UAG vs. SGU vs. Ross...i have no clue - Page 12

Karplus · #**111** (**permalink**) 04-19-2008, 05:04 PM

Yeah you are right this time Rokshana.

Many students do look at DO as a back-up to MD when they shouldn't.
That is what the Carribean (including Grenada) is for.

For disclosure reasons I must say that a lot of people look at Mexican and European schools the same way.

DO has much much more to offer than just a back-up.

But they are hard to hoodwink. My friends who went DO said that they ask lots of questions during the interview about reasons for going DO. They also ask if they know the history behind DO.

Scot959 · #**112** (**permalink**) 04-20-2008, 11:28 PM

I am now in the middle of transferring to another Caribbean school. Unless you are prepared to spend 6 years here and then take the Mexican medical licensing exam in order to apply for the ECFMG!

MedChe · #**113** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Scot959

I am now in the middle of transferring to another Caribbean school. Unless you are prepared to spend 6 years here and then take the Mexican medical licensing exam in order to apply for the ECFMG!

not worth the effort. 6 years?!?! insane

Lucy May · #**114** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MedChe

not worth the effort. 6 years?!?! insane

Ya. Those of us still here have hope of being taken pity on which is why there are still scheduled meetings (next one in July) to work something out. Those in the Aug 2008 class do not have such hope. It's apparent that the AMA is not interested in keeping 5th pathway open. But be aware it had NOTHING to do with UAG or any of its alums. As much as I am grateful for the opportunities UAG has given me, I sort of think they have it coming to them since they've shown little regard for making their program more competitive.

rasputindoc · #**115** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy May

Ya. Those of us still here have hope of being taken pity on which is why there are still scheduled meetings (next one in July) to work something out. Those in the Aug 2008 class do not have such hope. It's apparent that the AMA is not interested in keeping 5th pathway open. But be aware it had NOTHING to do with UAG or any of its alums. As much as I am grateful for the opportunities UAG has given me, I sort of think they have it coming to them since they've shown little regard for making their program more competitive.

July means another 11K in tuition

.....call the AMA and ask them their position on this. Good luck

Lucy May · #**116** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rasputindoc

July means another 11K in tuition

.....call the AMA and ask them their position on this. Good luck

Seriously. Do have a such a personal agenda that you can't wait to tell me and everyone else "I TOLD YOU SOOO SUCKKAH!" if we end up doing six years? Big.Deal. We learn to move on with our lives. Those deep enough into the program have already decided to transfer or are sticking it out. Money isn't an issue at this point.

rasputindoc · #**117** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy May

Seriously. Do have a such a personal agenda that you can't wait to tell me and everyone else "I TOLD YOU SOOO SUCKKAH!" if we end up doing six years? Big.Deal. We learn to move on with our lives. Those deep enough into the program have already decided to transfer or are sticking it out. Money isn't an issue at this point.

if you have to stay because money isnt an issue then stay. Just stop hoping for things that wont happen seriously. I understand anybody in the school in 3rd semester and up staying. 1st and 2nd semester still have a chance to get out but the others doesnt sound like good option after all that money spent. Good luck and hope is the last thing to lose.

salto_jorge · #**118** (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 11:38 PM

I could be completely off on this one from having read other postings.

Seriously what school is accepting UAG students after their first or second semester without the student having to repeat everything?

If you are repeating anything you are throwing out 22K in tuition, or two semesters (one year) which one has been paid up front plus living expenses. In addition, one has wasted an entire year.

It seems that ones total time would then equate to 5 years in "medical school" not four in another school. If one was to spend the 5 at UAG this leaves only one additional year to finish the Mexican program.

Wasting time and money does not solve the problem.

tcatx · #**119** (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 01:17 AM

I'm not sure, but i think what Rasp means is that for someone who is finishing 2nd semester to transfer (even if it means starting over) they will still finish a year earlier than someone who stays (following the 6 year program).

But seriously, to me there isn't that much of a difference between paying back $200,000 or $225,000. Our stress levels are high enough, without having to deal with financial worries on top...

golakers · #**120** (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 01:45 AM

can you choose where you do your clerkships? for example, could i do a few in california and the rest of the core in new york?

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Originally Posted by rokshana

I am a st george's student, not st mathew's

St George's has its own clinical centers and i spent the last two years of my med school education at one of them.

We have our own medical education personnel that schedule all our cores, we are integrated into ACGME residencies for our rotations - ie "teaching hospitals"-(core and electives- just like any mainland med school), st george's has it own preceptors for didactics that are Assistant, Associate, and Full Professors of sgu(so yes, SGU has educated a number of medical students).

Also we have set guidelines and objective set for all rotations, so therefore evey clinical rotation at every different site are set to teach the same things. We have common exams that are administered by SGU staff at each hospital. So for example (while many things are resident and attending specfic) the Clinical center at Maimo in Brooklyn will teach from the same syllabus and course objectives for say internal medicine, that the clinical center at St. Joseph's does.

At my Clinical center, we rotate with other schools, Mt Sinai, UMDNJ, UNE, Kirksville for MD/DO students, and there are PA students from Seton Hall...just like any other hospital used by many US med schools. Are you saying that those students are outside of the US medical system?

The HHC contract made by SGU secures position in all the HHC hospitals (which include Queens Hospital, Kings County, and Bellevue) to be the only Foreign school allowed to have students rotate there. If you dont know- Bellevue is an NYU med school teaching hospital, and Kings Country is one of the main SUNY-Downstate teaching hospitals...

please get your facts straight...while many of the caribbean school do just secure a position at a hospital, SGU has created clinical centers (mainly in the NY/NJ region) that are dedicated to continuity in the clincal education of the medical school-- and these clinical centers are no different than the clinical centers that DO programs have for their students (check out the 3rd/4th year curriculum and placement for Kirksville and UNE) and the practice of having clincal rotations at different hospitals within a region for US schools (both UNC-CH and UVa med school do the same thing, they just keep it within the state).

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