Ask all the students from foreign medical schools after 5 semesters and thousands of dollars in debt without passing step 1 if they like this rule? I bet if you were of them you would be asking why they required their students to pass their shelf exam before allowing then to take the USMLE. I think USMLE has no business testing medical students before they graduate. I read somewhere that the NBME currently has a task force looking into changing the current system into 2 steps. 1 exam after medical school graduation and the second after residency.

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You can do your social service in the US if you don't plan to practice in Mexico and you can get loans for 5th and 6th year.

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I don't understand this fight. Every student that is planning to study here is intelligent and adult to choose what they want and to make the right decision. We are not children. Good luck to everyone!

I am not fighting. I am actually liking this educated discussion with dc99. I agree time is tough but we have to be strong because life just gets worst as you advance in the medical career.

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UAGDOC: I'm not talking about you. It's about the other person. Good night!

Good Night!!

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wow, i didn't think this was about fighting...like uagdoc said, i'm also liking this educated discussion.

completing your social service in the U.S. is a possiblity, not a guarantee to everyone, and unfortunately some people are gonna get stuck down here for that 6th year in Mex. (then again, thats just my opinion).

you also might want to ask those who managed to graduate from UAG without having passed their STEP1....even MORE loans, and MORE uncertainty. The reason I'm FOR a rule stating that a student must pass their STEP 1 before continuing is so that students will not become complacent and think they have all the time in the world to take the exam. The longer you wait the harder it becomes to recall much of the basic sciences learned--advice I've gotten from UAG alumni in residencies at various places that I've met and talked to personally. With that requirement, the students are forced to buckle down and study their ***** off as much as possible.

students in U.S. medical schools dont find this unacceptable but are rather posting close to 99 percent passing rates with one or two in their classes not passing on the first try.

wow thank you for your information and I do appreciate opinions! I guess there is more here than I am aware of with the absence of 5th pathway.

no problem.

You'll usually get two distinct viewpoints in these types of discussions. Both uagdoc and I have contrasting opinions about the school and they have been posted above. It is up to YOU as the applicant to decide what is right for you in your present situation. I can tell you "Don't come here!" like I did in my first reply. Uagdoc will paint you a brighter picture than the one I give. Both are based on experiences we've had down here. However its up to you to make an educated decision based on both arguments, and your own personal research. Contact UAG alumni, but also contact alumni from other foreign med schools if attending a U.S. school is no longer an option for you. Ask them what they advise you to do..CONSIDERING THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

Seek out current residents who are UAG alumni. They will be better able to provide you with helpful advice, and correct as well, as to what to do. I don't think many here on this forum can provide that.


Good luck in your future medical studies...wherever they may be.

This is the system Canada has set up, and as such we're forced to take both the USMLE (due to the programme) as well as the MCCEE and MCQE - the Canadian medical exams. Canada doesn't recognize the USMLE.

They're crazy.