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Old 04-26-2008, 06:56 PM
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Good call if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen!
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Good call if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen!
LMAO! Sorry, just had to get one last laugh in.

Okay.. BYE.. for real now. =)
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LMAO! Sorry, just had to get one last laugh in.

Okay.. BYE.. for real now. =)
"run forrest, run!!!!!"...lol
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Good luck on SGU and all your monolingual comrades.
just to correct...many, many, many of the students at sgu are 1st generation something...(usually Indian, but...) and believe it or not are bi- and usually multilingual...they obviously speak English, but also speak Russian, Urdu, Hindi, Gujrathi, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Bengali, etc....to think spanish is the end all be all of languages, is just as myopic as thinking that everyone should speak english.

and really, IMHO, sometimes speaking THESE languages is even more important. Yeah, Spanish is far and away the major "foreign" language and you can speak to the most patients, but lets face it, more than likely you will be able to find SOMEONE(nurse, tech, etc) who speaks spanish and has enough medical knowledge to translate (especially in areas like Miami and LA where there is SUCH a large population), but the others? You are sometimes hard pressed to find another medical professional that speaks one of those....

I know I was the MOST popular med student in L&D when the nurses found out I spoke Bengali ( you may be fluent in English, but come delivery time!...)...

and also more and more hospitals are requesting utilization of language lines for medical translation...they know the person doing the translation is trained and certified to handle medical translation and there is documentation of such (in the litigeous society that is the US, this CYA is becoming more and more important)...thus this advantage will be less...

simply put when there were only four pathways for the chance to practice in the US, schools like UAG, that had the benefit of the 5th pathway program, had an upper hand. With the advent of US-styled programs off shore, the advantage was less, but still there, because of the history and reputation of UAG doctors practicing in the US, but NOW with the discontinuation of the 5th pathway program, will the advantage of a bilingual training (which could be achieved at schools in the DR in 4 years) which take 6 years to attain be really all that enticing?
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just to correct...many, many, many of the students at sgu are 1st generation something...(usually Indian, but...) and believe it or not are bi- and usually multilingual...they obviously speak English, but also speak Russian, Urdu, Hindi, Gujrathi, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Bengali, etc....to think spanish is the end all be all of languages, is just as myopic as thinking that everyone should speak english.

and really, IMHO, sometimes speaking THESE languages is even more important. Yeah, Spanish is far and away the major "foreign" language and you can speak to the most patients, but lets face it, more than likely you will be able to find SOMEONE(nurse, tech, etc) who speaks spanish and has enough medical knowledge to translate (especially in areas like Miami and LA where there is SUCH a large population), but the others? You are sometimes hard pressed to find another medical professional that speaks one of those....

I know I was the MOST popular med student in L&D when the nurses found out I spoke Bengali ( you may be fluent in English, but come delivery time!...)...

and also more and more hospitals are requesting utilization of language lines for medical translation...they know the person doing the translation is trained and certified to handle medical translation and there is documentation of such (in the litigeous society that is the US, this CYA is becoming more and more important)...thus this advantage will be less...

simply put when there were only four pathways for the chance to practice in the US, schools like UAG, that had the benefit of the 5th pathway program, had an upper hand. With the advent of US-styled programs off shore, the advantage was less, but still there, because of the history and reputation of UAG doctors practicing in the US, but NOW with the discontinuation of the 5th pathway program, will the advantage of a bilingual training (which could be achieved at schools in the DR in 4 years) which take 6 years to attain be really all that enticing?
finally somebody with some brains!. I agree 100% with you rocksana. Are the 6 years enticing in any way? NO! but some students dont have a choice and they have to stay. I am leaving soon. Good luck
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:09 PM
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Also, my parents are not Spanish American. I happen to be a TRINIDADIAN that knows spanish. That's all.
You all are moving far too fast for me.

Thanks for your replies and activity on the site. All information is welcome here.

Personal Question. What is the difference between a Trinidadian and a Toboggan (or is that Tobagan)?

Or is everyone both a Trinidadian and a Tobagan?

Time for Wikipedia. Sadly I also go there for quick answers to pharmacology questions, quicker and as acurate as my pharm book.
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just to clarify, this discussion is about the importance of spanish as one of the reasons to come here. I would never comment on one school better than the other since I have never been to SGU. I have actually heard great things about the school. Futhermore, it is not only the spanish but the assimilation of the spanish culture being at stake here. These are two completely different things.
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Yes, good insight on the other languages. I know that many of the major cities have a 'China Town.' It's the best place to get Dim Sum on Sundays . So, anyone planning to practice near China Town would be best to know Chinese. So, there's an effect of tailoring the skills learned to the situation, which can't be denied.

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just to correct...many, many, many of the students at sgu are 1st generation something...(usually Indian, but...) and believe it or not are bi- and usually multilingual...they obviously speak English, but also speak Russian, Urdu, Hindi, Gujrathi, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Bengali, etc....to think spanish is the end all be all of languages, is just as myopic as thinking that everyone should speak english.

and really, IMHO, sometimes speaking THESE languages is even more important. Yeah, Spanish is far and away the major "foreign" language and you can speak to the most patients, but lets face it, more than likely you will be able to find SOMEONE(nurse, tech, etc) who speaks spanish and has enough medical knowledge to translate (especially in areas like Miami and LA where there is SUCH a large population), but the others? You are sometimes hard pressed to find another medical professional that speaks one of those....

I know I was the MOST popular med student in L&D when the nurses found out I spoke Bengali ( you may be fluent in English, but come delivery time!...)...

and also more and more hospitals are requesting utilization of language lines for medical translation...they know the person doing the translation is trained and certified to handle medical translation and there is documentation of such (in the litigeous society that is the US, this CYA is becoming more and more important)...thus this advantage will be less...

simply put when there were only four pathways for the chance to practice in the US, schools like UAG, that had the benefit of the 5th pathway program, had an upper hand. With the advent of US-styled programs off shore, the advantage was less, but still there, because of the history and reputation of UAG doctors practicing in the US, but NOW with the discontinuation of the 5th pathway program, will the advantage of a bilingual training (which could be achieved at schools in the DR in 4 years) which take 6 years to attain be really all that enticing?

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Old 04-26-2008, 09:45 PM
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Good point bentonmedicine.

You must also keep in mind that some people of Asian descent that live in your local "Chinatown" do not speak any asian language.

I had a good friend in college who was Korean. She was failing math and chemistry and couldn't even use chopsticks. Most stereotypes have some truth in them but make sure that you look for exceptions.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:11 PM
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Rokshana, you open up a can of worms with all these other languages.

I minored in Italian but could not practice without a translator. I have a good friend from India who brought his wife. They grew up several miles from each other. Luckily she speaks Tamil because he cannot speak Hindi. I have watched many Tamil movies in there house but no real Hindi movies because it distracts him.

There are only one language that is a major problem in the American medical system and that is Spanish. That is because most of the Southern US uses migrant workers from Mexico. This is a major money sink hole our emergent care system.
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