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    hey guys

    those of us entering 5th semester can buy all that equipment from note service now as a package.

    One thing listed as an optional upgrade is the "Welch Allyn Combination Diagnostic Set" that has both an opthalmoscope and a otoscope. They list it for $525.. But, I' googled and found dozens of medical sites sellling something that seems to fit the bill for a $hundred or so less. Can anyone show what the kind looks like that the school wants you to buy? I wouldn't mind saving a few hundred....

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    It would be interesting to hear from students who purchased the otoscope/opthalmoscope as to whether or not it was a good investment. I know a ton of people who didn't purchase one, instead used the one's available in the lab.

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    well, next semester (january) they are requiring that you purchase the whole kit (oto/opthalmoscope, stethoscope, sphyg, tuning fork, etc). if you don't have it the first day of class, they will drop you from ICM!

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    $500??? I bought the otoscope/opthalmoscope kit this semester, and it was $175. In terms of quality, it was mediocre. I've seen some that are much nicer (and more expensive), but I've also seen some that are cheaper and poorer quality. I bought everything from the school except my stethoscope (because I wanted a nice one). The total cost for everything from the school was about $300.
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    Although I have no idea what stethoscope they package, I'd recommend you spend the money and buy yourself a Littman cardiology stethoscope. Yes, they're expensive, but they're well worth the cost. I've been using one now for a couple years as a paramedic and they make a tremendous difference. I cannot stand using the stethoscopes on ambulances anymore (even the decent ones). You will hear significantly more with a high quality stethoscope; I really don't think you can adequately determine lung sounds without one.

    And whatever you do, don't use the stethoscope with two tubes. It's pretty much the worse thing you could do with a stethoscope...the tubes can rub together and produce artifact noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slevit1 View Post
    Although I have no idea what stethoscope they package, I'd recommend you spend the money and buy yourself a Littman cardiology stethoscope. Yes, they're expensive, but they're well worth the cost. I've been using one now for a couple years as a paramedic and they make a tremendous difference. I cannot stand using the stethoscopes on ambulances anymore (even the decent ones). You will hear significantly more with a high quality stethoscope; I really don't think you can adequately determine lung sounds without one.

    And whatever you do, don't use the stethoscope with two tubes. It's pretty much the worse thing you could do with a stethoscope...the tubes can rub together and produce artifact noise.
    Did you hear the ocean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikima View Post
    Did you hear the ocean?
    that, and then some!

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    yep you should buying everything! or you will fail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slevit1 View Post
    Although I have no idea what stethoscope they package, I'd recommend you spend the money and buy yourself a Littman cardiology stethoscope. Yes, they're expensive, but they're well worth the cost. I've been using one now for a couple years as a paramedic and they make a tremendous difference. I cannot stand using the stethoscopes on ambulances anymore (even the decent ones). You will hear significantly more with a high quality stethoscope; I really don't think you can adequately determine lung sounds without one.

    And whatever you do, don't use the stethoscope with two tubes. It's pretty much the worse thing you could do with a stethoscope...the tubes can rub together and produce artifact noise.
    I bought a Littmann Master Cardiology Black Edition for near $200. Thought it was a decent stetho and decided to buy a back up in case it "walked off" in the hospital.

    I ended up buying an ADC Cardio off eBay for under $30...beats the Littmann hands down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aychamo View Post
    well, next semester (january) they are requiring that you purchase the whole kit (oto/opthalmoscope, stethoscope, sphyg, tuning fork, etc). if you don't have it the first day of class, they will drop you from ICM!
    That's absoultely ridiculous....

    Show me one med student that carried around all this cr@p for their clinicals and I'll show you a medical student with a 30 lb white coat....

    Seriously, you won't need a majority of this stuff, and the items you will need you'll want to pick out yourself.

    It's too bad they're making you buy a "kit" that you'll neither want nor need or be kicked outta ICM...sheesh.

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