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Old 02-29-2008, 11:18 PM
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The Professional exam is a requirement for ECFMG certification

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No, negative, niente, nein, um.....no. The four year is technically useless in Mexico. You get a diploma, sure, but it doesn't mean anything. For ECFMG you must have the TITULO which is all 6 years (must do the internado, servicio social, and as UAGDOC said, the test as well...)
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6 years route for Canadians?

Hi,

Are Canadians eligible to do the 6 years route towards ECFMG certification?

Thanks.
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A few questions ????

1. In regards to the ECFMG route, has anyone ever done their last 2 years in the US (Internado & Servicio Social)?
2. If so, how was the experience?
3. Does UAG have a list of hospitals in the US for underserved Latino communities where students can study?
4. Do you have to petition the Mexican government to complete the last 2 years in the US or is it already approved in UAG’s 6 year program?

From what I understand thus far in comparing 5th PW and the ECFMG route, the main differences between the two are the extra year (Servicio Social), Titulo, and ECFMG certification, which are not involved in the 5th PW route. But they are still very similar. I know that with the extra year it adds another ~$60,000 to the debt tab, but isn’t it better in the long run to have a full medical degree (ECFMG) than a certificate (5th PW)? I am not trying to trivialize the current situation, but I want to get a better feel for the 6 year-ECFMG route. I am aware that students do not want to waist time with an extra year, but is this the main reason why so many object to it?
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1. In regards to the ECFMG route, has anyone ever done their last 2 years in the US (Internado & Servicio Social)? This is a new approach since most students before us have gone through 5th pathway. Not very much information available on that.
2. If so, how was the experience? see above
3. Does UAG have a list of hospitals in the US for underserved Latino communities where students can study? see above
4. Do you have to petition the Mexican government to complete the last 2 years in the US or is it already approved in UAG’s 6 year program?It is all "in the making" so no definite answer on location or available places. It was mentioned that you might do it at some consulates which is pretty ridiculous so I dont know.

From what I understand thus far in comparing 5th PW and the ECFMG route, the main differences between the two are the extra year (Servicio Social), Titulo, and ECFMG certification, which are not involved in the 5th PW route. But they are still very similar. I know that with the extra year it adds another ~$60,000 to the debt tab, but isn’t it better in the long run to have a full medical degree (ECFMG) than a certificate (5th PW)? I am not trying to trivialize the current situation, but I want to get a better feel for the 6 year-ECFMG route. I am aware that students do not want to waist time with an extra year, but is this the main reason why so many object to it?
My understanding is that the ECFMG route is a "little" bit more complicated and you might have your entrance to residency delayed so it is not as smooth as 5th pathway. Good luck
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Actually more student do the 6 years route than you think. Where do you think all the students go if they don't pass step 1 before going to 5th Pathway? I will get some detail and post it later. The 5th and 6th year combined cost much less than 5th Pathway. The major loss is the 1 year loss of potential income and the extra year of capitalized interest in your loan.
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Actually more student do the 6 years route than you think. Where do you think all the students go if they don't pass step 1 before going to 5th Pathway. I will get some detail and post it later. The 5th and 6th year combined cost much less than 5th Pathway. The major loss is the 1 year loss of potential income and the extra year of capitalized interest in your loan.
I agree. There is a substantial amount of students that dont pass step 1 and they need to do 6 years.
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When I say substantial, I meant we have a good amount of non-native english, semi-native english, completely english-limited speaking community that probably dont pass the USMLE 1 based on this assumption.
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I called the ECFMG office. The lady was very nice and waited while I looked up our school in the IMED database.

Once you register with them as a FM Student, they can ok you for the USMLE step 1

Once you have your titulo, controlled by mexico, and your step 2 completed they can enter you in the match. If, and only if, fifth pathway is truly abolished, this will be our route. But if NYMC keeps its doors open we can do what was 5th pathway year as our intern year.

ECFMG authorization sounds pretty quick. Some of the slow downs come from the school themselves having restrictions in their IMED form.

As far as other bright points, UAG will allow us to go to the US in 7th and 8th now. They may loosen that up if we come back for public service.
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how do these new carrb schools, some of them are only a few years old, how is it they are able send their students back after 4-5 semesters and UAG is not, bc they have not had a need for this type of pathway before or another reason, would someone please elaberate
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these schools and UAG are both considered off shore schools right,
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