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Micro Chat 8-2-05
08/2/05 12:36:03 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hey usmlear is here
08/2/05 12:36:09 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hi 08/2/05 12:36:09 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: hi bio 08/2/05 12:36:14 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: hi usmlear 08/2/05 12:36:15 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: hi everybody 08/2/05 12:36:19 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: hi 08/2/05 12:36:20 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: so gogo dto see u back 08/2/05 12:36:28 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: will u be coming regularly or still busy 08/2/05 12:36:31 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: sorry guys,i missed for few days 08/2/05 12:36:41 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: we have changed scheduleof micro everyday 20 pages of kaplan 08/2/05 12:37:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: 08/2/05 12:37:07 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: first 20 pages 08/2/05 12:37:10 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 12:37:13 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: who is gonna start 08/2/05 12:37:17 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes lets start guys 08/2/05 12:37:19 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 12:37:36 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ill start 08/2/05 12:37:40 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok 08/2/05 12:38:28 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: strustural diff b/w nucloid and plasmid then functional diff? 08/2/05 12:38:44 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: first structural 08/2/05 12:39:20 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: plasmid is extrachromosomal dna and fnction is it helps in cojugation , transfer of resistance , sometimes some exotoxins coated onit 08/2/05 12:39:39 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: nuc essential genetic material primer mrna etc 08/2/05 12:39:55 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: has dna rna protien 08/2/05 12:40:18 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt plasmid only dna,nuc=dna,rna,primers 08/2/05 12:40:52 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: what are polycistronic mrna? 08/2/05 12:41:09 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: where there r multile gentic codes for different proteins 08/2/05 12:41:11 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: codes for multiple proteins 08/2/05 12:41:11 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: nucleoid:The part of a bacterium or virus that contains nucleic acid and is analogous in function to the nucleus of a eukaryotic cell. 08/2/05 12:41:23 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: who have them? 08/2/05 12:41:25 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: monocistronic code for only one protein at a time 08/2/05 12:41:30 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: mrna which codes 4 many proteins 08/2/05 12:41:35 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt 08/2/05 12:41:40 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: r poly 08/2/05 12:41:46 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: bacteria and viruses 08/2/05 12:41:49 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: good everyone 08/2/05 12:41:59 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: next q 08/2/05 12:41:59 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: good 08/2/05 12:42:10 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: target for antibiotics? 08/2/05 12:42:21 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: cell wall? 08/2/05 12:42:24 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: cell wall synth 08/2/05 12:42:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: not specif question erum 08/2/05 12:42:32 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: protein synth 08/2/05 12:42:38 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: and 08/2/05 12:42:58 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ribosomes 08/2/05 12:43:01 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt 08/2/05 12:43:03 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: dna synth 08/2/05 12:43:21 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: what is selsctive and differrential media for cornybacterium diptheriae 08/2/05 12:43:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: full name i want 08/2/05 12:43:34 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: what is the clinical role of granules inside a bacteria 08/2/05 12:43:48 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: selec-loefflers diff - tellurite 08/2/05 12:43:56 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok sorry erum i interuppted 08/2/05 12:44:04 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: lofflers s,tellurite 08/2/05 12:44:14 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: storage 08/2/05 12:44:15 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: s=selective 08/2/05 12:44:21 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: erum answer is for storage in diptheria volutin grnaule for diagnosis 08/2/05 12:44:23 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 12:44:32 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt 08/2/05 12:44:41 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt erum and lange 08/2/05 12:44:50 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: identification of diptheria 08/2/05 12:44:56 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: good 08/2/05 12:45:04 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: next q erum 08/2/05 12:45:09 an_bo_al Logs in 08/2/05 12:45:14 Unregistered Logs in 08/2/05 12:45:16 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: name acellular organisms? 08/2/05 12:45:22 Unregistered Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 12:45:26 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: outer most layer od bcilus protestive cover? 08/2/05 12:45:28 an_bo_al Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 12:45:30 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: viruses 08/2/05 12:45:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: viruses prions for human infection 08/2/05 12:45:32 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: hi 08/2/05 12:45:37 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: and 08/2/05 12:45:43 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: viruses prions 08/2/05 12:45:55 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: hi 08/2/05 12:45:55 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: acellular particles? 08/2/05 12:46:01 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: also viriods 08/2/05 12:46:08 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: prions r not organism..these r proteins 08/2/05 12:46:12 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: but hey dont infect humans plants they infect 08/2/05 12:46:19 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes 08/2/05 12:46:21 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: infectious proyiens 08/2/05 12:46:30 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: outer layer of bacilus protective cover? 08/2/05 12:46:31 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: protiens 08/2/05 12:46:33 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt usmle ar question shoul dhave been aceelualr particles 08/2/05 12:46:35 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: u r correct 08/2/05 12:46:35 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt...also viroids 08/2/05 12:46:39 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes 08/2/05 12:46:47 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: i am sorry 08/2/05 12:46:51 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: poly glutamate 08/2/05 12:47:00 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: protein capsule 08/2/05 12:47:07 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: d plyglutamate erum 08/2/05 12:47:14 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: poly D-glutamate 08/2/05 12:47:26 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: erum next q 08/2/05 12:47:27 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: i mean the protective layer as in endospore 08/2/05 12:47:35 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ? 08/2/05 12:47:46 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok keratin and dipicolinate 08/2/05 12:47:51 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ca dipicolinate 08/2/05 12:48:02 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt 08/2/05 12:48:08 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok who is next 08/2/05 12:48:11 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: lange 08/2/05 12:48:14 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: u ask 08/2/05 12:48:27 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: then marko then malak 08/2/05 12:48:29 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: non immunogenic capsule in? 08/2/05 12:48:36 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: neseria men 08/2/05 12:48:44 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: sorry..I missed poly-D-glutamate polypeptide Q? 08/2/05 12:48:51 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok erum the specific type u tell 08/2/05 12:49:03 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: s.pyogens 08/2/05 12:49:06 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: strept pyogenes 08/2/05 12:49:11 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hey i have doubt here 08/2/05 12:49:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ? 08/2/05 12:49:26 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: type b 08/2/05 12:49:29 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: so is it only two organisms who capsule is no immunogenic 08/2/05 12:49:41 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes..rt erum 08/2/05 12:49:43 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: s. pyo 08/2/05 12:49:47 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: poly-D..is immuno or non-immuno? 08/2/05 12:50:13 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: it should be immuno becoz b cells can recognize protein 08/2/05 12:50:35 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt usmlear 08/2/05 12:50:58 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: lange asnwer me is it only tow organisms who have no n immunogenic capsule 08/2/05 12:51:04 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: ya it is immunogenic 08/2/05 12:51:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok..it has 2 forms..smooth (S) & rough(R)..R is avirulent 08/2/05 12:51:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes that is what is given in kaplan 08/2/05 12:51:21 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: bio 08/2/05 12:51:22 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: S is present is bacillus anthracis 08/2/05 12:51:38 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: but kaplan line says non immunogenic for all and then says except then give names of two organisms 08/2/05 12:52:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: which 2 org? 08/2/05 12:52:07 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: no no 08/2/05 12:52:13 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: same n menin and strep pyogen 08/2/05 12:52:22 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: see where the vaccunes are given 08/2/05 12:52:28 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: it says all imunogenic accept 08/2/05 12:52:33 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok 08/2/05 12:52:37 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: see for nessiria what is written 08/2/05 12:52:49 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: n mene type s and s pyo 08/2/05 12:52:53 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i will see later book is in library 08/2/05 12:52:56 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: then it will be clear 08/2/05 12:53:02 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok 08/2/05 12:53:05 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: next q 08/2/05 12:53:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: marko 08/2/05 12:53:22 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: marko your turn 08/2/05 12:53:31 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: what is nontypeable H. influenzae? 08/2/05 12:53:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 12:53:50 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: wht is content of metachromatic granules diptheria 08/2/05 12:53:56 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: who dont have antigens on surface or who lacks capsule 08/2/05 12:54:02 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: poly meta phosphate 08/2/05 12:54:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt..no cap 08/2/05 12:54:11 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: sulfur 08/2/05 12:54:13 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: good 08/2/05 12:54:17 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: cap absent 08/2/05 12:54:20 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: function? 08/2/05 12:54:26 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: marko what is it 08/2/05 12:54:40 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: poly meta phospahte? 08/2/05 12:54:41 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: lange is right 08/2/05 12:54:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok 08/2/05 12:55:01 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i though only fro recogn 08/2/05 12:55:14 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: function? 08/2/05 12:55:18 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: no idea 08/2/05 12:55:24 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: any1? 08/2/05 12:55:33 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: staining 08/2/05 12:55:37 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: no they have this poly meta phos and thoght to play some role in energy to cell 08/2/05 12:56:03 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: these r energy rich molecules 08/2/05 12:56:28 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: thanks amrko 08/2/05 12:56:30 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: right next 08/2/05 12:56:33 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok next 08/2/05 12:56:39 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: polymerisation of molecules and reduce osmotic press 08/2/05 12:57:19 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: marko u r putting question 08/2/05 12:57:21 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ? 08/2/05 12:57:49 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ????? 08/2/05 12:58:01 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok then i wll put what is the main organism reposible for acidis ph of vagina 08/2/05 12:58:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: lactobacillus 08/2/05 12:58:19 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: lacto 08/2/05 12:58:21 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bacillus 08/2/05 12:58:24 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: lactobacillus 08/2/05 12:58:28 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt good 08/2/05 12:58:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: 08/2/05 12:58:50 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: wht r clue cells? 08/2/05 12:58:58 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: what is differnece between DTP AND DTaP VACCINE 08/2/05 12:59:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: vagi. epi cells 08/2/05 12:59:19 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: clue ceel with bacteria sitting on epithelial cells 08/2/05 12:59:23 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ap is acellular 08/2/05 12:59:31 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: a cul shows high tirbidity but few org on gram stain what is the reason for high turbidity? 08/2/05 12:59:34 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: ok 08/2/05 12:59:41 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hye wait guys 08/2/05 12:59:41 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: these vagi epi. cells have stippled appearence 08/2/05 12:59:47 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: one by one 08/2/05 12:59:57 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: first answer clue cells 08/2/05 13:00:01 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ya i interrupted sorry 08/2/05 13:00:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: asso with genital tract infec 08/2/05 13:00:18 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: seen in bac vaginosis 08/2/05 13:00:29 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: it is bacteria sitting on epitheilial cells from cervical swab 08/2/05 13:00:34 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt lange 08/2/05 13:00:39 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: bac seen on surf of epi cells 08/2/05 13:00:43 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok 08/2/05 13:00:48 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: wht bacteria? 08/2/05 13:00:53 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: gardnerella vaginalis infx 08/2/05 13:00:53 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: erum u were correct 08/2/05 13:00:58 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:01:00 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: gardenella 08/2/05 13:01:04 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: good 08/2/05 13:01:04 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: marko 08/2/05 13:01:05 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: gardenella 08/2/05 13:01:05 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: gardenella 08/2/05 13:01:37 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: lange what was your question 08/2/05 13:01:39 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: ok now the turbidity 1 08/2/05 13:01:40 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: tricho.? 08/2/05 13:01:44 docmaina2004 Logs in 08/2/05 13:01:51 docmaina2004 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:02:04 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: its up there bio 08/2/05 13:02:04 docmaina2004 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 08/2/05 13:02:09 docmaina2004 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:02:19 docmaina2004 Logs Out 08/2/05 13:02:27 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: may be slide is n ot fixed properly i meand heated its guess 08/2/05 13:02:28 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: marko..whats your q?turbidity? 08/2/05 13:02:35 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: is it coz of break down of glycogen 08/2/05 13:02:37 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: no bio 08/2/05 13:02:43 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: no marko 08/2/05 13:02:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: no idea 08/2/05 13:02:50 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: mycolic acid 08/2/05 13:03:05 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: i say proteus 08/2/05 13:03:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: what can be prent that turbidity is high but organisms seen on gram stain less? 08/2/05 13:03:15 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: flagellus movement 08/2/05 13:03:18 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: turbidity..bec of some sediment?I didn't get the q? 08/2/05 13:03:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: no idea what is answer 08/2/05 13:03:36 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: it is due to presenceof spores 08/2/05 13:03:40 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: oh 08/2/05 13:03:42 graz Logs in 08/2/05 13:03:43 graz Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:03:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok lange 08/2/05 13:03:59 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:04:05 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: what is different between spores in bacteria and fungi? 08/2/05 13:04:06 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: spores of gard? 08/2/05 13:04:06 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: thanks lange 08/2/05 13:04:14 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: its ok 08/2/05 13:04:15 graz Disconnects 08/2/05 13:04:20 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: 08/2/05 13:04:36 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bact for protection nsurvivle fungi for division 08/2/05 13:04:43 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt 08/2/05 13:04:45 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: rt erum 08/2/05 13:04:52 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: tx 08/2/05 13:04:57 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes agree with erum 08/2/05 13:05:00 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: good erum 08/2/05 13:05:04 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: acid fast (+), mycobacteria (-), what's the organism? 08/2/05 13:05:12 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: nocardia 08/2/05 13:05:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: nocardia 08/2/05 13:05:17 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: nocardia 08/2/05 13:05:23 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: too easy 08/2/05 13:05:25 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: function of superantigens? 08/2/05 13:05:37 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: toxic shoc syndrome 08/2/05 13:05:45 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: enhanced immune response 08/2/05 13:05:47 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: anaphylaxis o 08/2/05 13:05:52 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: what mean by superantigen? 08/2/05 13:06:19 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: fast and explosive immune response 08/2/05 13:06:28 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: superag...indiscriminately activate T-cells of the immune system causing system-wide inflammation 08/2/05 13:06:45 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: rt 08/2/05 13:06:47 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i am gonna sk question to clear my doubt 08/2/05 13:06:53 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:06:54 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: call antigen..bec they produce ABs 08/2/05 13:07:09 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: induce the prod. of ABs 08/2/05 13:07:12 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: bind to mhc on one side tcr on other without binding to ag specific site 08/2/05 13:07:26 gewiner Logs in 08/2/05 13:07:33 gewiner Logs Out 08/2/05 13:07:46 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: if u have seen that question kaplan where they have told lag time is 10 minutes and total time 50 minutes what i s answer to that q 08/2/05 13:07:49 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt marko 08/2/05 13:08:07 gewiner Logs in 08/2/05 13:08:08 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: lag time..growth 08/2/05 13:08:08 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: it will double the quantity 08/2/05 13:08:12 gewiner Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:08:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: let me put it this way if total bacteria are 3 and lag time is 10 minute and gereation time is 20 minu what bacterai count after 50 08/2/05 13:08:49 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: 6 08/2/05 13:08:51 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: is it 12 answer 08/2/05 13:08:52 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: 27 *10(6) 08/2/05 13:08:54 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: no 4 times 08/2/05 13:09:02 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: 12 08/2/05 13:09:10 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt then 12 is wat i though 08/2/05 13:09:12 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: 12 08/2/05 13:09:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: oh..its 12 08/2/05 13:09:15 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: not 6 08/2/05 13:09:19 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bcuz 20 min is generation time and 10 is lag so it will double in 50 min 08/2/05 13:09:32 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: bec after 10 min..multiply by 4 08/2/05 13:09:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: 4 x3=12 08/2/05 13:09:43 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: there r two generationt ime of 20 eac from 3 it iwll becoem 6 then from 6 it will become 12 08/2/05 13:09:47 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: yes 08/2/05 13:09:48 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok 08/2/05 13:10:14 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: whi is puttin question now 08/2/05 13:10:17 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: an u put 08/2/05 13:10:34 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: memememee 08/2/05 13:10:37 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: already did 08/2/05 13:10:37 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ok 08/2/05 13:10:41 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: 08/2/05 13:11:13 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: who need cystine for growth? 08/2/05 13:11:21 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: y give hib vaccine to a new born but he develops no immunity why? 08/2/05 13:11:29 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: pasteurella , francsella brucella leginella 08/2/05 13:11:34 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ella sisters 08/2/05 13:11:34 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: good bio 08/2/05 13:11:41 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: rt erum 08/2/05 13:11:45 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: keratin 08/2/05 13:11:53 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: ther eis no hiv vvaccine 08/2/05 13:11:54 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: except bordtella 08/2/05 13:12:05 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: erum dotn u start again 08/2/05 13:12:21 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: now answer my q? 08/2/05 13:12:40 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: coz maternal antibodies interfere 08/2/05 13:12:47 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: no 08/2/05 13:12:57 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: oh 08/2/05 13:12:59 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: any one 08/2/05 13:13:00 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: t cell deficiency 08/2/05 13:13:06 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: newborn has no cell mediated immunity 08/2/05 13:13:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: agree 08/2/05 13:13:16 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: in beginning till 7-8 months 08/2/05 13:13:17 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt lange he has thymic aplasia 08/2/05 13:13:28 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: digeorge syndrome 08/2/05 13:13:28 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok 08/2/05 13:13:32 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: difference between pili & flagellum 08/2/05 13:13:43 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: pilli for adherence and flagellum for movement 08/2/05 13:13:48 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bcuz hib develop t cell dep immunity 08/2/05 13:13:57 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt..pili..glycoprot 08/2/05 13:14:08 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: agree w/ bio 08/2/05 13:14:18 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: good q erum 08/2/05 13:14:18 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes 08/2/05 13:14:19 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: name the antophagocytic factor in staphaureus and 08/2/05 13:14:23 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: tx 08/2/05 13:14:27 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: streptocossus pyogens 08/2/05 13:14:27 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: protein A 08/2/05 13:14:38 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: m protein in stept 08/2/05 13:14:46 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt 08/2/05 13:14:51 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: a protein and m 08/2/05 13:14:53 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: and coagulase? 08/2/05 13:14:54 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt 08/2/05 13:15:11 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: coagulase is enzyme 08/2/05 13:15:15 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: not antiphagocytic 08/2/05 13:15:25 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: who all posess iga protease 08/2/05 13:15:35 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: spore formation occur in which phase of growth cycle 08/2/05 13:15:37 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bact has no mitochondria then how do they metabilize 08/2/05 13:15:46 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: static phase 08/2/05 13:15:56 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: heamophillus,neisseria,strep pneumo 08/2/05 13:16:06 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: by enz on cell memb erum 08/2/05 13:16:07 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: yes 08/2/05 13:16:07 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: good unregis 08/2/05 13:16:17 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: good lange 08/2/05 13:16:19 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: mech of action of endotoxins? 08/2/05 13:16:35 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt lange 08/2/05 13:16:39 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: coagulase clots serum around itself ant prevents phagocytes from entering the site 08/2/05 13:16:40 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: it cuases relaease of IL1 tnf and IL6 from macrophages 08/2/05 13:16:46 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: induction of il 1 6 and tnf 08/2/05 13:17:04 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: tnf and il release 08/2/05 13:17:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: endo..LPS..activates macro-->TNF alpha,IL-1,6 08/2/05 13:17:20 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: RT EVERYBODY 08/2/05 13:17:22 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok name CAMP inducers? 08/2/05 13:17:38 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: so coagulase can b considered as antiphagocytic i didnt know thansk marko 08/2/05 13:17:45 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: vibrio etec 08/2/05 13:17:45 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: cholera 08/2/05 13:17:52 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: cholera 08/2/05 13:18:03 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: and? 08/2/05 13:18:09 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: vibrio, ETEC 08/2/05 13:18:14 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: pertusis 08/2/05 13:18:20 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: pertussis 08/2/05 13:18:23 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: and bacillus anthracis its edema factor 08/2/05 13:18:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: rt 08/2/05 13:18:53 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: antibiotics are most effective in which phase 08/2/05 13:18:59 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: how u differnetiate the action of pertusis from vibrio 08/2/05 13:19:11 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: log 08/2/05 13:19:12 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: cholera,anthrax ecoli,pertussis 08/2/05 13:19:23 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: yes 08/2/05 13:19:26 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: thx 08/2/05 13:19:37 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: pertusis inhibits g(I) unit 08/2/05 13:19:59 kyounus Logs in 08/2/05 13:20:04 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: by adp ribosylation 08/2/05 13:20:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt 08/2/05 13:20:37 kyounus Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:20:44 [USMLE_Step_1] kyounus: hi 08/2/05 13:20:51 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: who need factor 5 anf factor 10 for growth 08/2/05 13:21:00 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: HIB 08/2/05 13:21:01 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i meand NAD AND PROTOPORPHYRIN 08/2/05 13:21:02 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: adp ribosylation of gs-cholera,gi-pertussis 08/2/05 13:21:12 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt unregis 08/2/05 13:21:31 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hameophillus rt 08/2/05 13:21:39 ypoornima Logs in 08/2/05 13:21:40 ypoornima Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:21:41 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok target for action of pseudo toxin? 08/2/05 13:21:54 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: target tissue ? 08/2/05 13:22:01 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: adp robosylation by cholera 08/2/05 13:22:09 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: adp ribosulation of ef2 and inhibit protein synthesis in liver 08/2/05 13:22:13 ypoornima Logs Out 08/2/05 13:22:17 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: good 08/2/05 13:22:18 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: N. meningitis cap is not good immunogen still we use vacine..how? 08/2/05 13:22:31 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: cojugate to protein 08/2/05 13:22:32 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: they said type b is not immunigen 08/2/05 13:22:42 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: RT lange 08/2/05 13:22:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i have no diea about theses 08/2/05 13:22:46 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: inhibits ef 08/2/05 13:23:04 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: who all inhibts 60s ribosomal unit in humans 08/2/05 13:23:11 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: B serotype in 50% cases ..in USA 08/2/05 13:23:20 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: shiga toxin 08/2/05 13:23:22 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: nonimmuno 08/2/05 13:23:25 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: and 08/2/05 13:23:41 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: verocytotoxin 08/2/05 13:23:45 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: thank usml 08/2/05 13:23:56 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: urw 08/2/05 13:24:06 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: eiec 08/2/05 13:24:06 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: EHEC 08/2/05 13:24:12 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt lange 08/2/05 13:24:19 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: thanx 08/2/05 13:24:25 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: shiga ,ehecoli 08/2/05 13:24:30 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: gewiner no question today 08/2/05 13:24:33 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt erum 08/2/05 13:24:45 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: tx 08/2/05 13:25:14 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: selective media for v cholra? 08/2/05 13:25:21 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: TCBS 08/2/05 13:25:24 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: vib cholera 08/2/05 13:25:27 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: tcbs 08/2/05 13:25:28 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: rt 08/2/05 13:25:32 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: no mitochondria in --------------------? 08/2/05 13:25:36 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: Thisulfate citrate bilesalt sucrose 08/2/05 13:25:45 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: bacteria 08/2/05 13:25:47 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: bacteria 08/2/05 13:25:50 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: bacteria virus 08/2/05 13:25:59 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: rt 08/2/05 13:26:00 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: name cytolysins u know? 08/2/05 13:26:00 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: prokaryotes 08/2/05 13:26:09 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: name alla cid fast thing in icrobiology 08/2/05 13:26:40 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: myco bac nocadia oocyst of crypto n isispora and some spores 08/2/05 13:26:42 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: clostridium perfringens-alpha toxin 08/2/05 13:26:42 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: mycobacteria norcardia cryptococcus 08/2/05 13:26:58 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes unregistered what else? 08/2/05 13:27:03 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: clostridium perfringens has it all etc, staphsureums hemolysins, strepto pyogens leukocidins hemolyisns 08/2/05 13:27:22 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: good lange 08/2/05 13:27:31 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok thanx 08/2/05 13:27:32 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: good malak 08/2/05 13:27:32 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: whats the ans lange..cytolysins? 08/2/05 13:27:32 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: tb myco crypto 08/2/05 13:27:53 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: clostridium n staph aureus 08/2/05 13:27:55 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: myco is not acid fast erum 08/2/05 13:28:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: names? 08/2/05 13:28:19 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hey strepto pyogens also have it 08/2/05 13:28:32 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: myco tb is acid fast 08/2/05 13:28:38 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: why gm positive bacteria r gm positive 08/2/05 13:28:38 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes bio 08/2/05 13:28:40 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: it is like hemolysins leukocidins alpha lecithinase 08/2/05 13:28:45 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes 08/2/05 13:28:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok bio..thx 08/2/05 13:28:57 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: becoc z peptidoglycan layer the dye gets tangled 08/2/05 13:29:01 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: acid fast oocysts in stool-to diagnose isospora,and cryptospora inf in aids pts 08/2/05 13:29:13 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: where as in gram negative it is stuck in oute lipid layer washed off with alchol 08/2/05 13:29:21 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: rt unregis 08/2/05 13:29:24 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: in soluble iodine dye compex 08/2/05 13:29:41 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes agree to bio 08/2/05 13:29:56 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: right 08/2/05 13:30:06 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: oh erym i thought mycoplasma i am sorry 08/2/05 13:30:45 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: can Thayer Marthin be negative for Neisseria? 08/2/05 13:30:46 Unregistered Logs in 08/2/05 13:30:52 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: allright guys one hour over tomororw next 20 pages plus these previous ones , till geus mycobacterium 08/2/05 13:30:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: org. stained by Giemsa's? 08/2/05 13:31:04 Unregistered Logs Out 08/2/05 13:31:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: Thx everybody..nice chat.. 08/2/05 13:31:13 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: yes 08/2/05 13:31:21 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: an 08/2/05 13:31:24 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: how? 08/2/05 13:31:26 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: i dont knwo i thought thayer is selsctive for neisseria 08/2/05 13:31:29 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: if it is normal flora 08/2/05 13:31:34 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: hey wait 08/2/05 13:31:36 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: rt lange 08/2/05 13:31:37 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: Don't forget to check ANATOMY & BIOCHEMISTRY chat schedule 08/2/05 13:31:43 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: nonpathogenic ones 08/2/05 13:31:45 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: in chat forum 08/2/05 13:31:56 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: where usmlear? 08/2/05 13:31:58 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: if u collect fromnoraml flora then u do theyr maritn for neisseria 08/2/05 13:32:03 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: yes in normal flora 08/2/05 13:32:03 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: in chat forum 08/2/05 13:32:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: lange 08/2/05 13:32:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: on value md? 08/2/05 13:32:14 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: otherwise from steril itis choclate 08/2/05 13:32:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: starting from aug/8 08/2/05 13:32:23 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: yes 08/2/05 13:32:26 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok 08/2/05 13:32:45 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: usmlear what happened to patho caht? 08/2/05 13:32:51 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: allright bye guys 08/2/05 13:33:09 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: it was a good one today bye bio 08/2/05 13:33:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: erum..I thought..u guys done on last days? 08/2/05 13:33:15 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: tomorow next 20 pages till genus myco bacteria i mean mycobacteria included 08/2/05 13:33:22 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: bye for now 08/2/05 13:33:25 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:33:26 [USMLE_Step_1] lange: ok bio 08/2/05 13:33:27 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: bye bio 08/2/05 13:33:27 [USMLE_Step_1] malak93: thanks all 08/2/05 13:33:36 [USMLE_Step_1] an_bo_al: bye 08/2/05 13:33:49 [USMLE_Step_1] marko: bye 08/2/05 13:33:58 malak93 Logs Out 08/2/05 13:34:01 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: usmlear no discussion for 2 days 08/2/05 13:34:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: oh 08/2/05 13:34:24 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: its ok..we can reschedule path..after finishing ana & bio? 08/2/05 13:34:33 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:34:40 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: now micro.. 08/2/05 13:34:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: bio..your next chat is pharma? 08/2/05 13:35:08 Unregistered Logs in 08/2/05 13:35:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: we can devote 1 hr each day 08/2/05 13:35:19 Unregistered Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 08/2/05 13:35:46 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: any suggestions? 08/2/05 13:35:47 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: yes 08/2/05 13:35:56 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: next is pharmac 08/2/05 13:35:59 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: after micro 08/2/05 13:36:10 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: but usmlear ther is discussion of 08/2/05 13:36:41 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: kap q bank for chapter cell to circulation form kaplan q bank physio whole part 1 physio kaplan book 08/2/05 13:36:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: on aug 9 08/2/05 13:36:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: yes..no prob for that 08/2/05 13:37:08 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: guys could u plese tell me tommorows portion of micro chat,shud we read from any other 08/2/05 13:37:11 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ana & bio r at different time.. 08/2/05 13:37:18 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: or kaplan 08/2/05 13:37:35 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: its from kaplan 08/2/05 13:37:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: next 20 pages till genus mycobacteria 08/2/05 13:37:51 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: includes mycobacteria 08/2/05 13:37:54 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: ok 08/2/05 13:38:07 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: from page no. 08/2/05 13:38:20 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: staph chapter 08/2/05 13:38:29 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: for micro..we r meeting at 1.30,for ana..10.00am,for bio..8.00pm..so whoever intereseted anytime..can join..according to their schedule 08/2/05 13:38:59 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: genus staph to genus myco 08/2/05 13:39:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 13:39:11 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: ok thanku 08/2/05 13:39:28 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: meas staph strepto baciallus listeria crny nocardia myco 08/2/05 13:39:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: thanks everybody 08/2/05 13:39:42 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: thanks everyone 08/2/05 13:39:43 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: yah,understood 08/2/05 13:39:44 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: bye 08/2/05 13:39:47 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: meet tomorrow 08/2/05 13:39:49 [USMLE_Step_1] Unregistered: bye 08/2/05 13:39:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: Bye 08/2/05 13:40:12 marko Logs Out 08/2/05 13:40:19 [USMLE_Step_1] bioche2006: bye 08/2/05 13:40:28 bioche2006 Logs Out 08/2/05 13:40:41 lange Logs Out 08/2/05 13:41:08 kyounus Logs Out 08/2/05 13:41:23 Unregistered Logs Out 08/2/05 13:44:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: erum..u r coming for ana & bio? 08/2/05 13:44:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: *beep* 08/2/05 13:44:31 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: i have to check the schedual 08/2/05 13:44:35 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok 08/2/05 13:44:43 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: when is it satarting 08/2/05 13:44:51 [USMLE_Step_1] gewiner: ok 08/2/05 13:44:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: both chat schedules r posted in forum 08/2/05 13:44:55 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: why did y stop patho in the middle 08/2/05 13:44:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: from aug/8 08/2/05 13:45:03 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: coming Monday 08/2/05 13:45:14 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: I didn't stop path.. 08/2/05 13:45:29 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: it was confusion from the begining.. 08/2/05 13:45:43 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: correlation with physio or 1 topic a day.. 08/2/05 13:45:54 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: anyway..we can finish that after ana & bio now 08/2/05 13:46:01 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok 08/2/05 13:46:07 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ill try 08/2/05 13:46:12 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: thx 08/2/05 13:46:29 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: check the schedule..if any suggestion,pl. let me know 08/2/05 13:46:38 [USMLE_Step_1] gewiner: ok 08/2/05 13:46:55 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: ok..thx everybody 08/2/05 13:47:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmlear: see you all later..bye 08/2/05 13:47:13 [USMLE_Step_1] erum: ok bye 08/2/05 13:47:18 usmlear Logs Out 08/2/05 13:47:20 [USMLE_Step_1] gewiner: ok bye |
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