, moving expenses, paying for step 1,2,3, paying for applications, and travel for interviews, paying for board certification, paying for state licensure, specialty certifications . . . and on and on and on.

    All the while, if you have a family, you will lose valuable time with them. It will be impossible to own a home. And the most likely scenario (though obviously lots of exceptions) is that you will end up in a primary care field (family practice, pediatrics, psychiatry, internal medicine) and earn not much more than a Pharm D in the end.

    So basically if my pathway were any other but the one I took (basically straight from undergrad, to med school, to residency, to fellowship) it would not have been worthwhile.

    Just my opinion.

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