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Thread: Are you dismissed for failing Med 1?

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    Are you dismissed for failing Med 1?

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    Does anyone know what happens if you fail Med 1? Are you dismissed or do you get a chance to repeat Med 1? Is it a wiser decision to Withdraw before Block 3? Please advise.

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    Depending on the number of courses you fail, they may allow you to take remedials. If you are not doing well in med 1, withdraw from the program. You will save more money and time withdrawing in med 1 than risk getting dismissed at med 5 due to failing step 1 comp shelf grades or at clinicals (if you do manage ok step 1 scores) because of not passing step 2ck comp shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raj25 View Post
    Depending on the number of courses you fail, they may allow you to take remedials. If you are not doing well in med 1, withdraw from the program. You will save more money and time withdrawing in med 1 than risk getting dismissed at med 5 due to failing step 1 comp shelf grades or at clinicals (if you do manage ok step 1 scores) because of not passing step 2ck comp shelf.
    So basically it's everything except ICM. If I do withdraw, will they allow me to return?

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    ICM is the most important course since the questions are integrated and most reflect step 1, 2ck and most part of clinicals/residency.

    You can only assess yourself and ask if you can truly score >240 on step 1, score >90th percentile in clinicals and step 2ck.

    In honesty, only students who score >240 on step 1, >90th percentile on step 2ck graduate and get residencies...and that's only a handful. The rest either get dismissed before graduation or before step 1.

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    Scary to know school started not to long ago and students are already failing…is it that hard? what would you say is the reason for failing??

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    There can be many reasons to fail in Med 1 or any other semesters while at AUA. Some have health issues, personal problems, family problems back home and for some it's the false belief that they can handle the curriculum of a medical school but sadly find out it's not for them. Then there are people on the island who are there to party and di*k around, thinking they will make it and in some cases they do, until they have to take the COMPs and then the Steps.

    Whatever the problem/issue OP has, I am sure the school will give him/her another chance. They may put you on probation while you repeat a course and if you fail again while on probation then you will be Dismissed. So if you think there is an actual issue that is stopping you from studying, then withdrawing might be the better option. Deal with the issue first and apply again. I would advise OP to refer to the student's catalog that's on the AUA site and read the appeal/readmission policies and probably speak to Dr.Glasser on the island.

    Finally, no it is NOT true that only students who have more than 240 on steps make it and become a doctor. I, for one, did not get more than 240 and yet I'm doing a residency in an IM program in NY. The key is to beat the US mean.

    Anyways, good luck OP.
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    Most probably for the old curriculum students, the school might be lenient. It was much tougher for them (including you vick) - since semesters were condensed and no 1.5 month breaks in between semesters like the 2 semester students have.

    Mind you the school has cranked up it's standards especially on the kids who went through the 2 semester system. The school won't let you graduate if you don't score high on step 2ck and step 1 scores also taken into consideration which I think is fair since the school has cut slack on us big time.

    Also I think because of Title 4 funding, the school will be more harsh on graduation rate and students who write step 1.

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