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    Couple of UK-residency-type questions ;-)

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    Hello all. Im so glad I stumbled across this web-site.

    I have a couple of short questions that I will post on the St Georges, AUC and Ross websites:

    1) Does this university offer me the chance to return to the United Kingdom for my clinical years, with the option to sit the British licensing exams? I am currently enrolled in a US college.

    2) If anyone knows of anyone who took this approach could you let me know if they had any trouble either obtaining a residency placement over there, or had difficulty with the licensing exams because of their US training.

    Thankyou so much for your time.

    *****.

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    Couple of UK-residency-type questions ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by davidcsnow
    Hello all. Im so glad I stumbled across this web-site.

    I have a couple of short questions that I will post on the St Georges, AUC and Ross websites:

    1) Does this university offer me the chance to return to the United Kingdom for my clinical years, with the option to sit the British licensing exams? I am currently enrolled in a US college.

    2) If anyone knows of anyone who took this approach could you let me know if they had any trouble either obtaining a residency placement over there, or had difficulty with the licensing exams because of their US training.

    Thankyou so much for your time.

    *****.
    Seems like you are planning to do the reverse of what most other students are doing.. which is perfectly fine!

    Anyway you should already know that AUC has loads of clinical sites in England and 1 in Ireland, so it'll be easy if you want to do all your clinicals there if that's what you want. As far as sitting for the British licensing exams, yes you can and when I was in England I happened to meet an AUC grad who was doing SHO training in London, and he said there are a few AUC grad he knew that are also working in different parts of the UK as SHOs. The way I understand it is that you need to take the PLAB exam in order to be eligible to work as HO/SHO, and from then on you just sit for the same exams as UK-trained doctors to advance to SpR, etc. Those exams (except for PLAB) have pretty low pass rate (30-40%) but eventually most people will pass.
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    UK question

    What does HO/SHO stand for?

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    It's for House Officer/Senior House Officer.

    It's the British equivalent of interns and residents (and fellows?) in the US.

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    the scoop

    HO--"house dog" basically an intern but also part lab tech, porter and nurse. make lots of extra money by getting patients to sign forms agreeing to be cremated following their death ....AKA "ash cash"

    SHO: one who has done the required HO jobs.
    you could work as an SHO for YEARS, and many do. you can do SHO jobs in surgery trying to pass your eexams, or SHO medicine, OBGYN, etc...and jump between them. "GP" training involves rotating as SHO in a number of fields ( as does the training for emergency medicine)

    Registrar : somebody in a selected field of training like surgery.
    many less jobs than for SHO, so you may have a long wait.
    also can work as a registrar for years.
    at this stage you should have passed many of your exams

    Sr registrar : a registrar in limbo waiting for :
    a consultant to die
    a consultant to retire
    a new hospital to be built

    you can be a sr registrar for a looong time too


    so all of the above are basically resident/fellow status and salary.

    finally, some people actually get a job as a consultant.

    at my hospital in the UK ( which I'll guess had 400 beds ) there were THREE consultant surgeons. that's it...3
    one doubled as a urologist
    one did thyroids for fun
    one did vascular as a hobby ( they called it a special interest )

    same place had 3 internists !
    one doubled as GI AND pulmonologist, one did noninvasive cardiology and one was an endocrinologist

    It reminds me of the old days of learning a trade, where you worked for peanuts for 20 years as an apprentice before you became an official blacksmith or printer, etc which is why so many people just take the easier path and become a GP ( which BTW would have been the fate for a lot of us had Hillary the devil passed her socialized medicine fiasco where you would be arrested and drawn and quartered for dare declare that you wanted to subspecialize or actually live and work in the city/state of your choice ! )

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