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    Really Interested in AUA - Current Chances

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    Hello, I'm new to the forum and heard this is the place to be for asking good questions. I have recently just graduated and plan on taking the MCAT next month (September 12th) and really am interested in AUA based off what I know. Once I complete my MCAT (pending my score), I plan on applying to DO/Caribbean schools in Fall/Spring of 2013/14 while also taking some additional science undergraduate classes to boost my GPA and as well as learn some new material (A+P, Biochemistry, Parasitology, et)

    I understand that AUA (as well as other Caribbean schools) don't require the MCAT for admission so would it be beneficial to start and submit an application now since I have completed all the required coursework.

    Right now this what I currently have:

    Inorganic Chemistry 1 - B
    Inorganic Chemistry 2 -B
    Biology 1 - B
    Biology 2 - B+
    Organic Chemistry 1 - B-
    Organic Chemistry 1 Lab - B-
    Organic Chemistry 2 B-
    Organic Chemistry 2 Lab B-
    General Physics 1 - B
    General Physics 1 Lab - B-
    General Physics 2 Lab - A-
    Registered for General Physics 2 lecture in our Summer Session III (Earlier classes were full)

    I have been to 3 schools in the last 5 years so I really am not sure what my cumulative GPA would exactly be, also the added fact i plan on doing some additional science coursework, however:

    School 1 for 2 years: 2.3 GPA (49 credits and I was miserable)
    School 2 for 1 year (including summer): 3.41 GPA (47 credits)
    School 3 for 2 years: 3.4 GPA (77 credits)

    Some medical experience and awards throughout the years including:
    Dean's list a couple times and inducted into a NHS for my field of study (Health Science)
    300+hrs Mental Health Internship (2012)
    Volunteer EMS/Firefighting (Since 2011-currently)
    Shadowing a DO a couple hours a week until August 31st. (currently)
    Starting to gather my letters of recommendation from Professors/Supervisors

    Overall, just wondering if I should hold off this application until after the Fall for the Caribbean schools that don't require the MCAT (specifically AUA) or go ahead and start now (earlier the better right?).

    Sorry for the in depth post, didn't know what to post and ask lol any feedback would be greatly appreciated

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    wow you wasted a lot of time in school
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    Agreed with rahulb. You obviously spent a lot of time and effort in school. So why not try options better than AUA. Not to discredit AUA but there are better carrib schools like ross and saba or even better DO schools in the States.
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    Earlier overseas is NOT better than later US-DO. Consider very carefully the match projections from ACGME and AAMC for foreign graduates. If you have a shot at a US medical school, whether MD or DO, take it, assuming you want to work in the US after graduation. The Carib schools are not going anywhere. Definitely exhaust your home front options before looking overseas, or at least apply to all of them at once so you have covered all of your bases. A home-grown degree is likely going to make your chances at matching infinitely higher in 2017 and beyond.

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    Your situation was similar to mine. However I hated studying for the MCATs it was taking too long. So I applied to AUA while I was studying for MCATs, I got in, looked into AUA, I liked it.. So I said freak the MCATs. However, you can still get into DO or other carib schools if you bust *** on the MCATs. You just got to be patient enough to do it....which means even more time invested. Just remember USA looks at all Carib accredited schools equally. It's your performance in med school that counts. Dont fall for the "this school is better" crap. Choose wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherina926 View Post
    Your situation was similar to mine. However I hated studying for the MCATs it was taking too long. So I applied to AUA while I was studying for MCATs, I got in, looked into AUA, I liked it.. So I said freak the MCATs. However, you can still get into DO or other carib schools if you bust *** on the MCATs. You just got to be patient enough to do it....which means even more time invested. Just remember USA looks at all Carib accredited schools equally. It's your performance in med school that counts. Dont fall for the "this school is better" crap. Choose wisely.
    I would love to say all carrib schools are the same. I did my basic sci in AUA back in the old curriculum and Yes AUA is a great school. But unfortunately, in comparison to Ross or Saba, AUA has a long ways to go in terms of establishing a positive rapport with US hospitals and "cheating" is obviously one of them. AUA admin have cracked down on cheating when I was a student there but apparently the school lost nbme accredition and loans based on the "cheating" done by the batch that is about to write step 1. Your performance in carrib schools regardless doesn't matter but your performance in Step 1 matters. AUA used to prepare students well for step but with this new batch getting low 40s on comp shelf and the school losing accredition, I think the school has taken a wrong turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepsatrap View Post
    I would love to say all carrib schools are the same. I did my basic sci in AUA back in the old curriculum and Yes AUA is a great school. But unfortunately, in comparison to Ross or Saba, AUA has a long ways to go in terms of establishing a positive rapport with US hospitals and "cheating" is obviously one of them. AUA admin have cracked down on cheating when I was a student there but apparently the school lost nbme accredition and loans based on the "cheating" done by the batch that is about to write step 1. Your performance in carrib schools regardless doesn't matter but your performance in Step 1 matters. AUA used to prepare students well for step but with this new batch getting low 40s on comp shelf and the school losing accredition, I think the school has taken a wrong turn.

    I haven't heard anything about the school losing accreditation. Please reference that. All schools have cheaters believe it or not but yes that was a low blow. When I said performance matters I also meant step exams. If aua is accredited like they say they are, then I feel if you do well on the step exams you'll be fine.

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    nbme testing rights have been completely lost in AUA. Kaplan has now taken over. If you read previous posts, you can find it. And yes, losing nbme status is bad because it hinders the credibility of the school - i.e., residency directors will think twice before giving a residency spot to an AUA student. I passed step one on my first attempt. Unfortunate but myself and many of my friends got stuck due to the mishaps of the current batch about to write step 1. It has become increasingly difficult not just as a carrib grad but also NOW as an AUA student.

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    Can you cheat on the Step Exams? I see what you are saying but i think optimistically, there will always be a Match list. It may hurt AUA credibility but residency directors are suppose to, and as far as I'm concerned still look at applicants as individuals. At the end of the day, there are students that don't cheat, bust ***, do very well on the steps and move on to residency.

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    Starting now at any foreign medical school, Carib or otherwise, is an increased risk. Based on the information published by ACGME and AAMC, there will likely be a sharp and dramatic uptick over the coming few years in FMGs who "don't cheat, bust ***, do very well on the steps..." and still do not move on to residency. I am not saying that it cannot be done, but I am saying that if the AAMC and AGME are not talking out of their nether regions, it is going to get really, really rough to match from any foreign medical school. The FMG match numbers for the past decade will not be remotely predictive if they begin to approach a 1-to-1 ratio of US grads to US internship positions.

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