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    AUC Fall 2011 vs LECOM Post Bac Fall 2011

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    Hey everyone, I recently received my acceptance to AUC as well as LECOM's Post bac program for Fall 2011. To familiarize everyone with the LECOM post bac program: 1 year curriculum, interview in January during your post bac and if you have a 3.0 you (almost always) gain acceptance into the DO program for the fall of that year. AKA, no wait before starting their DO program.

    I'm really torn and don't know which to chose. At the moment I am interested in anesthesiology as well as general surgery, so having an opportunity to be in a residency for those two specialties is very important to me. I do not feel DOs are less qualified, so that doesn't affect my decision. The main difference is a year of post bac that DOES NOT guarantee my acceptance into their program compared to already being accepted into AUC. I also know that the Post Bac students at LECOM are looked down upon by the first years and aren't necessarily treated as well by professors. In addition, most of the classes you take during the post bac are the same as first year classes, just a little less detail. As a result, I'm afraid that I won't pay as much attention in my first year because I'm already familiar with the subjects and then will do poorly because I didn't prepare as well. I know a few people who go to AUC and like it...I think it would be a good match for me, but I don't know.

    What do you guys think?

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    well you are going to have to consider multiple variables. if you are dead set on those two specialties.....gas and surgery are competitive fields and you would probably have an easier chance obtaining them through AOA residencies.

    however, remember these 5 states : West Virginia, Florida, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, and Michigan

    the above states require an osteopathic internship year prior to starting residency in order to get a license. this is especially true if you want to jump ship into a ACGME residency (i think some AOA residencies have them included.... not 100% sure though).

    so in reality, you may be giving up 2 years instead of the one for the post bac. you should definitely do more research about this before making your decision. not all DO's like the internship as this article states, but it appears the the higher ups are dead set on keeping it. Evaluating the Rationale of the Osteopathic Internship -- Smith and Opipari 104 (6): 230 -- Journal of the American Osteopathic Association

    i still stand that if you are dead set on those specialties, your greatest chance is through a DO school. however, they are certainly doable from a caribbean school as we have had quite a few matches into gas this past year. even if you had to do a prelim year in general surgery to impress a program, thats still just 1 year down the drain instead of potentially 2 years.

    again, do lots of research about this topic before making a decision. try to get as much info as possible from both DO friendly websites as well as IMG friendly websites such as VMD.

    good luck with your decision.
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    I would be a bit leary of AUC

    A friend of mine applied for August 2011 or January 2012. He graduates with his undergrad on April 30th. He just got a letter last week that he was accepted to AUC for the SUMMER term of 2010 that starts May 2nd. Well, he never applied for that semester as he would not be able to get his transcripts verifying his degree sent to them until after May 2nd and further, would never be able to get the testing done, all documentation necessary etc in time to move only a few days after graduation.

    Well, he very politely contacted AUC to tell them that he never applied for Summer 2010 and what could be done about it. They got nasty and argumentative with him and told him that he did apply for summer of 2010 (which is impossible) and if he wanted to defer, he had to send in his 1600.00 to hold his spot, file a request for deferrment and if they decided to defer him, he would have to pay an additional 500.00 deferrment fee. While he was ok with paying the 1600.00 he didn't feel he should have to pay the additional 500.00. He had the feeling that they were just trying to fill their May starting class.

    He was turned off because of their lack of professionalism and is concerned about spending 1/4 of a million for med school when they seem so disorganized at best, or dishonest at worst.

    Just something to think about. its a lot of money to spend if you can't accomplish what you want to accomplish in the long run. He also heard that AUC is having problems placing their students in US based clinicals.
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    Ok I don't know about your friend but thats not how it is at all. Its very common for applicants to get a conditional acceptance last minute some ppl get accepted 1 week before the semester starts and the school will just let them go ahead and start the semester and get all their documentation in as it becomes available. Also, I was accepted for September 2010 and deferred until January 2011 and there was no deferment fee just the $1600 deposit so maybe you're friend doesn't know *** he's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by as526 View Post
    Ok I don't know about your friend but thats not how it is at all. Its very common for applicants to get a conditional acceptance last minute some ppl get accepted 1 week before the semester starts and the school will just let them go ahead and start the semester and get all their documentation in as it becomes available. Also, I was accepted for September 2010 and deferred until January 2011 and there was no deferment fee just the $1600 deposit so maybe you're friend doesn't know *** he's doing.

    It is great that you are defending AUC's rep and all, seeing how you (and I) are going to be students there. However, you should hold back on the attitude a little bit, at least until you have your ducks in a row.

    The poster mentioned that he did not apply for the May semester, but received admission to it. What does that have to do with conditional acceptances up to a week before the semester begins? Nothing.

    Also, your deferment may not have cost you anything, but mine did cost $500. The charge is written up on the credit card authorization form they send you in the acceptance packet. I don't know if yours listed it, but mine did and I did pay the $500 to defer, so his friend is not wrong on that point either.

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    US MD > US DO > IMG MD

    Post this thread on StudentDoctorNetwork under pre-osteo. They will give you the hard facts. I can't be bothered to go into everything right now. Sure, people from AUC and other Caribbean schools have placed into said specialties but you will have a better chance by doing the LECOM post-bacc program. Work your tail off and get that 3.0

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    I applied for September and was OFFERED to start in May. I declined the offer and took the September 2009 spot (regret it a bit, but no biggie). AUC was never insistant upon me taking May nor attempted to lie that I applied for May but simply gave me the option to start then. Either way I sent in $1600 to secure my spot for September. What happened to your friend is likely a misunderstanding and is by no means a common occurrence.
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    LECOM Post Bac

    Quote Originally Posted by mulberry View Post
    US MD > US DO > IMG MD

    Post this thread on StudentDoctorNetwork under pre-osteo. They will give you the hard facts. I can't be bothered to go into everything right now. Sure, people from AUC and other Caribbean schools have placed into said specialties but you will have a better chance by doing the LECOM post-bacc program. Work your tail off and get that 3.0

    When did it drop to 3.0? Last time I heard, it was 3.5 for the LECOM post bac and over 24 MCAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulberry View Post
    US MD > US DO > IMG MD

    Post this thread on StudentDoctorNetwork under pre-osteo. They will give you the hard facts.
    "Hi guys, I can't decide between apple juice and orange juice. What do I do?"

    "Post this on the Apple Juice Lovers forum, they'll help you decide."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemar View Post
    "Hi guys, I can't decide between apple juice and orange juice. What do I do?"

    "Post this on the Apple Juice Lovers forum, they'll help you decide."
    You wanna debate the TRUE/PROVEN/ACCURATE stats with them pal, go right ahead.

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