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Old 04-22-2008, 05:03 AM
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I'm not sure, but i think what Rasp means is that for someone who is finishing 2nd semester to transfer (even if it means starting over) they will still finish a year earlier than someone who stays (following the 6 year program).

But seriously, to me there isn't that much of a difference between paying back $200,000 or $225,000. Our stress levels are high enough, without having to deal with financial worries on top...
my point exactly tcatx. Most of the students leaving are from 1st and 2nd semester. I am assuming 3rd and 4th will try to transfer; hopefully they have been on top of things and pass the USMLE1. Furthermore, since permits to take the USMLE are being issue late in the semester some students will have to pay for 5th semester tuition which will also add up at the end in case of transferring. Things will get rough if indeed massive students leave at the end of the semester + enrollment is down. On the other hand, Upper semesters dont really have a choice right now unless they already passed the USMLE. They have to stick with the system and whatever that means, passing the mexican test, ECFMG route and more. Good luck
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:25 AM
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I could be completely off on this one from having read other postings.

Seriously what school is accepting UAG students after their first or second semester without the student having to repeat everything? None that I know of and a few in Europe mentioned by some students. But when it comes to 50 states caribbean school, none.

If you are repeating anything you are throwing out 22K in tuition, or two semesters (one year) which one has been paid up front plus living expenses. In addition, one has wasted an entire year. Many friends that have left never mentioned "wasting a year"; staying here for 6 plus all the extra stuff to handle during and after is what they considered a waste more than a gain. Some people just dont have the grasp of understanding what it conveys to stay here. Some of these students didnt have a chance to do 6 years due to lack of required mexican education documents such as GED, missing transcripts and more. Others were not happy with the education they were getting here and saw themselves as having no chance whatsoever to pass the USMLE and transferring.

It seems that ones total time would then equate to 5 years in "medical school" not four in another school. If one was to spend the 5 at UAG this leaves only one additional year to finish the Mexican program. I agree somewhat. BUT the school attitude towards the issue leaves many students with many questions marks and no assurances. Some are not willing to take the risks. It is like driving through a dust storm and you cant see the end of the road permanently ( dust storm just last for a few seconds). What do you do? most people stop, some just keep going and crash. there has been no assurances of any kind from the school. Students are scared and some just decided to stop and see what happens. I dont blame them. I blame the school for the lack of communication and initiative to inform what are the REAL options out there. Students will do what they need to do, inform yourself and be smart. Whatever you decide will be good for you, I mean it is your money, time, life and dream. Good luck

Wasting time and money does not solve the problem.
maybe wasting MORE time and Money will solve the problem?
let the school give concrete, real, palpable solutions to the current issues and maybe students will believe a little bit more. The school is a great place to be, the education is what you make of it, the infrastructure is awesome BUT the issues have not been addressed properly. Nobody knows what is going on? I mean NOBODY! The transcript from the march 16th hasnt been released, why? talking about wasting time
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:33 AM
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But seriously, to me there isn't that much of a difference between paying back $200,000 or $225,000. Our stress levels are high enough, without having to deal with financial worries on top...
I couldnt agree more
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:59 AM
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Have issues always existed in the past, "5th" or not ?

Not being prepared to pass the USMLE or any examination is always an issue. ( This can be anyone’s fault and/or a combination of both the student and the quality/clarity of the examinations and the staff. Many science Masters/PhD's at major universities in U.S. seem to be learning English as a second language while getting over their stage fright by teaching. In Mexico one expects a combination of Spanish and English and nothing else. )

The required document issue is very interesting. For 2008, UAG insisted that all the paper work had to be in order from Jr. and Sr. High School official transcripts with the State Seals and ones original High School diploma (cannot speak for the GED issue). They did want the official university transcript but not the diploma.

I do agree if that if one believes they are in a bad situation no matter where they are, that they should cut their losses and leave. Nothing can improve a bad relationship.


If a student came to UAG as their only chance, they have a real hard decision to make. If other schools did not offer them a position in the first place, why would they do it now.... Some of us only applied to UAG. I never planned on having to stay for the full "six" years.


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Old 04-26-2008, 02:30 PM
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A woman from UAG had a booth set up at my school, and she was giving away free hand sanitizers and cute little flashlights.. unfortunately, this was not enough to convince me..

She told me that all I really needed to get into that school was a 3.0 GPA and a 20 on the mcat, but they were willing to make accomodations for students if they were falling slightly below those requirements. (??)

I told this woman that I was applying to SGU, and her BIGGEST argument was that I should go to UAG because I will be fluent in spanish by the time I leave there. She also told me that any student would be crazy not to choose UAG over a Caribbean school (is that what these people are putting into your heads?)

I see that some people are on here saying that the only good point about going to a caribbean medical school is that they accept you with lower stats? Umm.. last time I checked, a 3.0 and a 20mcat is wayy too low for any student to get accepted to SGU.

Bottom line is, she was feeding me a whole load of ** full of statements that only gullible people would fall for.

On a brighter note, the free hand sanitizer had a citrus scent !

((Back to the SGU forum))
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:02 PM
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I don't like hand sanitizer. If my hand was covered in deadly bacteria, I would not use something that only kills the bacteria but leaves their dead corpses lying around in weird smelling goop.

But yes there is a reason to come here. Namely, learning to practice in spanish.
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:23 PM
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If the only good reason to go to UAG is to be able to practice in spanish, I think I would much prefer the US clinical experience and stick with SGU. There are many doctors who aren't fluent in spanish and they're doing just fine.
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It depends on where you want to practice. I can remember when I was a kid in the emergency room no one spoke spanish. I was the patient and was doing to translation from the doctor to my parents. I remember my mother telling me not to tell the doctor what medications she had given me. I didnt, but looking back I always ask myself what could have happened if a bad reaction who have happend?
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If the only good reason to go to UAG is to be able to practice in spanish, I think I would much prefer the US clinical experience and stick with SGU. There are many doctors who aren't fluent in spanish and they're doing just fine.
si el espanol no es una prioridad en tu vida entonces quedate monolingue y vete para SGU, no le veo el problema. "para Gustos hay colores" como se dice en espanol asi que tu decision no significa que sea mejor que la que otros han hecho. Conosco muchos doctores en USA que son bilingues y estan haciendo mucho mejor que "just fine". Ahora, current affairs will show that you made the right decision. Buena suerte
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Old 04-26-2008, 04:39 PM
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It depends on where you want to practice. I can remember when I was a kid in the emergency room no one spoke spanish. I was the patient and was doing to translation from the doctor to my parents. I remember my mother telling me not to tell the doctor what medications she had given me. I didnt, but looking back I always ask myself what could have happened if a bad reaction who have happend?
But if you would've had a bad reaction, that would've had nothing to do with the language barrier between the doctor and patient. If the doctor was fluent in spanish, the only difference would've been that your mother would've told the doctor that you weren't taking any medications, instead of you having to relay the information.

But I do understand what you are saying about how it depends on where you practice. I personally want to practice in Miami, but the fact that I am not fluent in spanish only means that I won't be seeing spanish patients. However, having been born and raised in Miami, I can say that there are enough people here who speak English, so I don't think it will be much of a problem.
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