In all fairness, (s)he would be accepted to UAG for the very same reason.

i know English is not your 1st language, so i wil give you a little leeway, but go back and read my post...I was not talking about medical school clinical rotations (and while welcome at many places, generally more than foreign schools, there are still many places that stipulate that visiting students are accepted only from LCME (ie MD) schools-i've rotated with DO students from Kirksville, UMDNJ, and UNE they have the same issue we do), but about LICENSURE- a MUCH bigger deal than where you can and cannot do rotations. In my example (true PA is an extreme example, but variations on the theme exist in practically every state), PA has TWO separate medical boards- one for "Medicine" and the other for "Osteopathic Medicine"

BPOA: Health Related Boards=|

virginia has 2 different applications- one for medicine and surgery and the other for osteopathy

Virginia Board of Medicine Forms & Applications

with different forms

Virginia Board of Medicine Forms & Applications


well, i was born in a US hospital, my father took me on rounds when i was little in a US hospital, i completed 3rd and 4th year clinical rotations at US hospitals and will be a PGY-1 in a US hospital, so i would have to say...yes, i have been in US hospitals...have you?


- my name is ROKSHANA- please be respectful and not diminutize my name in an attempt to belittle me.

and your point?? I never said that osteopathic medicine is "alternative" and yes they are recognized in all 50 states (though internationally its a different story...), but they (like IMGs) have to sometimes jump additional hoops...maybe not the same hoops, but they have to make extra efforts above and beyond their USMD counterparts.

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I think I am being too vocal. My name is being repeated too much.

The stigma against DOs is decreasing but may equal to or even less than the stigma against people who go to school in the carribean or in Mexico.

Strangely the stigma against doctors who are natives of foreign countries and practicing in America seems to be less.

It is an opinion. It took a year before I knew that my primary physician was from St. George's and finished his rotations in England. It didn't make me feel any less of him because he had already made me feel secure in his caregiver abilities.

People who are ruled by heirarchies will always look for an Ivy league degree. I have been there and I don't buy it.

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why strangely? those doctors that are true FMGs are the cream of the crop of their countries, while we (for whatever reason) were not able to get into our domiclied schools.

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Wrong again, ROKSHANA

Have I ever found your logic to not be lacking.

By the way I assumed Rokshana was a screen name and therefore did not have a problem bastardizing it. I am sorry. My name is **** and I hate Pauly, Pablo, Paulo, Pally boy and all other forms.

The cream of the foreign crop went to US or European Universities and were later accepted to American medical schools.

The second tier went to a local medical school and then worked their way in as IMGs

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The number of foreign students accepted to US medical schools is very, very small.

Medical school admission policies vary widely by country. In some countries it is highly competitive whereas other countries (I believe France & Argentina are examples) essentially have open admission (coupled with a low pass rate).

Hence the cream of the crop.

France has open policies unless you are of middle eastern descent and French. There is a glass ceiling there. It is the same for Law school.

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must be a language issue, nevermind...

and like brenda b said, very few non-US citizens granted seats in US med schools (and they tend to be canadians).

Not everyone in a foreign country wants to come here to practice...DOMICILED med schools in other countries educate and train doctors for their own country. Many will stay in their home country, but some will immigrate to the UK and the US. Because there is an issue of the lack of USCE (full circle!!) among other things, it is difficult for them to get interviews and residency spots here. I have interviewed with some of these applicants and have had some of these people as residents on my rotations. It is well known that they usually have double 99s(otherwise they wouldn't even be considered for an interview) and are soooooo well versed in the medicine (its familarity with the US medical system and cultural norms that are new to them)...maybe if you did USCE you would know this...

a person at aga khan got there because (s)he go that spot because they scored in the top section of their national exams, not because it was the only option for them...

noticed you however let go of the other issue - trust me- i rarely post something here that i can't back up with a source....

and well...you know what they say about ASSuming...

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I am confused. The post you quoted was an apology.

I am sorry my closest foriegn friends did fine with no "USCE." Husband and wife from India. He is Tamil and she is from the north. Both are BSSMs from india and they got matched as a couple in the same hospital.

I would never imagine that all foriegn medical school grads want to come to America. In fact she wants to go back and practice specialties in India. There was a big world out there and it is getting smaller all the time. That is why I minored in Italian and study in Mexico. I also have lived in Seoul Korea and England. But everyone "I know" who studies in Korea wants to come and practice in America (full circle).

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I ran across this when searching for problems and legal battles depending on where ones training was from and if they jumped all over the place. (You have to skip a few posts in the thread).

http://www.valuemd.com/state-medical...html#post97023