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    How to Succeed at AUC

    Well tonight I am feeling generous. Since I've been through all of medical school (at AUC) and residency, I will pass along my pearls of wisdom or mindless ramping whichever you choose to call them after reading them.

    #1 - Get Ready for a Change.

    If you are the typical AUC student then you have applied to US schools or schools from your home country and were not successful in gaining admittance. Congrats you were rejected. Feels horrible doesn't it?! Yeah I went through it too. Don't despair as you were accepted into AUC and now were given a 2nd chance. Don't blow this one. Medical school basic sciences is TOUGH, it was at the time the toughest thing I had ever done, PERIOD. Like most caribbean students when you applied to a US school either your grades were not good enough and/or your MCAT wasn't good enough. Both of which is usually due to Not Studying Enough / Preparing for class and/or MCAT. If you want to succeed, you-will-need-to-CHANGE.


    #2 - How to Change

    Great you've agreed to buckle down and really study this time huh? Well considering your study habits kept you from having better grades or doing better on the MCAT, better re-learn how to study and learn quick. When they use the analogy of medical school is like drinking from a fire hydrant, its soooo accurate. The material is NOT difficult to understand at all, its the sheer VOLUME of material you must learn.

    Let me stop there. Remember I said "LEARN", NOT memorize which is two different things.

    When you learn something you understand it, you can manipulate the information. That is what being a doctor is about, applying what you learn. Don't get me wrong, you will memorize a lot of useless info and mostly important info. But here is the key that will help you make it out a star and rock your boards. When you understand a topic you are much more likely to remember it, than memorizing tables or definitions which you will forget after the exam.

    In order to learn how to study and Learn Material instead of memorizing it, you have to understand a bit about the brain. Its like any other organ in our body, especially the muscles. When we overtax our muscles from working out they hurt and the more you exert them the more they will protest and hurt. If you overdo it, you will be less likely to exercise them again for fear of pain. The brain works similarly in that if you use your brain more than usual it will get tired and resist changing its structure to accommodate all this new information you are trying to learn. Like any muscle you have to exercise it consistently without fatiguing it and it will grow stronger. (i.e. your memory and problem solving skills will improve with practice.

    #3 - Reading Material is DIFFERENT than Recalling Information

    Studying notes from class is NOT reading them over and over and over again. If you want to see an example, read any page in a novel over and over for 10x. Think you know it well? Put the book down and in 1 hour write out what you remember from memory and try to copy it down on a blank sheet of paper word for word. I'm sure you didn't' do this, but you get my point. Its difficult to remember all the details and copy it. But how many times have you recited quotes from favorite movies word for word and could someone which move that is from, what was happening in the movie when the quote was said and now remember other funny quotes about the movie,etc. Your goal when studying material is to find ways to remember the material by making it interesting and useful to you in chunks and bits at a time.

    Different people study different ways, but I think that using this method will help anyone improve their memory and your going to need lots of it.


    #4 - Efficient Studying

    Now to the meat, how do you study for medical school? Well to each their own, but here is what I did and it worked great for me. Keep in mind that each day you will have new material from each class you have. On average this is 3-5 classes a day. You must also keep up on the previous material and incorporate the new material each day and be ready for your exam after a few weeks of material is given. Your looking at 3-5 weeks of lectures, 5 days a week x 3-5 classes. At worst your looking at around 125 days of lecture between exams. You must be able to understand all that material and apply it on exams, not just regurgitate terms on a test. Very few classes in medical school rely on strict memorization besides Anatomy.

    Each day Mon - Fri after attending each class I would take notes on what was covered in class to clarify later. Then when getting home around 3-5pm I would rest for 1 hour and then start studying. I would recopy the days notes into an Excel Spreadsheet in a question and answer format. I would use each slide for the lecture and make a question and then beside the question place an answer. I would have to be creative and make as few questions as possible to cover the lecture material. After finishing with that days lecture notes, I would review 2-3 of the previous days lecture notes by asking myself some of the questions I created for those lectures.

    I would repeat this for every class and would have extensive banks of questions and answers covering every lecture for every class. The 2-3 days before exam I would increase my review to include more lecture review questions and on the day before review all my questions. If I had an answer memorized for a question, skip it as you know it. You need to spend your time trying to recall the answers for the questions you stumble most on. Don't' study what you know, study what you don't know.

    #5 - Weekends are YOUR TIME

    Study hard Mon-Fri and take Sat and Sunday OFF. Go to the beach, relax at home and recuperate. I couldn't totally relax, and would at least review 1-2 lectures from each class in the evening, but wouldn't use my whole day up. This way you don't miss out on the island and what it has to offer. CAUTION: Don't over do it, but don't deprive yourself either. Usually before tests I would study more on weekends, but still the majority of my times was relaxing.


    # 6 - Do USMLE Questions OFTEN

    The professors try to taylor their exams to mimic the USMLE exam questions often. This is not a guarantee, but is often the case. By studying USMLE questions on the topic your learning about in class, you can reinforce it and solidify it better.

    Also this prepares you for the USMLE style questions early on. Then when 5th Semester comes around you have seen sooo many usmle questions you will start seeing repeat questions, yeah!! This will prepare you best for the USMLE Step 1 and the comprehensive final. There will be times when you will see similar questions on the exam that you may have seen on a USMLE qbook and get some extra points out of it. When I was there the Library had a set of binders called Bio-Test that had hundreds of multiple choice questions on different topics and are a great study aide.

    #7 - People will Decelerate and/or drop out.

    This may be you, I hope not though. You will develop a group of friends and learn together, but chances are some of them will drop out or decelerate and you will loose touch with them. Its a fact of life, get used to it and DON'T LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU.

    #8 - Do WELL ON STEP 1

    Do questions, questions, questions. USMLE World, Kaplan Q-bank, Q-books, etc. This will be your best gauge as how well you know the material. If you miss a question, review the material on why you missed it then move on. Don't re-study questions you got right its a waste of time. Do so many questions you start seeing repeats, repeats, repeats and your average improves. Then set a date and take the exam.

    #9 - Clinical's

    If you make it off the island and do well on your USMLE Step 1, congrats. Clinicals is down hill from here. 90% of them are showing up and doing what your asked. You will study some and learn, but it will not be as bad as basic sciences. Though, don't totally give up in clinicals as its important you do well and get good evaluations. You should NEVER fail a clinical rotation for any reason, this looks BAD for residencies. If your having family problems, medical, etc then seek HELP EARLY or get accommodations from the rotation or school and if you must ask to withdrawal or postpone your rotation. Some rotations if you withdrawal you could fail them, so best to just NOT FAIL them. Remember 90% is showing up and doing what your told and learn when you can.

    Some rotations are hard, some are easy. Most are ok. You will have to do skut work, get used to it as a medical student. You will have to get up earlier than everyone else for some rotations and work harder then the residents for some. This is the exception, not the rule. Most are fine.

    #10 - Residency

    Less than 50% of IMG's (International Medical Graduates) will match into a residency program. Its the norm now, and considering US medical schools are increasing their class sizes and there are min to no increase in overall residency spots. Expect this rate to decrease more as time goes on.

    Let that sink in.

    Out of all the US IMG's that submit a rank list for their preferred programs for residency, about 49% in 2012 matched to a program. These are people who made it off the island and through basic sciences and clinicals and passed all their board exams. Then only 1/2 of them actually get a spot in the match.

    This doesn't include the people who take positions outside of the match, but I am not sure how that would influence the numbers. Still its a stark wake up call to IMG's. This means you could potentially waiting an entire year working whatever you can waiting for next years match cycle. And those student loans don't stop being due because you didn't get a position in a residency, have fun making those payments.

    #11 - Final Thoughts

    This is a path not for the light hearted, it is a long road that has many bumps and in the end you are still competing for residencies with US Students. You will have to work HARDER than US Students, LONGER than US Students and accept LESS CHANCE of getting a residency for all your trouble and almost double the tuition cost and repayment. Its not fair, but the way it is.

    Think long and hard before making the jump, thats a lot of STUDENT LOANS that WILL BE REPAYED if you graduate or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestDoctorEver View Post
    If the match rate is even 75%+, I think is something to cork about...I was under the impression the match rate for AUC was <50% because of so much bashing of caribbean medical schools. I definitely will try AUC since I am only interested in FM and IM. I hope these info are accurate because my life depend on them... I am sending my application next week for May 2013 semester.
    I am thinking about attending in September of next year, but it would be nice to hear from current students/residents as to what they think about these numbers and how much it will change by the time we graduate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan23 View Post
    I am thinking about attending in September of next year, but it would be nice to hear from current students/residents as to what they think about these numbers and how much it will change by the time we graduate...
    Get it from the source. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2012.pdf
    US IMG's had a 49.1% Match rate 2012. See page 1 for that stat and realize it will always be tough for IMG's and if the number of positions don't increase much and applicants keep increasing more, you can do the math.
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    Any idea what the match rate is for AUC?

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    That stat may be reported to AUC from the NRMP, but I don't know if its available. You can email the school and ask them. If its not reported its up to AUC grads to self report match success or failure. More people would be willing to report success than failure in my opinion. If the stat for AUC match rate is based on self report, than its likely lower than reported.
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    First off, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed their advice to this thread. It really is very nice and appreciated that you would take your time and experience to make sure that the students coming after you benefit from the wisdom you gained through your mistakes and equally, your accomplishments.

    I do have a question, but this isn't specific to AUC, but rather to all medical schools, at least I think. I apologize if it is a redundant question.

    I've watched Youtube videos and read blogs on how to study in medical school. Through all sources, I found that successful time management is crucial to success in medical school. I also discovered that reviewing lecture notes and mastering them is the most important, in order to pass exams and remain in good standing at your university. I've also found a lot of medical students use review books, like the BRS series, to solidify their understanding of review notes during exam prep.

    Are AUC class notes/lecture slides sufficient for the exams? Of course, I do not plan on neglecting review books, and I do understand their value for preparing for Step 1. I just want to know if they are necessary to pass the exams? Also, what other resources do professors recommend, and do students find them useful? I guess I would just appreciate more insight on lecture material, review books, and how to use them during precious study time.


    With regards to pre-studying: First off, if you are qualified enough to study without medical school, why are you going to medical school? I do not start classes until January. In the meantime, instead of psychotically "pre-studying" (which, by the way, I never considered and refuse to consider) I am using this time to discover what type of student I want to become, perhaps testing different schedules, working, and spending time with friends and family. I am also reading a lot of the blogs about St. Maarten which I find fascinating and trying to enter completely well informed so my studies don't suffer. I think a lot of people who read these forums are doing the same thing as well.

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    First off, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed their advice to this thread. It really is very nice and appreciated that you would take your time and experience to make sure that the students coming after you benefit from the wisdom you gained through your mistakes and equally, your accomplishments.

    I do have a question, but this isn't specific to AUC, but rather to all medical schools, at least I think. I apologize if it is a redundant question.

    I've watched Youtube videos and read blogs on how to study in medical school. Through all sources, I found that successful time management is crucial to success in medical school. I also discovered that reviewing lecture notes and mastering them is the most important, in order to pass exams and remain in good standing at your university. I've also found a lot of medical students use review books, like the BRS series, to solidify their understanding of review notes during exam prep.

    Are AUC class notes/lecture slides sufficient for the exams? Of course, I do not plan on neglecting review books, and I do understand their value for preparing for Step 1. I just want to know if they are necessary to pass the exams? Also, what other resources do professors recommend, and do students find them useful? I guess I would just appreciate more insight on lecture material, review books, and how to use them during precious study time.

    -Lecture notes are sometimes inclusive for the exam, but not always in my experience. The professors will usually assign a textbook section to supplement lecture material. They can also elaborate within the lecture that is fair game even if just spoken during lecture. Compressing the lecture down into a compact study aide is your best bet. Ideally you should be able to discuss what each lecture covered in a summary without looking at your notes. I find it easier to remember clinical examples and elaborate on why that specific disease illustrates a pathway or mechanism. The BRS, Step study aides are a great supplement as they cover the bare bones important areas that you should know. This is in addition to what is in the lecture. Remember the job of the professors is to teach you as much as they can and test you on that material. Since a lot of the professors teach to USMLE material, studying that too can only help.

    Since time management is paramount, try this approach and tweak it to what works for you.
    Start After Lectures END:
    Hour 1 - Break Relax
    Hour 2 - Recopy notes to max 1-2 pages per lecture and summarize as much as possible. Make practice questions to test your knowledge on the lecture material.
    10 Min Break
    Hour 3 - Review 1-4 lectures from prior weeks,days on each class. Test your self on each topic and try to recall as much from memory without looking at original notes. DON'T READ SUMMARY'S, if you get stuck on a topic refer to it for help.
    10 Min break
    Hour 4 - Dinner & Break
    10 min break
    Hour 5 - USMLE Questions/BRS Questions on subject matter.
    Done.

    As Exam day approaches, you review more lectures to ensure you cover every lecture 3-4x and know can readily recall 90% material without prompting.

    Weekends:
    Do Hour 3 onward in the evenings to review sat, sunday and then use the mornings and afternoons to live, shop, play on beach. Before exams I would study more on weekends, but never all day.

    5 hours is a lot daily, but remember your in med school. Most peoples attention span is max 20 min, so studying for an hour is tough, but you can get used to it.


    With regards to pre-studying: First off, if you are qualified enough to study without medical school, why are you going to medical school? I do not start classes until January. In the meantime, instead of psychotically "pre-studying" (which, by the way, I never considered and refuse to consider) I am using this time to discover what type of student I want to become, perhaps testing different schedules, working, and spending time with friends and family. I am also reading a lot of the blogs about St. Maarten which I find fascinating and trying to enter completely well informed so my studies don't suffer. I think a lot of people who read these forums are doing the same thing as well.
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    @Macgyver1MD thanks for the great tips and detailed response. I really like your suggestion on making practice questions, especially since keeping them organized gives a great resource for finals and Step 1 exam.

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    he's right on the money

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    Thank you!

    What percent of those who fail to match match the year next?

    Thanks.

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