Hello, I am currently a premed student in the US. I am not sure how good my chances are of getting into an American school so I am applying to forein schools. One of the schools I have applied to is UAG. I got an interview. But I have a few concerns. How good really is this school? I mean compared schools in the Caribbean like Ross, St. George's and AUC. Also, what is the UAG conspiracy, I dont wanna go down there and be in jail or something. With Caribbean schools you come back to the US for your 3rd and 4th year, but UAG is 4 years in Mexico, Im confused. What would be the better decision to make? Also, if anyone has any idea about the living standards in Guadalajara can you please let me know. How is the city? Any fun places to visit? English speaking ppl? Nice campus? Decent dorms? Any rats or other unidentified crawling creatures?? Eww ok, well if anyone can fill me in about this school that would be great. Thanks.

Hey there. I'm kind of in the same boat as you are, but without an interview b/c not that far yet, and haven't really applied to any US schools either. The things I do know about Guad is that it is a relatively safe city. I've been there with my wife and her family as they are from there. The country is beautiful, and that region is rich in history and lore. Puerto Vallarta is about 5-6 hours away plus many other beach towns that aren't as crowded. There are a million things to in the city because it is so big. Living conditions aren't as clean as in the US, but you can get pretty good housing in a nice neighborhood and the apartments/ housing would be pretty clean. Guad is very modern and is home to many famous people both from around the world and Mexico. All of the natives that I met were very nice and outgoing towards me and this was even when I wasn't with my family. I felt safe enough to walk around by my self and alot of the locals know English. There are many Americans living there as well, not just for UAG but just to live in this popular city and go to other schools and pursue other interests. My suggestion about living abroad is don't go anywhere you wouldn't go in a big city here in the US. Once you live in one place for a period of time, you get to know your way around and know where to go and who to seek in an emergency. I've been told by my family members that UAG is a pretty good school, but I'm in the process of investigating my options for my self. I plan on going down there soon to have a look for myself and talk to some of the med students. I would also try to get stats on first time pass rates and graduation stats as well as residency and fifth pathway stats. Hope this helps and GOD Bless.

UAG conspiracy was a joke posting.
It was just two of us kidding around.

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There is no conspiracy. I was being sarcastic because we have a few whiners that should be taking meds, or ECT, that think that the world hates them, including UAG.

Anyway, just my two cents, I chose UAG over other options, and in all honesty, I never really considered any other foreign schools. They did not seem to be what I wanted, so I never looked into them. Some may be good schools, but they did not catch my attention. UAG did.

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Dear acgtacgtacgt,
How many times has the MODERATOR warned you not to call names? And to keep this focused? Why did you call me a whiner again? You just dont get it do you. Giving people facts about UAG is what this site is ABOUT! Providing only one sided info, and rebuting anyone who provides 2 sides is not valuable to incomers.
Giving facts is not Whining.
If you think UAG is so great, and the rest of us are just whiners, explain why UAG has a 36% pass rate. I was told by another student that it was posted at the school, and he even sent me a link of proof, on our unofficial UAG info website, www.uagmed.com/usmlerate.htm
I have not seen this paper with my own eyes yet, but it looks legit, and USEFUL to incomers. You better study you butt off if you want to pass, because CLEARLY UAG is not helping much.
Now, you can argue and call me a whiner, but the facts remain.
I have offered valuable info, the purpose of this site. No whining, I passed. But yes, I find it helpful to inform others about what to expect, since no one warned me, and it would have been nice to be prepared.
UAG is a place you can become a doctor. If you want to be a doctor, UAG can get it done. That is the fact.
Just be aware of the bad side so you can come prepared to deal with it.

It is strange. To see these numbers in a report that looks, on the surface, to be official.

I am confused by the fact that the date of the paper is looks like it is set up as a footer that appears in a different space on each page. I am confuse that the us of (R) and TM stamps don't follow usage on other publications by NBME.

I am amazed that I have not been able to reproduce these numbers using the NMBE website or the USMLE website. It is just a little strange. I woudl like to know the source documents and have a moment to critique its entirety.

If this is a common post that comes with all USMLE scores then we should have showers of them from 4th semester students.

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Stovery, the paper you are talking about is not a "fact" it is a paper.

I cannot reproduce it from either the NBME website or the USMLE website. Which puts it in question in my mind. All NBME does is lump all offshore medical schools together for one statistic.

If I posted a paper on the wall, that looked very official, stating that ackackackack was "wanted" "dead or alive" for being a "grammar prude" would that make it a fact. NO

You have posted other "facts" on this website that were proven to be wrong. That means FALSE, as it the opposite of TRUTH. Which could be construed to mean LIES.

You post unecessarily inflammatory information about UAG that is false on its surface.

Your definition of "fact" is severely in question.

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Hi

Were all the UAG students who took that test Americans, or at least native English speakers? I heavily considered going to UAG but ultimately ended up somewhere else. The school seemed great, and the grads in my area were very happy with their decision. I'm not trying to get into the middle of some argument, just curious to know if there were any Mexicans from UAG sitting that exam.

Andy

Half of the class are from Peurto Rico.

You are not in the middle of the argument, you are at the crux of the matter.

More than 50% of our students have a second otion that doesn't include 5thpathway or a return to the upper 48 states.

Peurtorican students can take a Revalida exam which allows them to practice general medicine in PR. SO many do put their best effort into the USMLE first try becuase they are either thinking of Revalida as an out if they don't pass or have already passed the revalida and want to give the USMLE half a chance.

In either situation PRs are not taking the USMLE on the first time with the same mindset.

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Karplus,
I am glad you love UAG, you must love it a lot since you will defend it to no end, and rip every word I say apart.
So you are certainly a member of the conspiracy theory clan.

Do you really think someone would take the time to create this deviation graph and entire report, and..... WHY?
You are obviously claiming there is a conspiracy, whether for or against UAG. In this case against. This is a little too legit for me to believe anyone would take the time to fabricate.
And if they did. I still ask the question why.
Whether fact or information for thought, it is there for all to see and that web site even tells you to verify it yourself....
so do it!