Jack, you mention that the school will be offering courses via the internet. This counts as "correspondence", and eliminates your degree from consideration for licensure in the US. if the students choose the path of taking all basic science courses on campus, they should be OK.

Of course, here is the big, red flag that people should pay attention to.


Don't you think that as Presidente, you should give a huge amount of consideration to whether the students you recruit from the US would be able to get licensed? I think maybe you should figure out what YOU are talking about, don't you? G

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non-residental internet based correspondence medical school isn't a joke..it is consumer fraud against the chiropractors/podiatrists/dentists/nurses who think they can continue to work their jobs and attend this via the internet. And to we consumers it is a nightmare to possibly wake up on a gurney with someone attending them that doesn't have the same experience that normal medical schools, both offshore and onshore, have.

This isn't funny...it is potentially life threatening.

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Dear George:


If you would have taken time to do some research, before making SUBJECTIVE comments, then you would have known we OFFER the STUDENT the choice of doing at least (2) years on campus.

The only difference is we do not make it an OBLIGATION, it's up to the student and I have spelled that out CLEARLY and WITHOUT MALICE to any prospective student; the STUDENT should be aware of the TWO YEAR ON CAMPUS RULE if they feel this can and will be an issue in their future medical professions; BUT there is another world beyond the borders of where you live, george.

Any student that has requested information from us, has been made aware, if they intend to practice medicine in the USA, they may face the two years worth of credit onsite, provision that some states have in practice. But you already knew we informed everyone who writes us about this, right george?

In fact if the student wishes to spend the entire (4) years on campus that is perfect as well. Not eveyone who studies to be an M.D. wants to practice medicine, some want the satisfaction of accomplishment and people with your attitude destroy this feeling. You make them feel insignificant and unworthy.

Of course if you would have taken the time, to verify that our Institution has NO INTENTIONS of MISLEADING students about this subject, you would have clarified your comments, right george?

We welcome all constructive criticisim, but there are those who prefer to make generalizations that do not reflect the true purpose of ethical prinicipals, that we place in practice.

George, as an M.D., the use of scare tactics; is a practice, that I am proud to say shall not be offered in our curriculum, as your medical university seems to have trained you so well in, they and you, should be proud.

Best wishes,

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How/What to verify?

It is easy to verify that your med school does not have a charter and is not listed with either IMED or WHO.

Your website is under construction. Where else on the internet can we go to get more info?

I know you are trying hard to market your med school. You will need to show more before one can take your school seriously. After all, it involves over $150K and at least 4 to 7 years of one's life -- it will be sad at the end if the medical diploma turns out worthless.

DT:

You can write and ask. WHO and IMED listing takes time and yes we do have gov. charter.

Must be common to judge a book by its cover.


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Which government?

When do you expect your website to be fully informational?

And, it looks more like a pamphlet now, maybe later it will be a book?

Dear Jack,

If you do have a charter from a government, if this school has plan to be around for a while, and if you can answer questions, may I suggest that you contact the administrator(s) of valueMD and ask for your own forum to be set up. This way potential students can find out more and you wont be stuck in this isolated corner of valueMD.


Regards,

dt

You jump to conclusions, Jack. If you read my first post, you will see that I only address the correspondence portion of your school. I later said that if students attend class at the campus it should be fine. You certainly are defensive. I am not using "scare tactics", unless you consider warning people of problems scaring them. You can't even tell people if they can be licensed. Apparently, in your world, licensure is an act of god. Grow up, Jack. If you are going to advertise for a school, you really should get your ducks (like that better?) in a row. G

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Wow! I didn't know AUC offered "Scare Tactics" in the curriculum! Sign me up! :P

Predsidente,
Are they really scare tactics, or just the dissemination of information?
Why are you so defensive? Don't sweat it...I am sure there will be several uninformed people who will buy into your program "coming soon", but the truth is, with so many other established medical schools out there, there is no reason for a prospective student intent upon practicing medicine in the United States of America to venture losing time, effort, and money on an unproven commodity. Are you really catering your program "toward working adults, single parents, traveling salespersons, and others who have always dreamed of studying medicine but now have reached a certain age and may not have that opportunity."? Why? If I were a prospective medical student looking at an offshore school, I'd hope that the curriculum were designed to duplicate US curriculums and were geared towards the study and eventual PRACTICE of medicine and guarantee that I'd be able to practice in the states. At least you've given the opportunity to study "on site" for the two years of basic science in the country of the school's charter as many licensing boards will require, however I am not convinced that this represents enough of motivational force for anyone to attend a start-up venture (just my opinion, though...).
The users here who you feel threaten the legitimacy and validity of your school are just asking you the questions that many prospective students may have and/or not have contemplated before applying to your program...your actions and responses (as well as the degree of professionalism from the "President" of this new venture) are being carefully scrutinized. The onus of proof that your medical school is not a sham or a diploma mill is solely upon you.

Here are a few additional questions prospective students may want answers to:

• 1) What will tuition be?
  2) What will that tuition cover?
  3) Will there be a difference of tuition for those who choose your "non-traditional", internet based correspondance program versus those who attend basic sciences at your facility?
  4) What are the student's projected expenses and budget for the duration of their stay at Vanguard University?

I look forward to reading your reply.

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George:


Tortillas?


Best wishes,


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