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chat transcript - behavioral science - dsm IV
01/21/05 20:05:36 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: hi lenhoxung
01/21/05 20:05:50 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: Hi Usmle guy 01/21/05 20:05:58 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: How u doing today? 01/21/05 20:06:06 bhupender Logs in 01/21/05 20:06:07 clover Logs in 01/21/05 20:06:07 clover Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 20:06:10 ayesh Logs Out 01/21/05 20:06:14 bhupender Logs Out 01/21/05 20:06:16 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: hey everyone 01/21/05 20:06:38 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: wow, is there another chat going on?? 01/21/05 20:06:48 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: Our toipic today are DSM IV n psychopharmacology 01/21/05 20:07:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Hi everybody 01/21/05 20:07:52 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i can see a bunch of others. are they in another room or what? 01/21/05 20:08:12 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I think they started chats for step 2 also 01/21/05 20:08:27 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: with Lorena, but she wont make it till monday, that's what she told me 01/21/05 20:09:01 mjl1717 Logs Out 01/21/05 20:09:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Did everybody finished reading for today 01/21/05 20:09:07 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: something to look forward to as soon as we all get passed step 1 01/21/05 20:09:17 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yeah 01/21/05 20:09:59 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i read through most of it 01/21/05 20:10:15 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i also read it over once 01/21/05 20:10:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I think 8pm EST it's a good time, except for saturdays when we may have meetings 01/21/05 20:11:41 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: is there a better time you prefer? 01/21/05 20:11:51 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Guys I am sorry about my absence, I wanted to start this time so bad but family problems made me left 01/21/05 20:12:23 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but now I am back in my place, in US and you can count on me for anything you may need ok? 01/21/05 20:12:31 mick Logs in 01/21/05 20:12:51 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: on saturday maybe from 1pm to 3pm, is that ok? 01/21/05 20:13:12 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what do you think guys? 01/21/05 20:13:13 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i hope everything is fine with your family 01/21/05 20:13:18 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: That is fine 01/21/05 20:13:37 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Thank God it is, my father is safe now, thank you clover 01/21/05 20:13:57 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: so saturdays can be at 1pm EST? 01/21/05 20:14:08 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: ok 01/21/05 20:14:27 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: thats ok with me too. i hope that the others will know for tomorrow. i know that zoya cant make it today, so i will write her a pm to let her know 01/21/05 20:14:39 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: If everybody doesn't Kaplan Videos you should check webprep, they have this part for today good explained in the webprep 01/21/05 20:14:57 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: thank you usmle_guy 01/21/05 20:15:04 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: doesn't have 01/21/05 20:15:37 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Shall we start? 01/21/05 20:15:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I didn't finished reading but I can follow you guys, is that ok? 01/21/05 20:15:56 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sure 01/21/05 20:16:02 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *beep* 01/21/05 20:16:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am gonna post the transcript ok 01/21/05 20:16:32 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: sure 01/21/05 20:16:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: For today we have 01/21/05 20:16:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: DSM IV 01/21/05 20:17:00 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: roxy, if you write to doc, he can have the transcripts automatically emailed to you each day 01/21/05 20:17:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok thanks 01/21/05 20:17:57 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: which axis includes personality disorders and mental retardation? 01/21/05 20:18:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: How many axis do we have to clasify the diagnosis? 01/21/05 20:18:17 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: axis 2 01/21/05 20:18:18 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: ́́ 01/21/05 20:18:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that is Axis II, also Mental Retard is there 01/21/05 20:18:31 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that is important 01/21/05 20:18:33 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, all correct 01/21/05 20:18:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what about just physical diagnosis? 01/21/05 20:18:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: like a Flu 01/21/05 20:18:57 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: 3 01/21/05 20:19:01 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 3 01/21/05 20:19:03 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: correct 01/21/05 20:19:07 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 3 01/21/05 20:19:25 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I wonder if all doctors in 01/21/05 20:19:44 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: good question 01/21/05 20:19:51 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: what about clinical disorders like schizo, affective, anxiety, etc? 01/21/05 20:19:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what about a retired soldier who was in the war,. what axis should we include him? 01/21/05 20:20:00 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: 1 01/21/05 20:20:02 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: all that is in Axis I 01/21/05 20:20:10 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 1 for usmleguy 01/21/05 20:20:27 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *choochoo* 01/21/05 20:20:30 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, correct 01/21/05 20:20:40 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what about my answer? for the soldier 01/21/05 20:20:41 spice Logs in 01/21/05 20:20:42 spice Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 20:20:44 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: love those sounds 01/21/05 20:20:51 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 4 01/21/05 20:21:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Good! 01/21/05 20:21:26 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: is it 4 because of the psycho social stuff? 01/21/05 20:21:32 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: also, divorced, people survived from disasters etc 01/21/05 20:21:57 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Can anybody explain the GAF? 01/21/05 20:22:15 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: The GAF Score? 01/21/05 20:22:30 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: global assessment of functioning on scale of 1 to 100 01/21/05 20:22:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok 01/21/05 20:22:57 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: in GAF we should consider 2 values 01/21/05 20:23:04 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: 100 is superior funtioning 01/21/05 20:23:11 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 100= superior function, 50=serious symtoms, 10=danger of hurting self and others 01/21/05 20:23:18 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: right 01/21/05 20:23:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 1) the highest level in the last year and 2) the current level 01/21/05 20:24:03 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: x.e. Current= 35 and Highest= 40 01/21/05 20:24:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what kind of problem is that, acute or chronic? 01/21/05 20:24:56 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: or if....Current= 25 and Highest in the year= 90 01/21/05 20:25:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sounds chronic since over the last year 01/21/05 20:25:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: for the first one right? 01/21/05 20:25:12 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: the second is acute 01/21/05 20:25:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Good 01/21/05 20:25:26 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: agree 01/21/05 20:25:39 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: what is the most common cause of mental retardation? 01/21/05 20:25:54 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: FAS 01/21/05 20:25:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: fas, 2nd most common is downs 01/21/05 20:26:00 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: rt 01/21/05 20:26:06 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: by large the most common cause in US 01/21/05 20:26:18 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep 01/21/05 20:26:30 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: Fragile X syndrom 01/21/05 20:26:44 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep fragile x also common 01/21/05 20:26:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: talking abour M.R. .... what a mild M.R. can do by himself? 01/21/05 20:27:14 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: self supporting 01/21/05 20:27:22 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: support themselves 01/21/05 20:27:26 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 85% of cases 01/21/05 20:27:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: If in the exam they mention a pt. with mental retardation what level should you use think they are referring to? 01/21/05 20:28:03 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: clover you just gave the answer 01/21/05 20:28:07 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: since 85% of cases are mild, i guess that would be the case 01/21/05 20:28:12 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: mild level 01/21/05 20:28:13 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: oops 01/21/05 20:28:17 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: it's mild, right usmle-guy 01/21/05 20:28:29 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *choochoo* 01/21/05 20:28:38 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: lol 01/21/05 20:28:50 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: can a mild M.R. be an actor? 01/21/05 20:29:21 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: arent most of them lol 01/21/05 20:29:33 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and as most of diseases is more common in males 2 times as much 01/21/05 20:29:47 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 20:30:02 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i guess yes, but probably hard to learn the lines 01/21/05 20:30:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: which kind of M.R. can work in factories but soft works 01/21/05 20:30:46 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: moderate 01/21/05 20:30:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Daugherty mention an actor "Benny" who was mild m.r. 01/21/05 20:30:58 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i think mild, maybe moderate also?? 01/21/05 20:31:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: good lenhoxung 01/21/05 20:31:12 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yup usmle_guy 01/21/05 20:31:28 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and what about severe and profound? 01/21/05 20:31:51 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: not trainable 01/21/05 20:31:56 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: uhu 01/21/05 20:32:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and profound just need constant watching 01/21/05 20:32:23 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: severe can learn to communicate, basic habits 01/21/05 20:32:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but profound is the smallest group in m.r. 01/21/05 20:32:53 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: are most autistic pts male or female? 01/21/05 20:32:54 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok, who wants to do AUtism? 01/21/05 20:33:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: male, as always 01/21/05 20:33:10 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i keep reading your mind roxy 01/21/05 20:33:15 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: HOw about IQ for each groups? 01/21/05 20:33:22 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: male 01/21/05 20:33:23 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Oops 01/21/05 20:33:43 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's important too lenh 01/21/05 20:33:58 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep male 3-4:1 01/21/05 20:34:22 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: which has IQ of 70-50? 01/21/05 20:34:31 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: mild 01/21/05 20:34:42 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: <20 --> 20-34 --> 35-49 --> 50-70 01/21/05 20:34:51 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: mild 01/21/05 20:34:57 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes mild is correct 01/21/05 20:35:05 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: agre e with roxanita 01/21/05 20:35:47 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes also agree that would be profound, severe, moderate, mild as rox wrote it 01/21/05 20:36:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: PDD, what's that? 01/21/05 20:36:30 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: Pervasive development disorder 01/21/05 20:36:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: PDD, Axis I for AUtism 01/21/05 20:36:49 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: aka, autism 01/21/05 20:37:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: why it is diagnosed at 30 months in infancy? 01/21/05 20:38:04 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: from 2 to 2,5 years? 01/21/05 20:38:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Mr Daugherty says "Lack of pointing" ? 01/21/05 20:38:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: What is the main problem in Autism? 01/21/05 20:38:42 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: because no separation anziety, abnormal delayed language development, etc which can only be seen at age when they start to interact with others 01/21/05 20:39:12 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: then we should be able to detect it even before when separation anxiety is supossed to show up 01/21/05 20:39:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: when does separation anxiety occur guys, remember? 01/21/05 20:39:49 huli72 Logs Out 01/21/05 20:40:27 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: before 12 months i think 01/21/05 20:40:49 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok it appears from 8 to 12 months, this is a pearl for the bathroom 01/21/05 20:40:55 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: just kidding 01/21/05 20:40:57 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: starts between 8 and 12 months and disappears by 20-24 mon 01/21/05 20:41:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: wow, thanks usmle_guy 01/21/05 20:41:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok, so in autism the main problem is? 01/21/05 20:41:38 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: we just covered that yesterday, so still fresh in my mind 01/21/05 20:41:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: great 01/21/05 20:42:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *choochoo* 01/21/05 20:42:05 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: oblivious to external world 01/21/05 20:42:26 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: problems with social interaction 01/21/05 20:42:51 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok that's a good point in Autism, they get very upset when some small detail in their environment changed, that's funny 01/21/05 20:43:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Has anybody seen "Rain man" that's a good one to understand this problem 01/21/05 20:43:51 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, good movie 01/21/05 20:43:54 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: with Dustin Hoffman 01/21/05 20:44:07 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep, so he had autism? 01/21/05 20:44:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Oblivious ok 01/21/05 20:44:37 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yes he had autism, you could not change the schedule or stuff around him or he would turn upset, remember 01/21/05 20:45:09 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, its been a while since i've seen the movie, but i remember 01/21/05 20:45:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Are they Mental retarded? 01/21/05 20:45:46 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 80 percent are 01/21/05 20:45:57 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: most yes 01/21/05 20:46:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: how would you classified with the DSM a pt with autism? 01/21/05 20:46:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Axis I? 01/21/05 20:46:29 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Axis II? 01/21/05 20:46:39 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: autism for axis I 01/21/05 20:46:43 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: 1 01/21/05 20:47:02 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: mental retarded if that is the case for axis II 01/21/05 20:47:16 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Axis I= Autism right and Axis II= M.R. 01/21/05 20:47:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right 01/21/05 20:47:27 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: agre 01/21/05 20:47:36 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: rt 01/21/05 20:47:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: it is associated with some prenatal infection which is? 01/21/05 20:48:04 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: rubella 01/21/05 20:48:12 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: rubella 01/21/05 20:48:19 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 1st tri 01/21/05 20:48:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Daugherty also mentioned the theory of lack of Secretin and the therapy with this but it's not verified, so forget about it 01/21/05 20:49:07 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: let's see the IQ of Rain Man, what would you put for him as an IQ? 01/21/05 20:49:58 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: he only got 1 skill right, count memory 01/21/05 20:49:59 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: tough one since he had the mathematical abilities that were incredible 01/21/05 20:50:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but other than that he is a M.R. 01/21/05 20:50:23 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: but probably moderate 01/21/05 20:51:06 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i agree, definitely had MR 01/21/05 20:51:14 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Daugherty described this as a glass which only got 1 strong little side and the rest is very weak, we can't describe it as a strong glass just because that small side 01/21/05 20:51:27 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: got it? 01/21/05 20:51:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: good analogy 01/21/05 20:51:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that was a good comparison isn't it, great Daugherty 01/21/05 20:51:47 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep 01/21/05 20:51:55 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: listen web prep guys 01/21/05 20:52:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: which chrom is it linked to? 01/21/05 20:52:26 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 15 01/21/05 20:52:27 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 15 01/21/05 20:52:41 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, correct 01/21/05 20:53:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: fiftism, I know it's silly but anything works for me 01/21/05 20:53:45 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i'll try it out. i heard he's great 01/21/05 20:53:59 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: whenver we got a pt with M.R. we should always classify it 01/21/05 20:54:09 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: same with AUtism 01/21/05 20:54:29 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: as mild, mod, sev or prof, don't forget guys 01/21/05 20:54:44 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: http://www.kaplanlogin.com/usmlestep...ain_frame_.cfm 01/21/05 20:54:59 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am sure everybody has it, but just in case 01/21/05 20:56:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *choochoo* 01/21/05 20:56:32 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: wow, cool. i didnt have it. thanks 01/21/05 20:56:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: wake up guys *choochoo* 01/21/05 20:56:51 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's what friends are for 01/21/05 20:56:53 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: hehe, that woke me up lol 01/21/05 20:57:06 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok now we continue with ADHD 01/21/05 20:57:32 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Attention Deficit hyperactivity disorder 01/21/05 20:57:50 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: again more common in males 01/21/05 20:58:09 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 10% of lower class males and 5% in fem 01/21/05 20:58:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *beep* 01/21/05 20:58:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what is the ratio male to female in ADHD? 01/21/05 20:58:44 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 10:1 01/21/05 20:58:52 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 10 to 1 01/21/05 20:59:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and it's more common in first born males, why? 01/21/05 20:59:06 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right guys 10/1 01/21/05 20:59:27 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: not sure why? 01/21/05 20:59:31 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: when is more often to be diagnosed and who reports this? 01/21/05 20:59:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: What is the treatment? 01/21/05 20:59:54 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: do teachers report it most often? 01/21/05 21:00:00 strug Disconnects 01/21/05 21:00:05 strug Logs in 01/21/05 21:00:05 strug Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:00:05 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: methelphenadate (ritalin) 01/21/05 21:00:08 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's right 01/21/05 21:00:20 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: also pemoline, amphetamines 01/21/05 21:00:22 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: the treatment are amphetamines why? 01/21/05 21:01:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: can you confuse with some other problem that is also common in children? 01/21/05 21:01:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: the theory is that the kids are disruptive because mind is not aroused at normal level. amphetamine helps to arouse them to normal 01/21/05 21:01:31 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's right 01/21/05 21:02:02 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: its kinda a paradox to give a stimulant to "calm" a child :/ 01/21/05 21:02:14 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: the children do the self stimulation to keep them awake, increase sensory input 01/21/05 21:02:38 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: if you give them stimulants they wont have to do it themself 01/21/05 21:02:56 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: never saw it that way, good way to look at it 01/21/05 21:03:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: their amphetamines are running around like crazy 01/21/05 21:03:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but if you miss the DX with an overactive child, what would happen? 01/21/05 21:03:54 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: some carry on to adult form of ADHD 01/21/05 21:04:03 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: this overactive child will Speed up even more 01/21/05 21:04:10 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's how you can differentiate both 01/21/05 21:04:23 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yeah I know some 01/21/05 21:04:35 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: oh, you mean giving an overactive child amphetamines?? oh my 01/21/05 21:05:02 mehr Logs in 01/21/05 21:05:02 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: if we confuse the diagnosis because both can have similar clinic 01/21/05 21:05:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: disrupts more than one setting of childs life 01/21/05 21:05:27 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: so amphetamines is the key to be sure is one of them 01/21/05 21:06:07 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: how do you differentiate? is it with amphetamines? 01/21/05 21:06:38 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: you use amphetamines when you are not sure 01/21/05 21:06:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: poor kids though 01/21/05 21:07:01 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: relatively new drug called strattera is first FDA approved non-stim for adhd 01/21/05 21:07:25 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Strattera huh 01/21/05 21:07:34 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: thanks, I didn't know that 01/21/05 21:07:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Guys are we going too slow 01/21/05 21:07:50 lanny Logs in 01/21/05 21:08:00 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: it works selectively on certain area so that it doesn't stimulate or give all the other side effects. looks promising for adult adhd, not sure about kids yet 01/21/05 21:08:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Anybody can continue, do questions and we could speed up like the overactive child 01/21/05 21:08:33 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Uhm, good information 01/21/05 21:08:35 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: let me get my ampethamines and i'll be ready lol 01/21/05 21:09:08 lanny: so how do we proceed.pose uestions 01/21/05 21:09:13 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am full time student and have all the time of the world but if somebody wants to speed up and put questions it would be great guys 01/21/05 21:09:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: *evil* 01/21/05 21:09:48 lanny Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:09:55 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *meow* 01/21/05 21:10:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i'm not full time student, so need to go by 10 latest, but the speed is fine as long as we are all learning 01/21/05 21:10:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: you woke me up 01/21/05 21:10:34 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: we can do it faster ok 01/21/05 21:10:52 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: if sleeping, that evil laugh can give nightmares 01/21/05 21:11:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: just put your questions and doubts whenever you want guys, I don't want this to be a monopoly or a monologue 01/21/05 21:11:01 mehr Disconnects 01/21/05 21:11:16 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but you put it usmle_guy 01/21/05 21:11:31 huli72 Logs in 01/21/05 21:11:34 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok, now 01/21/05 21:11:37 huli72 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:11:41 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: SCHIZOPHRENIA 01/21/05 21:11:49 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i know, but you said it woke you up. so i made that comment 01/21/05 21:12:03 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yup 01/21/05 21:12:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Criteria for Schizophrenia? *choochoo* 01/21/05 21:12:40 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: dellusions, hallucinations, illusions 01/21/05 21:12:53 sanz Logs Out 01/21/05 21:13:00 nalini Logs Out 01/21/05 21:13:20 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: bixare dellusions, auditory hallucinations, loose associations, 01/21/05 21:13:34 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: good 01/21/05 21:13:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: why not visual hallucinations? 01/21/05 21:13:54 [USMLE_Step_1] lenhoxung: blunted affect 01/21/05 21:13:55 huli72 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_3 01/21/05 21:13:57 [USMLE_Step_2] lanny: what do you mean,is 6-8 central time not 9-11 eastern time 01/21/05 21:14:02 huli72 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:14:14 huli72 Joins Subroom Clinical_Skills 01/21/05 21:14:20 samsung68 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_3 01/21/05 21:14:25 huli72 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:14:28 strug Logs Out 01/21/05 21:14:46 huli72 Logs Out 01/21/05 21:14:52 samsung68 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:15:02 samsung68 Logs Out 01/21/05 21:15:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok not visual b/c it can be confused with other physical disorders, or drug intake 01/21/05 21:15:17 crengy Logs Out 01/21/05 21:15:19 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i guess the step 2 chat is over because people are all leaving now 01/21/05 21:15:38 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yeah but it shouldn't appear in our chat 01/21/05 21:15:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: nice music though each time someone leaves 01/21/05 21:15:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ja ja 01/21/05 21:16:10 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Differential Dx? 01/21/05 21:16:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: for Schizophrenia? 01/21/05 21:16:34 mick Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:16:52 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: i just realized after an hour that i was in the wrong chat room 01/21/05 21:17:10 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: haha, welcome mick 01/21/05 21:17:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Schizophreniform and also Brief Psychotic Disorder 01/21/05 21:17:34 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Mick *welcome* 01/21/05 21:17:49 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: nice voice roxanita 01/21/05 21:18:16 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: how do you differentiate Schizophrenia from Schizophreniform? *beep* 01/21/05 21:18:28 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 21:18:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: the time. i think that schizophenia is over 6 months 01/21/05 21:18:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Wake up guys... *choochoo* 01/21/05 21:19:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Good 01/21/05 21:19:03 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: agree 01/21/05 21:19:28 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and what about Brief Psychotic disorder? 01/21/05 21:19:32 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: so really, every schizophrenic had schizophreniform at some point....right? 01/21/05 21:19:45 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: is that less than 1 month rox> 01/21/05 21:19:57 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Schizophreniform can be due to drugs intake and is often self limited 01/21/05 21:20:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right Clover 01/21/05 21:20:57 lanny Leaves Subroom 01/21/05 21:21:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: often early onset in males or females? 01/21/05 21:21:15 lanny Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:21:19 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: is brief psychotic under 24 hrs 01/21/05 21:21:22 lanny Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_3 01/21/05 21:21:30 lanny Logs Out 01/21/05 21:22:26 cyrus1345 Logs in 01/21/05 21:22:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: men 01/21/05 21:23:09 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: good 01/21/05 21:23:11 cyrus1345: hi this is Nasi 01/21/05 21:23:23 cyrus1345: is there anybody there? 01/21/05 21:23:32 cyrus1345 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:23:59 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what about suicide, is that common in schizophrenia 01/21/05 21:24:15 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yes 01/21/05 21:24:26 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 50% 01/21/05 21:24:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and how many get to succeed? 01/21/05 21:24:56 cyrus1345 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:24:59 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: 10% 01/21/05 21:25:18 cyrus1345 Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:25:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Lets talk about Genetic here... 01/21/05 21:25:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Rates for MZ = 47% 01/21/05 21:25:58 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: DZ= 13% 01/21/05 21:26:17 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: so the Heritability Index will be? 01/21/05 21:26:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: H.I. = (MZ-DZ)/ (100-DZ) 01/21/05 21:26:47 uhm Logs in 01/21/05 21:26:58 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 40% 01/21/05 21:27:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: so 40% of Schizophrenia is due to inheritance 01/21/05 21:27:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: if 2 Schz parents= 40% incidence 01/21/05 21:27:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: is that right? 01/21/05 21:27:54 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: and 1% prevalence world wide....that amazing 01/21/05 21:28:22 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, thats right 01/21/05 21:28:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 12% one parent or sibling 01/21/05 21:28:56 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: wow, more common than i ever thought 01/21/05 21:29:15 lanny Logs in 01/21/05 21:29:22 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i guess having an imaginary friend is not all that uncommon after all 01/21/05 21:29:26 uhm Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:29:48 uhm Logs Out 01/21/05 21:31:04 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: sorry went to the bathroom 01/21/05 21:31:32 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: during rotations i interviewed a schizophrenic who claimed to be "Jesus christ". the h&p date of birth read dec 25 0000, age, a little over 2000 yrs old 01/21/05 21:31:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 21:32:30 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sounds like that person had a few issues other than just schizophrenia 01/21/05 21:32:40 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 21:33:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what about Schizophrenogenic family? 01/21/05 21:33:08 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: *choochoo* 01/21/05 21:33:33 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: very critical, negative 01/21/05 21:33:42 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: double messages 01/21/05 21:34:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: those parents who send double messagge...the children are more likely to have SCHIZOID PERSONALITY DISORDER 01/21/05 21:34:31 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: imagine a holiday get together at that family place....i thought i had it bad 01/21/05 21:35:07 nalini Logs in 01/21/05 21:35:08 nalini Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:35:50 nalini Logs Out 01/21/05 21:36:06 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok now let's talk about the subtypes... quick 01/21/05 21:36:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I put the subtype and you describe 01/21/05 21:36:41 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: ok 01/21/05 21:36:43 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: PARANOID... 01/21/05 21:36:48 nalini Logs in 01/21/05 21:37:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: delusions of persecution or delusions of granduer 01/21/05 21:37:23 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: hallucinations 01/21/05 21:37:32 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: older onset 01/21/05 21:37:38 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: older onset 01/21/05 21:37:44 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: agree 01/21/05 21:37:47 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right compare to the rest subtypes 01/21/05 21:38:09 cyrus1345 Logs Out 01/21/05 21:38:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but less regression of mental capacity 01/21/05 21:38:18 nalini Logs Out 01/21/05 21:38:29 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what defense mechanism do we have here? 01/21/05 21:38:36 lanny Logs Out 01/21/05 21:39:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: since they have hallucinations (voices) ... Mx of? 01/21/05 21:39:50 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: projection?? 01/21/05 21:40:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Right answer *choochoo* 01/21/05 21:40:21 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: wow, that was a guess 01/21/05 21:40:30 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 21:40:40 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Good guess then 01/21/05 21:40:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: oh, did i say that out loud lol 01/21/05 21:40:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: CATATONIC... 01/21/05 21:41:17 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: stupor, maybe mute 01/21/05 21:41:24 usmle_guy Disconnects 01/21/05 21:41:37 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right 01/21/05 21:41:56 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: rigidity of posture, can be long period of times in the same posture 01/21/05 21:41:59 usmle_guy Logs in 01/21/05 21:42:01 usmle_guy Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_1 01/21/05 21:42:14 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sorry, got disconnected 01/21/05 21:42:25 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but with brief outbursts of violence, don't remind me 01/21/05 21:44:03 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: can also be excited with extreme motor agitation 01/21/05 21:44:11 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: DISORGANIZED... 01/21/05 21:44:15 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: that's right Mick 01/21/05 21:44:33 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: incherent, unorganized 01/21/05 21:44:56 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: this is the typical *evil* patient who laughs with no reason 01/21/05 21:44:59 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: incoherent, primitive, unihibited, unorganized behavior 01/21/05 21:45:17 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and with crazy face, Daugherty has a funny face at web prep to show 01/21/05 21:45:53 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: UNDIFFERENTIATED... 01/21/05 21:46:20 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: this doesn't fit in any of the previous so they are called undifferentiated 01/21/05 21:46:24 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: a little of everything, cannot differentiate 01/21/05 21:46:30 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: they have psychotic symptoms 01/21/05 21:46:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right clever 01/21/05 21:46:42 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: RESIDUAL... 01/21/05 21:47:01 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i like the name clever better than clover 01/21/05 21:47:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: was crazy in the past not now 01/21/05 21:47:32 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but they have some negative symptoms 01/21/05 21:48:00 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: so they were diagnosed with the disease, but show little or no symptoms at the moment? 01/21/05 21:48:09 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: WHAT ARE "POSITIVE" AND "NEGATIVE SYMPTOMS"? 01/21/05 21:48:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: right Mick 01/21/05 21:48:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: pos are delusions, hallucinations, bizarre behavior 01/21/05 21:49:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: neg are flat affect, motor retard, apathy, mutism 01/21/05 21:49:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: POS"I"TIVE= Type I......IIEGATIVE= Type II 01/21/05 21:49:33 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: very good guy 01/21/05 21:49:56 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: positive symptoms are what they have that normals dont. negative is what they dont have that normals do 01/21/05 21:50:33 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: positive assoc with dopamine. negative assoc with muscarinic 01/21/05 21:50:35 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: POSITIVE are added characteristics that we normally don't have and NEGATIVE are things they lack of and we normally have 01/21/05 21:50:50 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: great clever, you beat me 01/21/05 21:51:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: very good MICK 01/21/05 21:51:36 jannad Logs in 01/21/05 21:51:37 jannad Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:51:41 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Schizoaffective disorder is not an option in the exam, so don't pick it 01/21/05 21:51:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: is very uncommon 01/21/05 21:51:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: really, i didnt know that 01/21/05 21:52:07 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: now you know 01/21/05 21:52:12 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: 01/21/05 21:52:17 jannad Logs Out 01/21/05 21:52:19 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: thanks for the tip 01/21/05 21:52:30 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: your welcome 01/21/05 21:52:34 jannad Logs in 01/21/05 21:52:54 jannad Logs Out 01/21/05 21:53:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: guys we got to do this faster or we will never finish 01/21/05 21:53:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: what do we have left> 01/21/05 21:53:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Predictors for good prognosis 01/21/05 21:53:22 jannad Logs in 01/21/05 21:53:22 jannad Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:53:34 pqqian Logs in 01/21/05 21:53:38 pqqian Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 21:53:40 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: you dont need to hit every point, just the most important ones 01/21/05 21:53:44 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: we not even started with psichopharmacology 01/21/05 21:53:55 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok 01/21/05 21:54:17 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: quick and late onset 01/21/05 21:54:25 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: paranoid and catatonic 01/21/05 21:54:33 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: positive 01/21/05 21:54:39 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: no family history 01/21/05 21:54:52 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: you guys read about neurotransmitters 01/21/05 21:55:27 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: were we supposed to? 01/21/05 21:55:49 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok guys sorry I am a little lost about this, I was away for 3 weeks 01/21/05 21:56:05 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I think is necessary to talk again about this 01/21/05 21:56:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and make a deal about how do we want the chats to work 01/21/05 21:57:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: we agree on having the chats from monday to friday at 8pm EST and on Saturdays at 1pm EST is that ok? 01/21/05 21:57:14 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: yes, that sounds fine to me 01/21/05 21:57:15 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: The chat schedule is the same 01/21/05 21:57:24 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: yep 01/21/05 21:57:30 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: ok 01/21/05 21:57:42 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: and the dynamic of the chats? 01/21/05 21:57:53 pqqian Logs Out 01/21/05 21:58:06 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: guys you can drop your questions, doubts, anything, anytime 01/21/05 21:58:39 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: any suggestion beside this? 01/21/05 21:58:44 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: usmle_guy? 01/21/05 21:58:46 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: clover? 01/21/05 21:58:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: we usually all bring some questions based on the material on the schedule. if we have 2 chapters, about 1 hr per chapter, maybe less if we get through it quickly. 01/21/05 21:58:48 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Mick? 01/21/05 21:59:13 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: i'm new to this, so i mostly observe and contribute when i can 01/21/05 21:59:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: yeah, that's the deal? to make it quick so we can cover one whole chapter per hour 01/21/05 21:59:32 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i usually have questions ready, but you were doing good today 01/21/05 21:59:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: what do you think Lenhoxung? 01/21/05 22:00:16 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: lenhoxung, still there? 01/21/05 22:00:29 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I think if we anticipate the questions we can do it faster, like one persons does one subtype and questions and the other person the next subtype 01/21/05 22:00:49 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: even if we are just 4 persons we can make it good 01/21/05 22:01:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: you've been here longer than us, so i think we were just following your lead today. normally we all contribute questions because nobody takes lead 01/21/05 22:01:37 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am so sorry again for being away but now I am back, committed with this chat sessions which will help us in an incredible way if we are really committed 01/21/05 22:02:03 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sure, let us know what you think is best and we're all with you 01/21/05 22:02:11 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i agree 01/21/05 22:02:18 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok, so forget now that I am old on this 01/21/05 22:02:21 ayesh Logs in 01/21/05 22:02:44 ayesh: i think it was from 6 to 8 pm 01/21/05 22:02:49 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Mick, are you coming tomorrow? 01/21/05 22:02:55 ayesh Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 22:03:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: clover and usmle_guy? 01/21/05 22:03:09 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: yes. and i will try not to go to the wrong room this time 01/21/05 22:03:13 ayesh Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_3 01/21/05 22:03:15 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: it's almost 10pm 01/21/05 22:03:18 ayesh Leaves Subroom 01/21/05 22:03:18 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i'll be here 01/21/05 22:03:25 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: 01/21/05 22:03:27 ayesh Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 22:03:38 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: tomorrow is at 1pm EST from 1 to 3 01/21/05 22:03:51 ayesh Logs Out 01/21/05 22:03:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: i'm always here 01/21/05 22:04:00 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I will prepare my questions 01/21/05 22:04:33 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: ok, so i will see you all tomorrow at 1 pm 01/21/05 22:04:41 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am planning to take my exam in May the most, I will appreciate your support through this guys, then we will meet in step2 Chats 01/21/05 22:05:14 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: sounds like a great plan rox and its really great to have our leader back 01/21/05 22:05:36 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I am not a leader 01/21/05 22:06:09 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: whether you like it or not, you have inspired us all by putting together the schedule and making this possible 01/21/05 22:06:09 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: but thanks for uour words 01/21/05 22:06:31 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok, so even we didn't finished today, tomorrow we have the most important part in Behavioral Sci 01/21/05 22:06:36 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: i agree. thanks roxanita for putting these chats together 01/21/05 22:06:38 lanny Logs in 01/21/05 22:06:41 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: we will get at least 5 questions on this 01/21/05 22:06:47 lanny Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 22:07:07 lanny Logs Out 01/21/05 22:07:19 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: Ethical and legal Issues Physician-patient relationships 01/21/05 22:07:31 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: those are the big stuff guys 01/21/05 22:07:45 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: I will prepare many questions cause I know it's very important 01/21/05 22:07:48 [USMLE_Step_1] mick: thanks for chat. have a great night and see you tomorrow 01/21/05 22:08:01 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: See you tomorrow Mick, happy studying 01/21/05 22:08:13 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: bye mick 01/21/05 22:08:15 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: usmle-Guy please send me the chat to my pm? 01/21/05 22:08:48 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: ok, it usually comes late at night, so i will send it first thing in morning unless it gets to my email sooner 01/21/05 22:09:04 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: goodnight all. 01/21/05 22:09:15 mick Logs Out 01/21/05 22:09:21 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: ok clever, usmle_guy, lenhoxung? wake up, and mick, have a good night and Happy studying 01/21/05 22:09:40 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: see you guys tomorrow at 1pm 01/21/05 22:09:59 [USMLE_Step_1] usmle_guy: ok rox, bye 01/21/05 22:10:04 strug Logs in 01/21/05 22:10:04 strug Joins Subroom USMLE_Step_2 01/21/05 22:10:11 [USMLE_Step_1] clover: bye 01/21/05 22:10:19 clover Logs Out 01/21/05 22:10:24 [USMLE_Step_1] roxanita: bye. 01/21/05 22:10:28 roxanita Logs Out |
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