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Old 10-04-2007, 09:59 PM
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No more 5th pathway!!!!!!!

I heard that one of the Leanos ( I really dont know who) had a meeting with the 8th semester group doing "Guardias" at the Leano Hospital. He mentioned that this group was going to be last group having access to fifth pathway!!!!!! is this true? The only option available will be to do internado and social service here for the rest of us. I am not trying to scare students or create a rumor. I would like to verify the validity of this statement. Anybody that has 8th semester students as friends, please check on this. I DO NOT want to be here for 6 years!!!!! I rather go caribbean
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:25 PM
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Sounds like a rumor. The Leaños never interact or talk with the students.

It is very disturbing that it could possibly be true, but if the source said that a Leaño was personally talking with students, probability has it being false. Send me some more info and I will check on it.






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I heard that one of the Leanos ( I really dont know who) had a meeting with the 8th semester group doing "Guardias" at the Leano Hospital. He mentioned that this group was going to be last group having access to fifth pathway!!!!!! is this true? The only option available will be to do internado and social service here for the rest of us. I am not trying to scare students or create a rumor. I would like to verify the validity of this statement. Anybody that has 8th semester students as friends, please check on this. I DO NOT want to be here for 6 years!!!!! I rather go caribbean
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Not only that, the school NEVER warns or communicates problems to the students. The just let you find out by yourself.
Have you checked the 5th pathway site?
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Sounds like a rumor. The Leaños never interact or talk with the students.

It is very disturbing that it could possibly be true, but if the source said that a Leaño was personally talking with students, probability has it being false. Send me some more info and I will check on it.
I agree but dont you agree that information like that has to come from the top? I still need to verify the information from the "source" so I am waiting for the phone call.
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could this just be a rumor

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I heard that one of the Leanos ( I really dont know who) had a meeting with the 8th semester group doing "Guardias" at the Leano Hospital. He mentioned that this group was going to be last group having access to fifth pathway!!!!!! is this true? The only option available will be to do internado and social service here for the rest of us. I am not trying to scare students or create a rumor. I would like to verify the validity of this statement. Anybody that has 8th semester students as friends, please check on this. I DO NOT want to be here for 6 years!!!!! I rather go caribbean
this is a direct quote from 5th pathway website
What is a Pathway?
A pathway is an approved avenue to residency training at a U.S. hospital, which completes a medical student’s education. Before 1971, there were four pathways:
  1. Graduation from a U.S. medical school
  2. Certification by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)
  3. Full and unrestricted licensure by a U.S. licensing jurisdiction
  4. Passing the Spanish language licensing examination in Puerto Rico.
But in 1971, a new pathway was created – the Fifth Pathway.
What is the Fifth Pathway?
An avenue by which students who have attended four years at a foreign medical school may complete their supervised clinical work at a U.S. medical school, become eligible for entry to U.S. residency training, and ultimately obtain a license to practice in the U.S.
Who can qualify for a Fifth Pathway?
Only students who:
  1. Graduated from an accredited American college or university;
  2. Studied medicine at a medical school located outside the United States that is listed in World Health Organization's World Directory of Medical Schools and which requires a year or more of internship/social service (beyond the four years of medical school) before receiving a medical degree;
  3. Completed all formal requirements of their foreign medical school except the final year(s) of clinical work/social service.
  4. Students must be a citizen, resident alien, or Canadian Citizen with a student visa.
How are Fifth Pathway students different from International Medical Graduates?
  1. Fifth Pathway students do not graduate from a foreign medical school. They leave early, and complete a final year of medical training in the U.S.
  2. Fifth Pathway students receive no medical diploma from the U.S. medical school sponsoring their Fifth Pathway year of clinical education. They receive a ‘Certificate of Completion,’ which is accepted in lieu of a diploma in virtually all U.S. licensing jurisdictions.
  3. The Fifth Pathway certificate is the Fifth Pathway physician’s medical credential.
How can I verify a physician's Fifth Pathway credentials?
The Fifth Pathway is a relatively rare credential. In the past thirty years, only about seven thousand have been awarded, so approximately 1 percent of practicing physicians in the U.S. hold the credential.
To obtain an AMA Physician Profile to verify a physician's Fifth Pathway credentials, please call (800) 665-2882 or visit the www.ama-assn.org/amaprofiles. Verification can also be achieved by contacting the physician's foreign medical school and the U.S. school that sponsored the physician's Fifth Pathway year.
Current programs
The eligibility requirements to enter a Fifth Pathway program are set by the individual programs. Interested applicants should contact the programs directly for complete information. Currently, the LCME Accredited Medical School Programs that sponsor the 5th Pathway program are:


Unless AMA has cancelled 5th pathway program, then there is no way that uag students can no longer access the 5th pathway program. According to the above information, 8th semester UAG-American students should be meet the qualifications to attend the 5th pathway program. Unless you have an actual piece of evidence that proves AMA has cancelled 5th pathway, then your rumor is only a rumor.

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Not only that, the school NEVER warns or communicates problems to the students. The just let you find out by yourself.
Have you checked the 5th pathway site?
well if this is true, they are acting like you are saying. No communication and we have to find out from actual students. Again, I do need to verify this and hopefully it is just a rumor. I just wanted to make sure that nobody heard this before. I am ready to pack if this is true.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:11 AM
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yes east2west. I understand waht you are saying but you still need the UAG blessing in the form of a diploma or certificate that you completed all the "requirements" according to the institution. So, If UAG doesnt provide that for you, you practically dont qualify for 5th pathway.
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Actually, you do not need any type of diploma of blessing from uag to attend the fifth path way. Here is a line from the description.
Fifth Pathway students do not graduate from a foreign medical school. They leave early, and complete a final year of medical training in the U.S.
If you graduated from 5th pathway, you are consider to be a graduate of the 5th pathway program and not a graduate of uag. What that line tells you is that you do not need uag's blessing or diploma to qualify for the 5th pathway. The only thing you need is the transcripts that prove you finished your four years in uag.
If you believe students need blessing of diploma from uag in order to attend 5th pathway, then can you tell me which line in the ama description states those requirements. 5th pathway is an american program created by ama for americans who studied in a foreign country and its rules are not influence by foreign schools such as uag.

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Unless you have an actual piece of evidence that proves AMA has cancelled 5th pathway, then your rumor is only a rumor.
dude, Read my OP again! I am not trying to prove anything. Hopefully is a rumor. I am just stating what I heard. This is not the CMU forum and students here are well intentioned on the things we post. I am not trying to create "fear" on prospective and current students; I am a current student. I was shocked when I hear this and I just want to clarify if this is true or not.....thats it.
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cmu forum is just too much fun. well, if u can not even prove the rumor, then there is no point for any kind of arguement. If you read the terms of fifth pathway, there is no words in there describe anything about requiring blessing or diploma from the foreign school of education. If you said it is started by one of the leanos, then you have to clarify which leano you are talking about because I believe the leanos have all of their aunts, uncles, cousins, grandkids, inlaws and concubines all over uag.
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