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    AUA BSEP or MUA Pre-Med?

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    I've gotten accepted to AUA and MUA's BSEP and Pre-Med program, respectively. I am trying to decide between the two. At first glance, AUA looks to be the better choice since they have California approval, a bigger island (more things to do if/when there is downtime), newer campus, etc. MUA, however, is a lot more affordable and easier to get loans (AUA requires a 3.25 incoming GPA to be eligible for loans - I won't be eligible, unfortunately).

    But we're not talking about Med 1 here. We're talking about these pre-Med 1 programs that I have to pass first. MUA's program is a year long but looks more doable than AUA's 1 semester program. I have heard rumors that about 50% of folks who do the BSEP at AUA fail out. Any truth to that?

    Of course, I want to score well over 3.25 throughout med school but if I can't, then I am exactly sure how I'd be able to pay for it. Anyone have any advice for me?

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    Until someone who did BSEP can respond, I will offer some advice to carry you over.

    AUA
    pros- Cali approval, big island, new campus all as you mentioned, still fairly inexpensive tuition relatively speaking
    cons - we recently lost all of our privileges to administer NBME exams due to the extensive cheating and our provost threatened to quit bc of it, no one wants give the students loans - we have a had a different lender almost every semester and the loan situation is very shady with all the extra fees (the current lender will not allow deference of loans meaning you are charged interest Day 1), I know students who dropped out in the middle of this semester and opted to repeat it just so they will not fail - they were averaging less than 70% in classes - and lose their financial aid, the list goes on...

    50% don't fail out but a handful do not make the GPA cut and are forced to repeat. BSEP is a full schedule of courses that really do test your ability to survive med school.


    My advice: AUA's future as college of medicine is bleak. Don't come here unless you have your finances figured out. Cost of living on the island is much higher than one would expect. So many of friends have had to drop out due to financial issues. I cannot attest to the quality of MUA med but if AUA is your only option then just be prepared. This is just the hard truth no one will tell you. Good luck!

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    wow. the AUA alumni in the old curriculum were much better. guess AUA made a mistake in taking in arrogant kids for the new curriculum who cheat through and ruin it. AUA never had a case where the provost threatened to quit back in the old campus and initially new campus. And the negative consequences the new curriculum kids are making on the clinical sites and students doing rotations is disgusting. The school should kick these kids out.

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    Thanks for all the information docontheblock. I've considered what you said and I've decided to go to MUA. To me, losing privileges to administer NBME exams is a big deal. I believe the reason AUA has a 95% first-time pass rate on the steps is because of these NBME exams. That's why I was looking forward to going there.

    There's no guarantee they will get privileges back. Even if there is a chance to get it back, who knows when that will actually happen. I am not going to invest in a 170K+ education on the mere hope that AUA gets these privileges back.

    MUA is the better option it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docontheblock View Post
    Until someone who did BSEP can respond, I will offer some advice to carry you over.

    AUA
    pros- Cali approval, big island, new campus all as you mentioned, still fairly inexpensive tuition relatively speaking
    cons - we recently lost all of our privileges to administer NBME exams due to the extensive cheating and our provost threatened to quit bc of it, no one wants give the students loans - we have a had a different lender almost every semester and the loan situation is very shady with all the extra fees (the current lender will not allow deference of loans meaning you are charged interest Day 1), I know students who dropped out in the middle of this semester and opted to repeat it just so they will not fail - they were averaging less than 70% in classes - and lose their financial aid, the list goes on...

    50% don't fail out but a handful do not make the GPA cut and are forced to repeat. BSEP is a full schedule of courses that really do test your ability to survive med school.


    My advice: AUA's future as college of medicine is bleak. Don't come here unless you have your finances figured out. Cost of living on the island is much higher than one would expect. So many of friends have had to drop out due to financial issues. I cannot attest to the quality of MUA med but if AUA is your only option then just be prepared. This is just the hard truth no one will tell you. Good luck!
    Thank you docontheblock for a realistic answer about AUA. How many students are infact successful in securing residencies with AUA? I mean I've read somewhere that the school rakes in >300 students per semester and hardly anyone manages to pass comprehensive shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamstify View Post
    Thank you docontheblock for a realistic answer about AUA. How many students are infact successful in securing residencies with AUA? I mean I've read somewhere that the school rakes in >300 students per semester and hardly anyone manages to pass comprehensive shelf.
    docontheblock is correct when he says AUA's future as a college of medicine is bleak. I just completed my MED 5 and passed my comp shelf. The school has let me down in many ways. Now the current Dean is from Manipal and he brings his faculty team from Manipal India. The Faculty and Dean lie about everything - cheating, harassing students, manipulating the grades of students, etc. From Med 1 I have and many of my peers have witnessed blatant cheating on part of the faculty and our dean constantly covering it up and shutting up any one who talks against it.

    The Provost of the School Dr. Schwartz threatened to quit b/c of this and has placed the Dean and many of the faculty on Quarantine for Cheating. The school lost NBME accredition and only 20-25 people passed the kaplan comprehensive shelf and I don't see that many pass the nbme comp shelf taken in the states.

    Overall, poor quality education. Try ROSS, AUC and SGU.

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