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    medicine2k6 is offline Member 513 points
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    Bad News For Carribean Students who want to do Clinicals In NY- St. George University

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/ny...0george&st=cse

    Hello everybody, this is unfortunate news and puts us even in a more desperate situation to get clinicals especially since class sizes are growing as well. St. George made a $100 million dollar 10-year contract with 11 city hospitals where the school will pay the hospitals to place their students.

    Under the contract, which was signed last year but never publicly announced
    , St. George’s pays the hospitals $400 to $425 per student per week — St. George’s charges students about $1,000 a week in tuition — on top of an annual fee of $50,000 for hospitals that take 24 or more St. George’s students.
    The contract is a five-year term automatically renewable for another five, unless either side objects, calls for up to 600 clerkships.

    The hospitals include:
    Coney Island, Queens, Elmhurst, Lincoln, Metropolitan and Woodhull, Bellevue Hospital Center on the East Side and Jacobi Medical Center in the Bronx, etc.


    How does that affect us?

    The contract also bans the hospitals from providing clerkships to other Caribbean medical schools
    — a critical provision to St. George’s, which has faced heightened competition in recent years, particularly from Ross University on the island of Dominica, part of DeVry Inc., a publicly traded educational company, since 2003.

    Here is something interesting that SGU did: The contract was signed last year but never publicly announced....interesting and kinda shady?

    I think all the major carribean schools have to get together and go against this by calling up the
    New York City’s Health and Hospitals Corporation...otherwise we will be in a fight for rotations in NY.

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    cavalletti is offline Elite Member 510 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by medicine2k6 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/ny...0george&st=cse

    Here is something interesting that SGU did: The contract was signed last year but never publicly announced....interesting and kinda shady?
    This statement is not true. The deal was publicly announced. It was all over this board and is still talked about here.

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    AntiguaMedStudent is offline Junior Member 510 points
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    This deal wasn't totally subversivee. I am from New York and I remember reading about the agreement between HHC and St. George's in the newspaper. I don't recall whether or not the provision about them being the only off shore medical school to work with these hospital, but I think the article emphasized that they were the first offshore school with such a contract.

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    This is old news. There also have been a few newpaper articles on the deal.


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    This is really, really old news! And, the deal was no more secret than any other deal undertaken by any other Caribbean school. And once it was done, it was announced quite publicly.

    AUA didn't lose any spots because of this deal but some of the more established schools did.

    I think the key is for us is to stop spending so much money competing with SGU in New York and expand clinicals elsewhere. In general, AUA's clinical sites get better the farther west of NY you go, mostly due to less competetion from SGU and Ross.


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    Please see prior threads on this. And no, it wasn't a secret deal.
    Steph
    If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.

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    wow...where have you been?
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