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    The ECFVG

    I am going through the ECFVG process now and wanted to post some info on my experiences. As a foreign veterinary school graduate (specifically Caribbean schools...St. George's, Ross, and St. Matthews), there are 2 options in order to be licensable in the USA (& Canada...I think).

    The first option is the PAVE...I didn't do this option and don't know much about it. PRO's of PAVE: Much less expensive, much less overall hassle/paperwork. CON's of PAVE: Only recognized in 23 states (not including Puerto Rico, VI, Utah because they're not official states or have special circumstances), as I understand it...PAVE may not qualify you for certain federal or state positions, PAVE certification may create obstacles for practicing internationally (or so I have heard). If you plan on practicing exclusively in a PAVE state...this is definitely the best option. I have heard of no obstacles with PAVE if you plan on going on with internships, residencies, M.S., Ph.D, or anything else.

    The second option is the ECFVG. I don't know where I want to practice and may be seeking state or federal employment...so the ECFVG is for me. PRO's of ECFVG: Once passed, your eligible for any job, anywhere as if you were a graduate from a north american vet school. CON's of ECFVG: Expensive @ about $8000 for testing/fees alone (not including travel), extremely inefficient and a greater overall time commitment, the clinical proficiency exam (CPE) which I will discuss later or in another post as I learn more, the Basic Sciences Clinical Exam (BSCE) which is a written test taken first.

    If you're doing the ECFVG, it is positively in your best interest to begin the process as early as possible AFTER completion of your 3rd year. So, while your moving to which ever school your going to, worrying about starting, and whatever else, you MUST also begin the process of registering for the BSCE. This is because you must pass the BSCE in order to begin registering for the CPE (don't forget the NAVLE also). The CPE is the rate limiting step of being a licensable veterinarian and starting your career. Rumors abound about students having to wait 6 months or more to get a CPE exam date at which time you are a graduated veterinarian who cannot work as a veterinarian because you have no license to practice. I don't yet know if these rumors are true...but I am getting closer and will post in this thread as I find out.

    So, I got all my stuff in to register for the BSCE and took it during the May testing window. I am generally a pretty good student (mostly B's) but was unsure of what to expect so I studied quite a bit. I reviewed almost every subject from years 1-3, took the BSCE practice exam from the website (only 15 questions but STRONGLY recommended as some questions were very similar), signed up for the Zuku Review daily email (STRONGLY recommended during year 3 and is FREE). I did not review pathology very thoroughly but focused on sm and lg animal medicine, anatomy, physiology, some pharm, epidemiology, and PUBLIC HEALTH...but still reviewed everything. Studied the A-Z guide. That's it and it worked for me because I passed the test. I did not sign up for any more comprehensive Zuku or Vet prep review but may consider for NAVLE prep (they're expensive).

    Remember, study everything...including, food animal (Small ruminant!!), equine, canine, feline, food animal AVIAN!

    I now need to pay $500 to request an application for the CPE, fill it out, and submit another $500 with the application to get a testing date. I will post more here as this process pans out.

    I have not started studying for the NAVLE yet, but this is the next big hurdle which must be taken by everyone no matter where you went to school. I will take this in November.

    Will post more later.....

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    Hi! I'm taking the BCSE in April too. Try zukureview.com It helps take the tension away and makes studying even fun. Good luck to us!


    Quote Originally Posted by phemmie View Post
    Hello I planned to settle for the ecfvg. from my findings I have to pay 1000k for registration 80 dollars for bcse exams at least that would take care of the 1st stage. However I do not have materials that focuses on the bcse only, as most of the reference materials are quite bogus to say the least. Please which materials in your opinion do you think i should get. I plan to write the bcse in april.

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    Hi dang_2000! Hopefully you did great on the BCSE. I graduated from UP too. What state are you in now? Cheers

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    Thanks very much for sharing your experiences.Good luck! I am anxious to hear how the rest of the process goes....

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    Hi everybody, I'm new to this forum. I just completed step 3 of the ECFVG (BCSE). I would like to share a little of my experience. When I began to prepare I had no idea where to start, since there is no study manual for this test. So I began to gather all the material I could. I began by signing up for the ZUKU free question of the day. After doing those questions for over a year, they really help, and some are very very similar to ones on the test. Another thing I did was study old NAVLE test questions, and in my case I was able to get copies of a lot of California board questions. I believe studying from questions is the way to go. When you're not sure about an answer, you look it up in a book or internet, and this is how you study.

    As for the test itself, it's a very straight forward multiple choice test. Some of the questions come off the practice test which can be done on the ECFVG website. Many of the questions can be answered with common sense. I found that many of the questions had more than one answer which seemed right, but there was always one that really popped out.

    You are given 4 hours to take the test, it thought it was more than enough time. I even had time to go back and check most of my answers again.

    I am now waiting for a test date for CPE, and I will keep posting as I go on.

    thanks.

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    Hi guys! you should all by now have passed your ECFVG!!! could I ask you more about the materials you study on please? especially for the BCSE and CPE. And when does the NAVLE need to be done?
    Thanks

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    Hi Tauron, how did your BCSE go? May I know what references did you used to prepare for the BCSE?

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    Hello,
    My name is Victor and I am preparing for my ECFVG. I do not know where to begin. I am open for any suggestion and willing to buy material.

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