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Old 04-10-2008, 12:45 AM
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So by being mediator what is to happen new?? We are asking the 5th way back . Is it happening?? Or simply , we are brainwashed??We do not want to run political non sence. Where is the BEEF ?? How soon we get 4 years program?? If not, can they bring 5th pathway back??Or we now prepare everybody for six years. ????????????????????????:confu sed::confu sed:
Please stick to the point we are asking for. Nobody should be advising to do social service etc.
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Letter in leu of middle school transcripts--?--

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Students that lack a high school diploma or 7th and 8th grade transcripts (who were going to use the 5th pathway). Can the documentation still be accepted, or can exceptions be made so thay can go through the 6-year program?

I am currently in the second phase of the application process, and after speaking with the San Antonio offices, had my high school submit a letter in leu of the middle school transcripts. The letter basically states that the high school policy is to shred middle school transcripts one year after high school graduation. The letter was notarized, apostille sealed, signed by the principal, etc.. I will be inquiring about this further in the upcoming interview, and hope the San Antonio reply to this Q&A reiterates the specifics of this protocol and that it is a viable substitute to submitting Middle School transcripts.
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not sure what you meant by your post but I don't think you should be telling people what should be advised or asked. This thread is just for questions if your questions is in regards to what is the possibility of bringing 5th pathway back, just ask. Some students may only have the 6 years route as an option if that is the case they have the option to ask. I guess I am confused with what you meant with your post.

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So by being mediator what is to happen new?? We are asking the 5th way back . Is it happening?? Or simply , we are brainwashed??We do not want to run political non sence. Where is the BEEF ?? How soon we get 4 years program?? If not, can they bring 5th pathway back??Or we now prepare everybody for six years. ????????????????????????:confu sed::confu sed:
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Junior High Transcripts - Additional Requests

Beyond the other posts about this topic, it seems critical that we would get some OFFICIAL approval/verification in writing from the school regarding the Junior High Transcripts to a level where each student would know for sure where they stand on this issue as of RIGHT NOW.


Something technical that needs to be cleared up is this: When students submitted these documents in their application packages, and were allowed to move forward in the matriculation process (essentially gaining some kind of approval of the documents),
1. Was this a real approval?
2. To what level was the approval made (who approved
the documents and what does that mean?

Most Importantly (the bottom line):
3. Who EXACTLY needs to approve the documents in order
for them to be used to obtain the Mexican MD?
(the school officials? the Mexican govt.?)
4. Were each of the students' documents (upon
application/matriculation) approved by this authority?
5. What has been done in the past for the 6 yr. grads....
was their paperwork submitted to the governing
authority at Matriculation, or at Graduation?
6. How is this done for the Latino program?

Background: I know that when myself, as well as others, applied and went through the matriculation process we were told that if the transcript documents weren't exactly what was needed, that we would only be able to utilize the 'Fifth Pathway' route to licensure.

Very important technical question relating to all of this:
What actually happened with the paperwork so far?
When those of us that did submit the documents in order to keep the 6-yr. route open, were the documents actually approved FOR SURE by the proper governing authority? or were they looked over by the student's admission counselor and then just filed away, assuming that they would be checked years later, and if they don't conform at that time, then those particular students would be forced through the fifth pathway?

Why might paperwork not have been checked yet, and what is the biggest concern for the Americans and Canadiens?:
The paperwork might not have been checked and approved, because in Mexico it might not be a big deal for a student to go to their old school or to some authority and obtain this paperwork at a later time (the importance of Junior High documents is much greater in Mexico obviously), due to the demand for these documents.

However, in the U.S., a Junior High transcript is worthless after entrance into High School, and a High School transcript is almost worthless after entrance into the University. So, many of the students can NEVER retrieve a transcript from an education level lower than high school. Personally, I was told from my Junior High School that they only store the records for approximately the previous 5 years before the current date, and that's it. So, upon matriculation, I actually submitted the hard copies of my records that I luckily had at home. (but that's it.....if those get destroyed, forget about it!)

So, we each, as students need a written stamp of approval RIGHT NOW, as our records approval, before we spend another $22,000 in tuition and fees only to find out that the education will be worthless to the UAG and Mexico and our only option WILL be to transfer at some point in time....which is completely dependent on another school to accept the credits.

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I know my post has confused UAGDOC. My question is simple. From talking to UAG, San Antonio , can anything be resolved?? Or talking to AMA more only , something can be achieved?? We are going round and round with no solution. RESULT is only important. We know the questions. Only answers are not with UAG. I do not think any thing is done more.
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Medicodreamer, get your head out of the clouds. The only option at the moment is social servicio and internado. The world has changed in that way.

Look for the star in the east before things change again and be ready to adapt.

If it changes on way. Don't go sighing again and say, "I was all ready for internado and now i have to start back at semester 2 in a U.S. school and repeat for three years rather than go on to internado and social servicio for 2.

If they reinstate 5th pathway at the last semester of your social servicio and they don't accept your your intrnado as 5pthway. Suck it up.
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I spoke with a school official in San Antonio(due to valuemd tos I can't disclose the name of the official) for about 20 minutes. I was very impressed with the person's sympathetic attitude toward the current student situation. I was asked to have the current members from Valuemd to ask questions so they can post in a Q&A format the answers. They will post the official answers on their website and send a copy to us to post here. I will keep this thread open for a few days so we don't have to wait forever to get the answers.
I think we talk to the same lady uagdoc. She is very nice and informative on the issue. The problem is that there is a lack of immediate decisions and students are freaking out. I heard somewhere applications are down at least 90%. The more UAG waits, the less credibility UAG has on the issue at hand for immediate solutions for current students; it really seems like nothing will happen soon so I truly believe 6 years is the only concrete option right now. I also heard the UAG is for sale since the owners want to invest in PEMEX since there is a probability that it will undergo privatization. As a consequence, owners might not care to solve the problem. I really hope some school official make an statement here but I think I will have a seat first, I wouldnt wait standing up. Rumors, rumors, rumors....this is all we have .....thanks UAG for your lack of information
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I think we talk to the same lady uagdoc. She is very nice and informative on the issue. The problem is that there is a lack of immediate decisions and students are freaking out. I heard somewhere applications are down at least 90%. The more UAG waits, the less credibility UAG has on the issue at hand for immediate solutions for current students; it really seems like nothing will happen soon so I truly believe 6 years is the only concrete option right now. I also heard the UAG is for sale since the owners want to invest in PEMEX since there is a probability that it will undergo privatization. As a consequence, owners might not care to solve the problem. I really hope some school official make an statement here but I think I will have a seat first, I wouldnt wait standing up. Rumors, rumors, rumors....this is all we have .....thanks UAG for your lack of information

Maybe Sr. Slim will buy the school (refere to the posted link Bloomberg.com: Special Report)??????? I

From the article, it seems like he's putting his hands in the whole new medical tourism sector in MX. Sr. Slim is funding the creation of several new private hospitals aimed at attracting Americans that can't afford healthcare in the US. Would it be possible to do the 5th and 6th yrs at these hospitals? I'm pretty sure that it would help his plan out if he had American doctors in his hospitals.
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Beyond the other posts about this topic, it seems critical that we would get some OFFICIAL approval/verification in writing from the school regarding the Junior High Transcripts to a level where each student would know for sure where they stand on this issue as of RIGHT NOW.


Something technical that needs to be cleared up is this: When students submitted these documents in their application packages, and were allowed to move forward in the matriculation process (essentially gaining some kind of approval of the documents),
1. Was this a real approval?
2. To what level was the approval made (who approved
the documents and what does that mean?

Most Importantly (the bottom line):
3. Who EXACTLY needs to approve the documents in order
for them to be used to obtain the Mexican MD?
(the school officials? the Mexican govt.?)
4. Were each of the students' documents (upon
application/matriculation) approved by this authority?
5. What has been done in the past for the 6 yr. grads....
was their paperwork submitted to the governing
authority at Matriculation, or at Graduation?
6. How is this done for the Latino program?

Background: I know that when myself, as well as others, applied and went through the matriculation process we were told that if the transcript documents weren't exactly what was needed, that we would only be able to utilize the 'Fifth Pathway' route to licensure.

Very important technical question relating to all of this:
What actually happened with the paperwork so far?
When those of us that did submit the documents in order to keep the 6-yr. route open, were the documents actually approved FOR SURE by the proper governing authority? or were they looked over by the student's admission counselor and then just filed away, assuming that they would be checked years later, and if they don't conform at that time, then those particular students would be forced through the fifth pathway?

Why might paperwork not have been checked yet, and what is the biggest concern for the Americans and Canadiens?:
The paperwork might not have been checked and approved, because in Mexico it might not be a big deal for a student to go to their old school or to some authority and obtain this paperwork at a later time (the importance of Junior High documents is much greater in Mexico obviously), due to the demand for these documents.

However, in the U.S., a Junior High transcript is worthless after entrance into High School, and a High School transcript is almost worthless after entrance into the University. So, many of the students can NEVER retrieve a transcript from an education level lower than high school. Personally, I was told from my Junior High School that they only store the records for approximately the previous 5 years before the current date, and that's it. So, upon matriculation, I actually submitted the hard copies of my records that I luckily had at home. (but that's it.....if those get destroyed, forget about it!)

So, we each, as students need a written stamp of approval RIGHT NOW, as our records approval, before we spend another $22,000 in tuition and fees only to find out that the education will be worthless to the UAG and Mexico and our only option WILL be to transfer at some point in time....which is completely dependent on another school to accept the credits.
very good questions man! I know many students in this situation and clarification will be great for those comtemplating 6 years. Good luck
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Medicodreamer, get your head out of the clouds. The only option at the moment is social servicio and internado. The world has changed in that way.

Look for the star in the east before things change again and be ready to adapt.

If it changes on way. Don't go sighing again and say, "I was all ready for internado and now i have to start back at semester 2 in a U.S. school and repeat for three years rather than go on to internado and social servicio for 2.

If they reinstate 5th pathway at the last semester of your social servicio and they don't accept your your intrnado as 5pthway. Suck it up.
I love poetic justice. He is a medicodreamer after all
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