If that was your real reason (wanting to warn others, my addendum), you would have moved on a long time ago. You've said your story over and over and over and over and over again. Now it's time to move on, don't you agree? Oh wait, you already did agree to move on when you said
****I said I would stay away for awhile unitl things changed.
As long as Windsors owner keeps luring ppl into his web, I will keep warning others and telling them MY opinion about the school. I have no authority to anything, but as long as I take a breath and Windsor don't care I will surely keep informing prospective consumers. Whether everybody listens or not is a different case, but so far I have received dozens of PM's from ppl of genuine concern and very few negative remarks, so I must be doing SOMETHING right.




So why go back on your word and return so soon?
*** "soon" is a relative term. I have given the owner a chance to listen to me and get in a dialogue, but he obviously belives in being n ostrich is more helpful than trying to answer for himselves.



At least you admit that you have an agenda
But it still contradicts what you said about the $10k not making a difference anymore
***10K does not make a difference in my life, but it DOES make a difference in my DAILY life. If someone took 10K from you, would YOU just sit down and let him keep it, irrespectively of your financial situation??



All the contradictions in your ramblings makes it impossible for anyone to figure out what you're trying to say. In Psych, we call this "flight of ideas". Part of the spectrum of your paranoid personality which could explain why you feel like every school is trying to "scam" you, aka "delusions of persecution". This has nothing to do with any one school because you've mentioned your conspiracy theories about a number of different schools, organizations, websites, or whatever else doesn't agree with your bizarre thinking.
****hahaha, nice try there. If you want to discuss "flight of ideas" we can surely do that, have no problem with that. I don't think someone opposed to me is the best to imply any behavioral pattern of disharmony here. And it SURELY has to do with "any one school" and you know it. I assume I still have the right to express my opinions about other things whether they are positive or negative, right??
Haven't yet done my psych core, but I think I learned in behavioral science, both in undergrad, medical school and at Kaplan before USMLE that anyone can read patterns of contradictions in any person. That's why it is important to discern between the issue and perosnal attacks. I stick to the issue and that is WIndsor University. You prefer the latter and if you want to, I can open a Japhethi-bashing Yahoo site for you to do whatever you want, but again, the topic here is Windsor University.


The sad part is that some of your "theories" might actually be true, but you've lost all credibility by blaming the world over and over again without taking any responsibilty yourself. Ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? But thats a part of the disorder where the patient seeks to change the world instead of themself.
*****If some of my theories are true as you say, then I have gained credibility from YOU even. Thanks alot.. After we are done with Windsor, I'll be more than happy to let let you do a comprehensive mental status exam upon me any time, but again, this is not the issue here.

***I wouldn't complain unless I was stuck in the residents lounge and had to listen to you ramble endlessly about how you lost the pool game because your opponent cheated, or the gravitational forces of the moon altered the game, or maybe because of El Nino
****hahaha, again nice try of perosnal attacks. If I lose a game of pool I get ready to play again, big deal, but if I get riped off by some "medical school" that tells me lies from day one, that is different. I hope you can discern here..


And to ExIHUS, yes we all get it. IHUS and Windsor are big liars who are trying to steal everyones money. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? I never said you lied, I said you're both driving us all nuts with your repetition and its resulted in lost credibility. Like I said, I don't know if the school is good or bad, but I know better than to take either of your 2 words for it. Did I miss anything? Unless you have anything new to add, I suggest you move on too and challenge Japhethi to a game of pool so you can privately discuss the planned invasion of the little green men from Mars, over and over and over and over.........
****I am not quite sure if I get it here. You say that WE are blaming everybody else for everything and you yourself are attacking us personally for one reason only, that we are telling the truth anbout what happened to us.

Again, until I get a BAN from the moderators at ValueMD, I will continue to tell the truth. I believe I am not doing my job in this world if I shut up here and let the same thng happen to others. Unless the school itself proves they have improved (again, by apologizing to me for their behaviour) I will not let this issue rest for long..
Hope you got it and good luck with your astrology 101 course. Seems like you have at least attended the first classes well.

gtg

no one gets banned for expression their opinion about a school. Thankfully the many users here know this. Guidelines are simple: dont flame, dont spam, dont flood. If you cant express yourself within these guidelines, you've got a bigger problem than being banned or whatever your school has or hasn't done with you.

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If you get a warning, put on yer manpants and stop whining about it.

Jeez, another long rambling post with nothing new

Didn't anyone ever teach you that quality is sometimes more effective than quantity? No one is trying to "stop you from telling the truth". By all means, please summarize (please look up this word) your entire story (again) so that it's clear for everyone. But the point (which you're obviously missing) is that once you've shared your story (for the millionth time), it's not necessary or effective to continue repeating it over and over and over again (maybe they can just sticky your story instead of having you repeat so often?). What does that concept have to do with Windsor or anything else? The issue is your excessively repeated posts about the same exact thing, not the thing itself. So please, say your story again if it makes you feel better, but unless you have anything new to add, please stop wasting everyone's time by repeating yourself.

have you ever heard the saying talk talk and then something will stick. Well that is what we are trying to do. We are trying nto put a stop at windsor and IUHS shady medical educations. If i can stop one person from going there and being had for his money i will do it 1000000000000 times. you know why>>>>>>> I CARE. Becasue when i needed someone to guide me no one was around. And i got had. I will not sit there and watch when someone looses their hard earned money and their time BC someone decides to lie to them. So if you dotn care about windsor and are just anoyed by us I apologise but is none of your buss. If you go at windsor and are trying to take everyone down becasue you are stuck there and wont leave maybe bc you are afraid, or maybe they wont give you your transcripts, or maye you belive in that theory that Windosr is a new school well that dont mean i have to sit and hear it. Windsor is older then MUA and look at them. great facilities great proffs real school. WInsor is a scam and i hope you dont know bc if you are there and you are posting this YOU WILL BURN IN ETERNAL DAMNATION for the sin of LYING........... LOL figured to make this sound a little too scary but i guess not..... Answer to me on the above questions how do you explain their lies. Read my post and please reply..................w

Just a small piece of info...MUA was opened by the owner of SABA. It is a public fact that SABA has been around for 15 yrs. The person who opened up MUA had a lot of experience and funding for the school. So, the comparison is ridiculous.

Geeta

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It's like talking to a wall?? I've never even mentioned Windsor except to say that I don't know either way whether it's good or bad, but I wouldn't take either of your (exiuhs and Japhethi) words for it. My point has nothing to do with Windsor, but the 2 of you are so obsessed with that school (well Japhethi is obsessed with many schools he attended) that you can't even understand that. I'll try, yet again, to make my point clear (which has NOTHING TO DO WITH WINDSOR), then it's up to you to acknowledge or ignore it, regardless of whether or not you agree with me.

Like many others, I'm trying to read through thousands of posts to obtain some info about different schools. Every forum has a couple of pissed of transfers who clutter the place up with garbage. [Now pay attention because this is the key phrase] But what makes it garbage is NOT the stories themselves, but the fact that they repeat them over and over again. We all appreciate that you've shared your stories, but please stop trying to shove it down our throats because at some point, we simply discard and ignore whatever it is your trying to repeat anyway.

As an example, a newcomer might read someone say such-and-such school is located on this island which has a certain population. Seems like a helpful unbiased fact. Then a transfer student who hates the school because they got screwed or whatever will jump in and say something about the island sucks! Ok, thanks for letting me know. But then I'll read another long post from the same person about how much the island sucks. Ok, thanks for the details. Then the same person again will bump every post they've ever written about the island sucks, plus write a couple more with the same info, but a slightly different twist, like the island sucks alot! Ok now, this person went overboard and I'll switch on the ignore button.

So a newcomer comes in to try to get info and all they see is the same pissed off persons posts about the island sucking. Besides wasting their time reading 50 different ways to say they think the island sucks, all it told us was that particular person thinks the island sucks. But of course the reader would be stupid to actually have been influenced to believe that the island actually sucks unless they experienced it for themselves or discovered it from their own independent and unbiased resources. If you keep repeating it over and over, it won't make it any more true or false.

To summarize, this has nothing to do with Windsor. People like Ex and Japhethi (and others in other forums) keep cluttering the forums with the same info over and over and do not add anything new. People like me are trying to obtain NEW info, but get annoyed by constantly rereading the same info over and over by the same people. We've all read your stories about the "scam school" and how you got screwed or whatever. Thanks for sharing. But unless you have anything new to add, please move on so we can all go about our research.

Am I explaining this wrong? How are you not getting what I'm saying? I don't care if you agree with me or not, I just want you to acknowledge what I've said instead of twisting it around for your chance to tell us for the millionth time about the scam school. I think a reply without the word Windsor would be a first step

I can see why you guys might have trouble learning since I've had to repeat myself a few time, and nothing I've even thrown in examples, metaphors, and other teaching aids to help you understand the concept. Great, now you've got me repeating myself

So, what other schools are you considering attending?

And, I did not know that one must post NEW info to post here. If so, you need to take your own advice.

Listen up Mr school owner/"whatever" .. I don't care no matter how many million schools you claim I have "transferred from". If you consider being a few weeks at a school and then withdrawing without eve taking a single exam a "transfer" then fine for you. I guess, anyone that ever contacts this madhouse for information is a "transfer" to you. Just keep on with your massive personal attacks. Did you know I also got accepted to St. georges and AUC, but chose not to go there? Did you also know I took a two-week plane pass and visited 5 other schools in the Caribbean? In your eyes, one should never question anything, but just fill up some school owners bank account and keep the eyes cloes. I have no problems with you waging a trenchwar here, but I won't be able to reply you more often than maximum once a day, so just be patient.

Since you came on the forum you have used all your 4 posts to bash, mainly me, but also others, like exiuhs. WHO is obsessed here?? Seems like YOU have a problem here and not us.. Speaking of incoherence and contradictions, look at your own rantings here.

1. You keep saying I say the island "sucks". Where have I said that?? Unlike YOU (??) I can distinguish between the beatiful Island of St. Kitts and a crappy fake school there (Since you have forbidden me from mentioning the name I will refrain from so). Show me ONE posting where I have said "the island sucks". JUST ONE!!! When I was living on Nevis I used to go to St. Kitts all the time. I have many friends there among the local people and I am even planning to go there for an elective rotation later on. get your facts straight. While I lived on Nevis I went to the St. Kitss music festival, toured Brimstone hill and of course went gambling at Frigate bay. I met a bunch of students that still were attending the school and guess what: Everybody said I "probably" did the right thing by transferring!!!

2. You spent 40 lines telling me how bad of a narrator I am and you yourself keeps repaeting over and over again the same things.. Who has a problem here?? If I did not have to answer to all the personal attacks and insults from people like you, I wouldn't need to post as much either, but I am not gonna let you use me as a punching bag,. I hit back if someone tries landing blows on me, (got it)??

3. You keep saying "This has nothing to do with the school", and that is your problem. You are obscessed with personal attacks and trying to paint me as a "troublemaker", yet you have NO answers whatsoever to the things we all have said about the school.

4. You tell me to "stop showing it down "our" throats".. Besides you and the moderator (again, big surprise), I have gotten nothing but positive messages and ,not the least, tons of questions from prospective students. I know several people have chosen to go elsewhere, maybe not only due to OUR information, but it certainly have helped. My mission has all the time been to avoid same things happening to others. You seem to have a problem with that.

5. You claim you are just trying to get information about the school. Well, then READ the forum!! I am sure there are tons of postings here from all happy students coming up with all new grounbreaking info, right?? The facts are easy to read. Unlike other forums, (Check out St. georges, Saba, AUC, MUA, Ross or any other one) this forum would have been almost dead if it weren't for former students telling the truths about the school.

One last thing, Why don't you stop calling us "transfers".. To be able to be called a "transfer" you should be able to bring some credits into the school you transfer to, right?? To be a "transfer" you should at least finish up a course, right?? To my knowledge no student ever has "transferred" from this place into any other school. I don't think anyone ever has mentioned that they spent time there as they applied to other schools. No school in the entire Caribbean would even THINK about accepting ANY credits from Windsor (oops, now I said it again), for the simple fact that it makes the school look very bad.

No, I am waiting for your 5th posting in a row of personal attacks.. Go on and keep telling me how ridiculous everybody that have left Windsor are. Likewise, go on and tell everybody how unsuccessfull we all are. I think even if we posted our schools, board scores and other successes, you would still keep on insisting how ridiculous we all are..

I've spent the past 4 posts trying to make a point which you're obviously not getting and I don't think you ever will, so I will not repeat it again. If you really want to try to understand what I'm trying to say, please read them more carefully. If not, there is nothing more I can say which I haven't said already (see, I'm agreeing to move on after making my point ).

BTW, I never said you think the island sucks, I clearly stated that it was an EXAMPLE (hypothetical) to illustrate a point, which you obviously missed.

So you were "transferring", but you're not a "transfer"??? Hmmm, did I miss something? I'm not so sure about the technicalities of a "transfer" student, but I was trying to use a term which describes a student who attended one school and then another. And again, I think it was used in my last post as a hypothetical example to illustrate my point, and not specifically about you . Sort of reminds me of the recent controversy about radio shows using the "offensive" term "illegal aliens" to describe aliens (foreigners) who are illegal (not legally registered). What were they thinking (disclaimer - this example is NOT meant to descibe you)? I guess it's all a matter of the persons' intentions, and mine were not malicious, so I apologize if you were offended by the term.

I've said my peace, so I'll just wish you and the others the best of luck in your careers and I'll move onto a different subject.

Nice try, but you have spent all your 4 posts with personal attacks upon me and not tried to explain any of the things I have said. If your implies about me having said "the island sucks" was only meant as a "hypothetical example" then why spend 10 lines repeating this over and over again?? Your whole message was that I said the island sucked, which is not the case.
You can't get away from that, but I am surprised you didn't bother to read all my posts before you jumped. I guess you were hoping I had said so..


Every time the Windsor owner/faculty dress up in new ID trying to pose as anything else than they aren't it looks as ridiculous as always. Be a man and use the same login..

hehe, move on where?? If you mean moving on from Windsor I can only be happy with you, hope that's what you mean..

Last time I checked, Philadelphia was one of the litigative-friendliest places. I am not paying a dime for this class-act, but you got to dish out my friend, just to stay allive..
Wouldn't it be easier to pick up the phone and give me an apology instead??

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