if it is all a matter of technicality, then uag should call imed and ask them to change the description. because basically getting a diploma from the school requires 4 years, the two extra years have more to do with getting a license to practice medicine in mexico and has nothing to do with the school. I may look at this from a very perspective. I mean if you look at the caribbean grads and all they have is a diploma and they do not need a practicing license to apply for ecfmg certification

Haha. On the contrary....I meant to point out that I thought that was the most correct info. that should be pursued regarding the social service obstacle. I guess I chose strange wording.

Yes, I agree they should do that. Considering the fact that there is 'National' program though, where some students do try to get into the states, they may have to create a separate listing (have two listings) in the IMED that designates 'International' program to have a different description. But, if Acgt's rumor is true with the elimation of the social service for private schools, then they won't have to take any action at all.

If they eliminate social service that would be great for you guyz..cuz then you end up just doing 5 years...
I mean social service is supposed to be a way to pay back the govt for helping you in your studies(monetarily); like in the public schools such as UDG.
Since we pay in the autonoma we shouldnt have to do that either. WE use to argue about this when i was in internado too...all the mexican and latino students also dislike doing servicio and HAVING to pay for it as well. Hopefully they do that...i mean it's a good experience to do it but 1 year fewer i 1 year fewer and there is a lot of paper work in servicio if you work for the ssj(secretaria salud jalisco).

No license in Mexico needed, just the titulo. The school have to get the titulo signed off by Mexican Govenrment. If the Mexican government no longer requires Social Service, students will be able to get their titulo with 4 years + internado + examen professional. This is the reasoin why other students did 4th,5th and 6th year(still required as of today) in the US and they are ECFMG certified without having their cedula(license to practice in Mexico).

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Hey,

It's also important to take note that even if 5 year is possible or just accepting the 6 year deal, in order to get into an ACGME US residency program, one needs to do at least 1 year of clinical studies in a US hospital. More specifically, their core rotations have to be green book rotations; that's why FPW was essential and why the top 4 carib med schools are legit.

The concern is whether UAG will offer these green book rotations in US hospitals to all of its international students or only to an elite few? All of this weighs into the process of being ECFMG certified.

THanks.

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This is a good point to look at. According to the NYMC, the opportunity to do the internado year will remain available there in New York. But, the option of staying in Mexico without ever moving for the six years straight wouldn't be possible. It would force a there-and-back situation. The moving expenses each way aren't cheap.

By law in Mexico all medical students have to do 6 years of medical school in order to get the Titulo. No servicio, No titulo!!! No titulo no acceptance by ECFMG!


It would be nice if the servico social was not mandatory for private schools. But it is part of the law. Well politics too. UAG has to abide by the rules of IMSS, ISSSTE, SSA and goverment.

No you cannot pay to avoid doing the servicio but ou can try and get a place within Guadalajara or at town not more than 30 minutes. Oh! forgot 80% of the spots around or in Guadalajara are reserved for students from UdeG de public school. Not fair uh?

Where are the UAG national students going if 80% of the spaces are filled by the public university ?

very close to HELL!

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This is what I would like to do to the "burros" of Megacable....