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    TAKING the STEP

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    Someone please answer this for me. I am transferring into 5th and I am exempt from taking the COMP since I already passed it with my previous school .. ROSS. Just didn't make their cutoff. I was wondering if I could take the STEP during my 5th semester at AUA instead of waiting till the end.

    Has anyone taken their step during their 5th semester?

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    While in 5th we had to send in our paperwork to ECFMG and the school has to verify that we are indeed students. I filled out my paperwork about halfway through the semester and the school took about 4 weeks to verify everything. I think overall the registration took about 8 weeks so I guess it's possible to take the Step while in 5th.

    As far as will the school let you, I have no idea. Personally if you play your cards right you can utilize 5th semester to study for your step and take it right after 5th.

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    isn't Ross's passing score from the comp a 64? (which is an equivalent to a pass or a 185 on the step) why would you rush taking the step if you haven't passed the comp?
    M.D.

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    Between now and March which is when I want to take it, all I'm doing is studying. So I'll be more than prepared. Plus I got a 63 on this COMP so I'm not worried about passing the STEP one bit after I prep for it.

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    matt what is a 99% on the step? 240 or 260?

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    im not matt but 99% varies each time the step is taken since its a percentile... it can be as low as 235 or even high as 245-250. i know people that have gotten 99's and it does vary each time

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    hindu sounds about right, it varies
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    Actually the two digit score is not a percentile. I've read up entensively on this and my eyes cross everytime because it's a Mystery. Basically once you hit 230 your double diit score becomes 99. So technically you can make a 335 and have a 99 and someone who took the test beside you can make a 260 and also have a 99. It's bizarre. But over and over again I have read from the USMLE writers that the double digit score is not a percentile.

    There is a lecturer (for Kaplan) who also explained it in biostats and he said most people carry the misconception that the double digit score is a percentile..he then went on to explain the system at which time my eyes glazed over again.

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    it's also a mystery on what percentage you must get or how many questions correct to pass...
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    Actually the two digit score is not a percentile. I've read up entensively on this and my eyes cross everytime because it's a Mystery. Basically once you hit 230 your double diit score becomes 99.

    It varies, depending on the year. In 2006, a 239 was the beginning of the 99-range.

    Very few residency programs look at the two-digit score. In fact, when you rotate with American medical students, all of them use only their 3-digit score. I've met AMG residents who have no idea what I'm talking about when I tell them I got a 95 on Step 1. The two-digit score is a relic from an era when the laws in various states used two different systems to determine eligibility for licensure.


    So technically you can make a 335 and have a 99 and someone who took the test beside you can make a 260 and also have a 99. It's bizarre. But over and over again I have read from the USMLE writers that the double digit score is not a percentile.

    The two digit score is based roughly on how your performance compares to a standardized sample of American second year students who took the exam during the same period as you. It is neither a percentage nor a percentile and it's totally useless because you can't use it to determine percentile. The three digit score has a better correlation to the number of questions you answered correctly on the exam and can be used to determine percentile:

    If someone got a 230 on Step 1, given a mean of 218 and standard deviation of 23, you can use (230-218)/23 to get the z-score of 0.52. Stick that in a z-score table and you get 19.85.

    50+19.85 = 69.85

    All this means that someone who got a 230 on Step 1 is around the 70th percentile - and did better than ~70% of second year students in American schools.

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by sreec; 09-24-2008 at 08:47 PM.


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