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    Can anyone (UMHS official) explain why we are being told that the ONLY clinical options for students right now is Puerto Rico?? What happened to Atlanta, Chicago, Conn, Michigan?? It doesn't sound too promising right now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillybutt View Post
    Can anyone (UMHS official) explain why we are being told that the ONLY clinical options for students right now is Puerto Rico?? What happened to Atlanta, Chicago, Conn, Michigan?? It doesn't sound too promising right now!!
    Is this true???

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    Who is telling you that the only clinical option is Puerto Rico? That is not accurate. UMHS still has clinical slots in all of the states listed on the website. To my knowledge, we have not lost any anywhere. True, we have added Puerto Rico but that is not the only site!

    Please PM me and identify the school person that told you this so that I can get it corrected.

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    I was there too, and obviously you didn't take the right message out of the meeting >.>;;

    Yes, we did lose some clinical spots, but that's b/c the state in question wanted to open up more spots for students coming from its own medical schools. It is NOT b/c they were unhappy w/ the performance of our students.

    We aren't being FORCED to go to PR, but Dr. M is suggesting that it is a very viable option for us. There's a TON of clinical spots available there, you can gain exposure to a lot of experiences that are hard to come by at a states hospital, and... I wasn't too clear about this one, but there's a feature about some of the hospitals offering clinical spots that even SGU doesn't have. Maybe someone else who went to the meeting can elaborate on that lol

    tl;dr - We have clinical spots OTHER than PR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tillybutt View Post
    Can anyone (UMHS official) explain why we are being told that the ONLY clinical options for students right now is Puerto Rico?? What happened to Atlanta, Chicago, Conn, Michigan?? It doesn't sound too promising right now!!
    it doesn't appear to be true, but even if it was.....what's to explain?

    When you sign up to go to a school like UMHS they don't "owe" you anything in terms of clinicals. If hospitals in atlanta or chicago where there were slots open previous drop those, that's fine. If those hospitals triple their price, it's fine if UMHS drops that affiliation as well.

    You know you're getting into this sort of thing(or at least the possibility of it) when you go to a school like UMHS. So it's not really anything to complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzman80 View Post
    it doesn't appear to be true, but even if it was.....what's to explain?

    When you sign up to go to a school like UMHS they don't "owe" you anything in terms of clinicals. If hospitals in atlanta or chicago where there were slots open previous drop those, that's fine. If those hospitals triple their price, it's fine if UMHS drops that affiliation as well.

    You know you're getting into this sort of thing(or at least the possibility of it) when you go to a school like UMHS. So it's not really anything to complain about.
    "What's to explain?"...really jazzman80?? I would start with the false advertisement on the UMHS website of where they have clinical spots!! I never complained or said that they "owe" me anything!! It would just be nice to know the truth about where they claim to have spots. Once they have my money, I expect a service to be done, and that would include being truthful about where clinical spots are! UMHS is a business!!!

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    2 students who are about to start in PR, had to pass a Spanish Proficiency test first, so that eliminates the possibility of PR being the only option (which def isn't true)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tillybutt View Post
    "What's to explain?"...really jazzman80?? I would start with the false advertisement on the UMHS website of where they have clinical spots!! I never complained or said that they "owe" me anything!! It would just be nice to know the truth about where they claim to have spots. Once they have my money, I expect a service to be done, and that would include being truthful about where clinical spots are! UMHS is a business!!!
    of course UMHS is a business....duh.

    And the advertisement says that is where they have spots *NOW*. They aren't promising that exact same number/location of spots 2 years later after you pass step1.......

    that was my point. Just because UMHS(or AUA or whatever) is saying that they have this spot at this hospital now, doesn't mean they will have it in 2 years. Because they are a business, they have to look for ways to get spots most economically. If a hospital jacks up the price for those spots(or another carrib school outbids UMHS), that hospital has every right not to renew the contract.......surely you knew this coming in right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillybutt View Post
    "What's to explain?"...really jazzman80?? I would start with the false advertisement on the UMHS website of where they have clinical spots!! I never complained or said that they "owe" me anything!! It would just be nice to know the truth about where they claim to have spots. Once they have my money, I expect a service to be done, and that would include being truthful about where clinical spots are! UMHS is a business!!!
    Yes, your tuition money does afford you the right to be informed about clinical spots, you're right on target there. But it would be appreciated if you got your facts straight before you decide to berate the school and troll the forum; not once did Dr. M tell us that "WE HAVE NO CLINICAL SITES!!!111! EVERYONE GO TO PR!!!11!oneoneone!!11"

    As jazzman had stated, we have CONTRACTS w/ the hospitals, but the # of clinical spots change from semester to semester based on the influx of students into the clinical arena, so admin can't really come out and say "yeah, we've got 1 000 spots in chicago" or something like that. And, as stated earlier, contracts can change hands depending on who can shovel up the most $$$. SGU is a prime example when they pretty much bought out NY state clinical spots for the next 10 years or so (for like $100 mil?)

    @ coug: the school is starting to offer courses in medical Spanish, so I'm assuming that this might have been an instigating factor =3=
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    Hey tillybutt... relax... there's no false advertisement going on on the website.... I'm in clinicals right now so I know first hand. My classmates and myself are spread out amongst all those sites that are listed...

    But add NY to your list there, cuz that's where I'm at currently doing Psych.

    The only place we've lost is Oklahoma, and that was because the hospital is no longer having ANY other schools rotate there, except for Oklahoma Univ, and Oklahoma State Univ students. Its really a shame too, cuz "we" aka "UMHS Students" were assaulting chronic disease's there left and right...
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