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    AUC, Ross, or Saba?

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    Hi ValueMD,

    I was interviewed and accepted to 3 schools (AUC, Ross, Saba) and I have been debating lately, which one these schools would give me a higher chance for becoming a physician in the NYC area (thats where I live). I would also one day would like to practice abroad. Would countries like Holland, UK, Spain or Australia recognize a degree from AUC, after completing residency in the US? As I understand, with Ross and AUC I have the chance to do all my rotations in NYC or Connecticut, does this serve as advantage when applying for residency (Im thinking about networking with program directors in the northeast)? Ive done as much research as I can, but maybe AUC students here can give me an insiders view of their school. Thanks and Happy Halloween!

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    I'm in the same boat, debating between Ross and AUC. Personally, I am kind of alarmed by the high attrition rate at both schools. I attended an AUC event in which the Dean of Medicine stated point blank that AUC has an attrition rate of about 18-20%. This rate seems to be better than Ross (which is closer to 30%), but both are still much higher than US schools. And yet AUC goes out of their way to say how much the students and faculty help each other and want people to succeed. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and really believe them. But the pragmatist in me just has a hard time believing that almost 1 in 5 people accepted to AUC don't make it simply because they didn't study enough. It seems like there has to be more to it than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronathan View Post
    I'm in the same boat, debating between Ross and AUC. Personally, I am kind of alarmed by the high attrition rate at both schools. I attended an AUC event in which the Dean of Medicine stated point blank that AUC has an attrition rate of about 18-20%. This rate seems to be better than Ross (which is closer to 30%), but both are still much higher than US schools. And yet AUC goes out of their way to say how much the students and faculty help each other and want people to succeed. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and really believe them. But the pragmatist in me just has a hard time believing that almost 1 in 5 people accepted to AUC don't make it simply because they didn't study enough. It seems like there has to be more to it than that.
    bottom line, you cannot expect attrition to be the same as stateside schools. stateside schools consistently have incoming classes with an average MCAT greater than 30 with GPA's greater than 3.6. compare that to the entering classes of AUC, ROSS, SGU, and SABA......even though these schools are considered the top of the caribbean..... their class demographics are considerably less strong compared to stateside schools. its quite likely that the 18-20% of people who were part of the AUC attrition rate would have flunked out of a stateside school too. its just that the stateside school held onto their application as long as it took to move it to the trash been. it is what it is. im not saying that this holds true for every single case....... but it holds true on enough of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronathan View Post
    I'm in the same boat, debating between Ross and AUC. Personally, I am kind of alarmed by the high attrition rate at both schools. I attended an AUC event in which the Dean of Medicine stated point blank that AUC has an attrition rate of about 18-20%. This rate seems to be better than Ross (which is closer to 30%), but both are still much higher than US schools. And yet AUC goes out of their way to say how much the students and faculty help each other and want people to succeed. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and really believe them. But the pragmatist in me just has a hard time believing that almost 1 in 5 people accepted to AUC don't make it simply because they didn't study enough. It seems like there has to be more to it than that.
    The attrition rate is right. I estimate it from my class: http://www.valuemd.com/american-univ...9-auc-rip.html
    The faculty is really there for us. I ask a lot of questions. Yes it’s true that the faculty is there for you.
    We as student help each other. Of course you can’t be friend of everyone but yes we help each other.
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    Why do people drop out… here is an idea of what happens.

    Over 7 people that I KNOW who drop out, I would say ..1... drop in the middle of the first semester because he did not do well in the first 2 blocks. …2… left after the 1st semester because they failed 1 or more classes and they did not want to continue in the program. Consequently, most of the attrition is in or after the first semester.

    …2… students failed 1 or 2 classes and advanced partially to 2nd semester. They fail 1 or 2 classes again and they reach the maximum credit (you can fail 18credits). They had to leave after the 2nd semester.

    Some people are good enough but they party, do not study constantly or study at the last minute. They fail but at a slower rate. They are the one who could go on for 3 or 4 semesters and fail the maximum credits after 3 or 4 semesters. …2.. people had to quit after the 3rd semester because they fail 1 class twice.
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    Once you start medical school, you should look ahead and you should fight like there is no tomorrow. If you give it all and you’re still failing, that tells you that medicine is may be not for you. If you can realize that after 1 semester, you will save a lot of money.
    Last edited by Untel; 11-01-2013 at 06:15 PM.

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    I just applied to SABA! I find it to be same education, less tuition but higher attritiation rate.

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