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    What schools will except AUA transfers with passing step 1?

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    Will MUA or maybe even UNIBE, since it has federal loans, or AUC or ROSS take AUA transfers post step 1, into clinical sciences? I'm aware that transfering schools does not look good when applying for residency but waiting 7-8 months to begin clinical rotations which will not even be guaranteed to be completed in 24 months sounds like a valid reason any department head will be understanding of.

    I have asked my advisor and clinical dept guy Mr. M... for a guarantee in writing to state that if I wait eight months to start, my remaining rotations will be concluded in two years. They both will not do this, and I don't blame them. My only options are with AUA are to cross my fingers or transfer to another school and be almost halfway done with my rotations even before I would be able to start at AUA. That seems like the only logical way for me and it sucks because I have done everything AUA has asked. I'm not as young as the majority of AUA students are so you can understand why waiting isn't going to be an option for me, I want to start raising a family and buy a house etc.

    I spoke to a EIGHT doctors in various fields across the country which I personally know and they pretty much stated that it does not matter which carib school you go too. The Big 5 have the loans and cali approval...all the other ones with New York approval ARE identical. So it's funny because AUA is identical to the "medical world" as Windsor LOL!!! Yes we know that everyone who fails goes to Windsor but the reality is that a Windsor grad with similar board scores as an AUA student have equal chances at residency. HAHAHA why did I not ask around before I signed my life away in loans to AUA???? There is no advantage, so there is also no need to pay an arm and leg.

    They told me to pick the program that will allow me to apply for residency the quickest keeping in mind state liscensure issues with the type of rotations. I researched online and even Xavier med school in aruba has green book rotations!!!!! They only charge $7,700 a semester. ROFL!!! only $7,700.

    Are we paying an EXTRA $5,000 at AUA for an extra long vacation after taking step 1?? lol If i take that extra 5,000 a semester and give it to xavier will they give me a signed contract stating 24 months of all green rotations? I'm starting to believe they will.

    Also I have heard in the past that AUC will make you repeat your 5th semester, are they still doing this? I know it's a waste of 4 months but it's better than waiting 7 months. Also AUC has federal loans!

    Can you guys post info on places where AUA students with passing step one scores can transfer into and the conditions, if any, on transfer?? I will do some research and do the same.

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    yikes, i think you mean "accept"
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    Yah at one point I was thinking a transfer out would be the best option but as of now I'm risking it with AUA. However, I can guarantee you this. If I have to wait between rotations I am out.

    I looked into MUA and my friends asked the school (I didn't directly) that a transfer is possible if you have good step scores. I honestly wish I went to MUA in the first place. I now of people that did rotations even before they got their step grades in if they had superior undergrad grades. I don't know where people are getting that AUA is almost a top 4 school. Seriously? With limited rotation spots and months waiting hardly even qualifies it to some of the other newer carib schools. Fine you got a nice campus...who cares. I want to learn medicine full time and not part-time with ridiculous breaks inbetween.

    Windsor will take you for sure. I know they had some clinical issues a while back but it is all sorted out the last I heard which was about a month ago.

    If you can get AUC I would be out in two seconds and just repeat fifth semester. Basically, you can start reviewing for step II. I also believe that SABA allows tranfers but once again you will have to ask (I think that you need to redo fifth semester).

    If I would have known this before hand, I would have applied for a transfer early and still may do so. If I had known this before basic sciences I would be sitting at MUA.

    Just go on to the MUA or other school forum's and see if they are currently having any issues. I looked at MUA's and contacted my friends there and they are chilling. They are hearing about there next rotation while in the rotation they are currently in. Some are getting two back to back in the same spot. But do your own research to be absolutely certain. I don't want to guide you in the wrong direction.

    It seems that people are accepting there fate at AUA right now. Alot of my friends are waiting and although stressed most have accepted it. Which is good and part of life and something I wish I could do personally. My personal viewpoint is that you should be an advocate for your fellow class members/ future collegues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by student1234 View Post
    Will MUA or maybe even UNIBE, since it has federal loans, or AUC or ROSS take AUA transfers post step 1, into clinical sciences? I'm aware that transfering schools does not look good when applying for residency but waiting 7-8 months to begin clinical rotations which will not even be guaranteed to be completed in 24 months sounds like a valid reason any department head will be understanding of.

    I have asked my advisor and clinical dept guy Mr. M... for a guarantee in writing to state that if I wait eight months to start, my remaining rotations will be concluded in two years. They both will not do this, and I don't blame them. My only options are with AUA are to cross my fingers or transfer to another school and be almost halfway done with my rotations even before I would be able to start at AUA. That seems like the only logical way for me and it sucks because I have done everything AUA has asked. I'm not as young as the majority of AUA students are so you can understand why waiting isn't going to be an option for me, I want to start raising a family and buy a house etc.

    I spoke to a EIGHT doctors in various fields across the country which I personally know and they pretty much stated that it does not matter which carib school you go too. The Big 5 have the loans and cali approval...all the other ones with New York approval ARE identical. So it's funny because AUA is identical to the "medical world" as Windsor LOL!!! Yes we know that everyone who fails goes to Windsor but the reality is that a Windsor grad with similar board scores as an AUA student have equal chances at residency. HAHAHA why did I not ask around before I signed my life away in loans to AUA???? There is no advantage, so there is also no need to pay an arm and leg.

    They told me to pick the program that will allow me to apply for residency the quickest keeping in mind state liscensure issues with the type of rotations. I researched online and even Xavier med school in aruba has green book rotations!!!!! They only charge $7,700 a semester. ROFL!!! only $7,700.

    Are we paying an EXTRA $5,000 at AUA for an extra long vacation after taking step 1?? lol If i take that extra 5,000 a semester and give it to xavier will they give me a signed contract stating 24 months of all green rotations? I'm starting to believe they will.

    Also I have heard in the past that AUC will make you repeat your 5th semester, are they still doing this? I know it's a waste of 4 months but it's better than waiting 7 months. Also AUC has federal loans!

    Can you guys post info on places where AUA students with passing step one scores can transfer into and the conditions, if any, on transfer?? I will do some research and do the same.

    You seem to have all the answers already...hasta la vista !

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    Quote Originally Posted by student1234 View Post
    The Big 5 have the loans and cali approval...
    actually, Saba does not have federal loans. they use the loan sharks of Ed Invest, just like we did.

    good luck, there have been people who have posted now and again about transferring. from what i remember, SGU, Ross, AUC are out. not sure about Saba, SMU wants you to go back to third semester.

    i don't know, transferring down to Windsor is probably not the best idea.
    M.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOCplucinski View Post
    actually, Saba does not have federal loans. they use the loan sharks of Ed Invest, just like we did.

    good luck, there have been people who have posted now and again about transferring. from what i remember, SGU, Ross, AUC are out. not sure about Saba, SMU wants you to go back to third semester.

    i don't know, transferring down to Windsor is probably not the best idea.
    whoops, yes i meant accept.

    I have heard SGU does not accept transfers but I will look into AUC and Ross and I guess Xavier...I'm not even going to look into Windsor since we all know that's an easy in. I wouldn't want to transfer to SMU with the whole cali disapproval thing.

    What is the real difference between AUA in Windsor? Both have New York Approval. That alone puts both schools on equal par. Even if AUA did get Cali approval I doubt they will grandfather us in. When people in the medical field ask what carib school I go to, they don't know where or what AUA is, it is a pretty new school, and I'm assuming it's the same for Windsor. They are both carib schools, and no one is going to know that Windsor accepts the bottom of the barrel. They are only going to see their accreditation.

    The only real difference I see is that Windsor's tuition = $4,990/sem. At AUA = $12,500 for clinical sciences. Why are we paying such high tuition for a school who doesn't have available clinical rotations, and a school which can't complete clinical rotations in 24 months?

    In my opinion AUA went broke building that campus before it should have and it is obvious now. They can't provide full loans for students and the reason that we have not gotten more clinical spots is because they don't have the money to buy them.

    Can anyone come up with any reasons why it would be smart to stay at AUA? Why shouldn't we transfer to a school with a cheaper tuition and available clinical spots with the same accreditation?

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    i am at windsor now and it does not have ny...and they have the same problems with clinicals as aua.

    if i could afford to go somwhere else i would

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    Quote Originally Posted by student1234 View Post

    I have heard SGU does not accept transfers but I will look into AUC and Ross and I guess Xavier...I'm not even going to look into Windsor since we all know that's an easy in. I wouldn't want to transfer to SMU with the whole cali disapproval thing.

    What is the real difference between AUA in Windsor? Both have New York Approval. That alone puts both schools on equal par. Even if AUA did get Cali approval I doubt they will grandfather us in. When people in the medical field ask what carib school I go to, they don't know where or what AUA is, it is a pretty new school, and I'm assuming it's the same for Windsor. They are both carib schools, and no one is going to know that Windsor accepts the bottom of the barrel. They are only going to see their accreditation.

    The only real difference I see is that Windsor's tuition = $4,990/sem. At AUA = $12,500 for clinical sciences. Why are we paying such high tuition for a school who doesn't have available clinical rotations, and a school which can't complete clinical rotations in 24 months?

    In my opinion AUA went broke building that campus before it should have and it is obvious now. They can't provide full loans for students and the reason that we have not gotten more clinical spots is because they don't have the money to buy them.

    Can anyone come up with any reasons why it would be smart to stay at AUA? Why shouldn't we transfer to a school with a cheaper tuition and available clinical spots with the same accreditation?
    woah.. i'm all for speaking out for issues that aren't being addressed etc..
    but you're throwing in a lot of alleged stuff and rumors along with facts.

    and it's not like everyone is forced to wait months to start rotations.
    some friends of mine started within weeks from passing the step.

    and i haven't done any of the research myself..
    but are you sure there are schools that will take AUA credits that have better rotation scheduling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpark01 View Post
    woah.. i'm all for speaking out for issues that aren't being addressed etc..
    but you're throwing in a lot of alleged stuff and rumors along with facts.

    and it's not like everyone is forced to wait months to start rotations.
    some friends of mine started within weeks from passing the step.

    and i haven't done any of the research myself..
    but are you sure there are schools that will take AUA credits that have better rotation scheduling?
    Hey when did you and your friends take the step? ALL my friends and friends of friends have waited minumum of 2-3 months. Now I know not a single person that is getting it faster than 3 months. Just curious to see if its just my crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpark01 View Post
    woah.. i'm all for speaking out for issues that aren't being addressed etc..
    but you're throwing in a lot of alleged stuff and rumors along with facts.

    and it's not like everyone is forced to wait months to start rotations.
    some friends of mine started within weeks from passing the step.

    and i haven't done any of the research myself..
    but are you sure there are schools that will take AUA credits that have better rotation scheduling?
    Everyone is being forced to wait...as of right now if you look people are waiting 6-8 + months to START rotations and once you start expect to take long breaks ranging about a few months between rotations.

    I know AUA is giving certain students with 99's "hookups". Just look at our fellow poster Rahul B, from his posts you can see when he took his step, when he started and he has the rotations he is in/completed in his signature. He's gotten family CORE, internal medicine CORE, and surgery CORE. I can't hate he got a 99, but the school should have told us that scores would play a role in rotation scheduling. So make sure you take an extra 4-5 months off to study to make sure you bust over a 96% and you will be smooth as butter. Other than that everyone is in the same boat, so mr park01 your nonsense about your friends "starting in weeks"...that must have been a different time and maybe a different school.

    As far as the other schools having better clinical situations...well the situation at AUA is so bad that the conditions at worst will be equal, but your tuition will be cheaper! From the info I have read the clinical situation at other schools is at par to how it was at aua 2-3 yrs ago because there are not as many students who pass step so there are more spots available lol.

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