Hey everybody, I was "googling" and happened to come across something on the UAG site. I don't know how long it's been up since nothing has a date on it. Its the first time I see it. One thing I read was that UAG knew about this issue since last fall as we all suspected, not in January like some of us were told. I'm referring to the links at the bottom of the page. Check it out for yourself:

Fifth Pathway

I apologize ahead of time if this is old info.

the exact date will be unclear and unfortunately useless at this point. Weight your options and make your decision. The facts are clear. Let stop beating a dead horse ( 5th pathway). If you are going to weight your decision on whether the school has lied to the students and/or if they have any fault on the situation, it is a little near sighted proposition. What is done is done and finding the guilty party is like finding Waldo. Two very good friends of mine left today and withdrew from school. Many others are grouping, planning and weighing their options; none of them want to stay. Still, no answer from any school official regarding any plan of action. My two friends just asked for a withdrawal letter and the school was not reluctant to provide it and no effort was made to convince students to stay. I am sure more will follow. Some want to finish the semester and leave, others want to "try" to stay and transfer after two years, the other bunch are students that are young enough to ride 6 years and/or have failed classes and/or gone to extraordinarios so transferring with such a record is very improbable. Good luck

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This is what I would like to do to the "burros" of Megacable....

yeah its a pretty sad situation. unfortunately its what prospective applicants are taking into account when they decide on whether or not to attend UAG. Lack of communication is rampant at this institution and unfortunately is the decisive factor for students seeking to withdraw or transfer out of here. unfortunately for current 1st semester students, who if they had been notified of this predicament PRIOR to their enrollment in January would probably NOT have attended, they are now stuck with one semester's worth of student loans.

I would suspect that the last word has not been written about this 5th pathway change.

So, I write on.

I would imagine that UAG was notified about this decision before the statement by Dr. Pan was published.

To think otherwise is naive.

The question is whether or not they knew it was irreversible, or not, at that time.

It is strange that with the projected doctor shortage, and the extra problem of a lack of bilingual physicians, this was not reversed.

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Please stick to the same segments on 5th pathway if possible.

No personal offense to Karplus specifically, but I'm tired of the overworn selling point of "bicultural/bilingual physicians" as something UAG holds out there like it really matters in the end. Newsflash: it doesn't.

Why? Because residency programs want workers--solid performers who can get their work done, who are competent and do the business of medicine (or whatever field is involved) as efficiently and smartly as possible. The fact that a resident can speak Spanish and "understand" the Latino population is a definite plus for many underserved areas, but it's icing on the cake. For the most part of what UAG is putting out there in present terms (45% match rate for 2008), the cake itself is the problem.

The whole scene of some EMT gurney crashing through the ED's double-doors with some poor lady yelling "¡Ayúdame, ayúdame!" and telling what's wrong, and you--the savvy UAG grad who knows exactly how to interview her to find out what's wrong when seconds count, takes control and save the day--yeah, that's possible, but if it happens it's the VAST minority of situations. The other 95% of what you're going to do is standard stuff that EVERYONE has to do, that ANYONE in your position would be expected to do, and depends far more on your medical competence than being a "cultural liason" to the Latino underserved.

Put in other words, if I were a residency director/hospital CEO having to allocate institutional money and resources, I'd take the better medical candidate and teach them Spanish than take the Spanish-speaking "native" from a lesser program and have to catch them up on the medicine.

I am sorry; in what residency program are you currently enrolled? Or have you done any residency in the past?

Oh! I get it, you know a guy that knows a guy who is the nephew of the secretary of the program director in X residency program.

Your statements are indeed deep, but I can tell you that for someone that is actually DOING residency and INTERVIEWING for fellowship, most of the program I have worked with or visited are in great demand of bicultural/ bilingual residents.

Despite of what you think, we UAG grads have made our name in the US, and we will keep doing this because our bicultural/bilingual selling points.

Lalo

Thank you lalo, I always defer to your knowledge. Tell your family I said high and thanks for all the beer at your party.

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yey! go lalo go lalo go lalo! welcome back.


go lalo!

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Welcome back, our friend!

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