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    I Was Justin You is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    Is AUA becoming a weed out school?

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    I was talking to some previous and current students.

    From what I heard they are telling me that AUA is becoming more and more of a "weed out school"

    A few years ago some students tell me that class size was about 60 and now it is over a 100. So the classes are more difficult and many students flunk out and get weeded out and end up at Windsor.

    Or is this simply because the class size has increased and since the pool of students has increased so clearly more people will fail.

    I would like to get the thoughts of the rest of the board on this.

    Thanks alot guys!

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    well i can go as far to say the reason they have more flunk outs is because they take more risks on students when they accept them. some people get accepted that may not be able to handle the cource work. also while the school being brand new im sure they wanted to keep a relatively high pass rate for the class and quite possibly could be easier. now that AUA is getting more applicants and more space to put the accepted students it is possible that they are raising the bar on the passing leaneancy (sp) ...now instead of saying mcat is not necessary they are saying that it would help distinguish you from the other students if you took the mcat....sooo you be the judge...

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    it could be a combination of things. a lot of people are just hearing about caribbean schools now and a lot of people are starting to think that they can just go to school there thinking perhaps it is easier, when in actuality, it is not. that, along with AUA trying to grow a little bit, the class sizes will naturally get larger. if AUA is trying to get a better name, they obviously won't pass anyone who goes to their school, they can afford to get a little more stringent on their tests. now only if AUA could get their clinical act together and handle all those new students and get them into rotations...

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    I don't think AUA is a weed out school. I think it became more popular which means more students which means more students who can potentially fail. You can't blame everything on the school itself. You have to take some responsibility for your own grades at some point.


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    i agree actually. i would think that maybe ratio -wise, it's the same ratio of students that fail out than it was before when the class sizes were smaller.

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    I think AUA is accepting this many students because more $$$ comes in. The reason why it appears to be a weed out school is b/c students are easily accepted, or so was the case a year ago. I bet the school would go as far as accepting students with low stats just to get their money. That shelf rule makes it seem like that too-if you fail a shelf by 1 point, you have to repeat the entire class, pay the money for the class, on top of that, stay behind another semester and pay for full tuition from then on! It's scary to fail, if anyone is thinking about coming here, know that failing is very possible, and be really really committed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureDoc86 View Post
    I think AUA is accepting this many students because more $$$ comes in. The reason why it appears to be a weed out school is b/c students are easily accepted, or so was the case a year ago. I bet the school would go as far as accepting students with low stats just to get their money. That shelf rule makes it seem like that too-if you fail a shelf by 1 point, you have to repeat the entire class, pay the money for the class, on top of that, stay behind another semester and pay for full tuition from then on! It's scary to fail, if anyone is thinking about coming here, know that failing is very possible, and be really really committed!
    come on, the shelf rule is EXTREMELY reasonable. if you cannot score at least a 53 or 54 (which by the way is the bottom 2-5% of all students taking the shelf) you obviously didn't learn the material.

    i will agree that the admission standards are low compared to schools like SGU so there are going to be a lot of students accepted that are probably not going to make it anyway. then again, if you look at it on the other side, why deny someone a chance or a shot and really becoming a doctor? it's the student's fault if they don't take that chance and do all they can with it.
    M.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureDoc86 View Post
    I think AUA is accepting this many students because more $$$ comes in. The reason why it appears to be a weed out school is b/c students are easily accepted, or so was the case a year ago. I bet the school would go as far as accepting students with low stats just to get their money. That shelf rule makes it seem like that too-if you fail a shelf by 1 point, you have to repeat the entire class, pay the money for the class, on top of that, stay behind another semester and pay for full tuition from then on! It's scary to fail, if anyone is thinking about coming here, know that failing is very possible, and be really really committed!
    At most US schools and some carib schools if you fail just one class you repeat the entire semester or the entire year! Having to repeat just that one class is MORE than fair. And I just want to point out failing the shelf is actually anything below s 64. AUA just wants to to be within 2 SD of the average (at least a 53 in 1st year and a 54 in 2nd year)


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    futuredoc, education is a money-making sport. take the heat or get out of the kitchen. i am very sure that part of the school's intention is to accept as many students in the beginning as possible to get as much money. Don't think, however, that all that money goes into someone's pocket. a lot of the money goes for technology, staff, construction, advertising, etc, etc, etc. However, I also agree with DocP... the school is giving those a chance where no other school would. This is where it strictly becomes the fault of the student and not the school itself. We are responsible for making the best with what we've got. There is no need in blaming the school.

    If the school's edumacation is not good enough, then at least use the school's ability to make you a doctor by studying the material you need to pass the steps. i have seen this blame game on here far too many times. It saddens me that people rather look at the negative side of the subject than to see the truth of it all. Do what you need to do and get out. You have two choices - study or go home. Heck, you can call any school a weedout school. Yeah, they fail those that do not study and do not excel... or those that choose to not excel by going to the beach every day.... by going to bars and clubs every night..... i assume i made my point.

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    no no, I do study and I do get good enough grades. I guess I'm pointing things out to those that are coming here and warning them they should study. Yeah, well looking back 53/54 is pretty low, I haven't gotten below 64 as of yet, but it just saddens me that the school is geared towards money, but does not accommodate us in proportion to what we pay. Take for example the white coat. Why is it left to the students to arrange such event, shouldn't it be a gift, at least! to show that who ever runs this school is human?? These poor students have to waste all their precious study time to collect money to pay for a white coat ceremony. It's all about the money yes, but why do they make it so obvious? And then next semester we still have to pay for our USMLE review, our own usmleworld subscription. We get nothing!

    It's like American Airlines in way, I pay $634 for a round trip to Antigua yet they still charge me $5.00 for a sandwich but if they had given it for free I would have came out of the plane with a smile and would never hesitated to fly with them again. So if AUA gives me just one thing free I would'nt complain as much as I am because I'd get the hint that they actually care.
    Last edited by FutureDoc86; 12-01-2008 at 03:56 PM.

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