I am sorry if this means I am criticizing your ever word Stoverty. I try not to, but this is misleading.

"So stop blaming everything on everyone else, like you claim I do. I BLAME UAG for the crap they deal out. I paid $16 grand every semester to be there, and I have the right to a quality education.."

Don't worry people. UAG does not cost "$16 grand every semester."

This was probably just a numerical oversite by Stoverty. Maybe he was including rent, cable, books and beer.

You need to half the tution and double the pass rate in your numbers.

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Why? Did I hear someone ask why?

Stovery, we do not know who you are, or who posted the info. If you had a name, maybe we could give more or less value to what you say. However, only a few of us have the balls to say who we really are. So, to us, you could be anyone, as could be the person that posted the information.

Given that fact, you asked why anyone would "...take the time to create this... report...?" I will give you probable reasons - competition and money!

Who is UAG's biggest competitor? Hmmm? Would that be Ross or some other island school? Would they have someone post anything like this? I do not know. Is it possible? Yes. Could you be working for Ross, or some other school to create dissension at UAG and increase transfers? Maybe. We do not know. In fact, we really do not know much about you.

Here is a wild proposal. Medical schools make money. Publicly traded medical schools like to make money. More students equals more money. UAG is owned by the affectionately-called UAG "family" that sometimes seems not to care if they make or lose money. However, some other schools are more aggressive about showing a profit. For example, Ross. Ross generates $62 million a year or more. This School was purchased for $310 million by DeVry. If Ross actually has better pass rates, and could snare a few UAG students by showing something that looks better, would they? I do not know. You ask "Why?" I give you possibilities of why.

When we know who you are, and when we know who posted the information, we will know more. Maybe UAG really does suck compared to some other foreign schools. How would I know from only being at UAG? Ask me about UAG, and I will give you answers you can evaluate based on who I am (i.e., the source). However, when non-verifiable information is posted anonymously, it makes us all ask why.

Personally, I like the numbers "someone" posted better than the percent of persons that somehow finally passed the USMLE given by UAG. The posted numbers could actually give more insight. However, until we can verify the source and the motive, it simply looks like a post made by someone that does not like UAG, thus leading us to make our own assumptions as to "Why?"


Sources supporting my statements:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_6_20/ai_101939872
http://www.investors.devry.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=93880&p=irol-irhome
http://www.devry.edu/ross/

Sam - second semester

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Hi, I posted this question because I wanted some actual helpful information about the school, but all you people seem to be doing is bickering, complaining, and fighting amongst yourselves. I think the whole point of this forum is to try to help others, as well as yourselves. Stoverty, I have a question for you. You claim that neither UAG professor nor their exams prepare students for the USMLE. Then what is the point of going to that school? 99.9% of the students who go to that school from the US plan to come back and practice in the states. If they are not prepared for the boards how do they pass them? Why would one choose to stay at that school once they have come face to face with this epiphany??

Lasko, I am sorry.

Some of us spend too much time on the internet.

If Stoverty wanted to disuade you from coming, he may have succeeded.

Medical students in any environment are competitive. We only bicker among ourselves every once in a while at school.

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Hi Karplus, well I don't think I am that easily swayed where I would completely take a school off my list due to one person's comments. But is what stoverty said true? If not, what is your opinion? How well would you consider UAG prepares students for the USMLE? Also, if you know anything about Caribbean schools, do you think you can give me any ideas as to why one would choose one UAG over the Caribbean? In addition, I'm not sure if you would have much info. on this or not, but do students from UAG ever try to transfer to the US? Have they been successful in their attempts? I know transferring to a US school from the Caribbean is close to impossible, so I was wondering what the chance of that actually happening was at UAG. Your advice would be greatly appreciated...

Sorry Lasko, I am not trying to sway you from going to UAG, but you will be better prepared knowing ahead how to prepare.

Congrats Sam for having "the balls" to say who you are... well, we already know who you are. And Karplus, I dont remember you saying anything about who you are... maybe you could teachs us something about Worms or something eh?

Regardless, You guys waste so much space on here "bickering and argueing". Provide some valuable info, like I do, and make yourselfs useful. You do this in many posts. Lay off the crap, like Cabrillo, wasting all the space trying to rip my words apart... or worse, oooo reveal who I am. hmmm. That seems to be in disagreement of this web sites code, where you must not reveal personal info about individuals. I do not, have not, and will not. You folks with "balls" would probably laugh to realize I could not have the "balls" to day anything. Take it as you wish. I would not tell you anyway, inciting you to then make personal attacks on my self and family and dog etc,. as you have done to others on this site, whom you blamed for me.

I will continue to provide useful info. Take it or leave it. Maybe I work for Ross. That would explain how I know so much about UAG right??? uhhhh, NO, since I must have gone there. Think about it.

In any case. Blasko, I truly feel that UAG is not preparing students for the USMLE in many ways and for many reasons. I am not alone in this feeling, go to UAG and do a survey your self, since any evidence I would offer would be ripped apart (yes cabrillo, its frustrating, yet I love seeing YOU get your feathers ruffled, for no reason in your business).
I feel the students who pass the USMLE have prepared THEMSELVES well by studying, and reading and working hard.
(Yes karplus, I meant every year, tuition is yearly. Thank you for the correction.)

You can pass the USMLE at UAG.
You can do it. Come to UAG. Be informed.
Listen to Karplus talk about worms for a while, listen to Sam talk about Ferrets. You will gain almost as much as listening to Dr M.

No one knows how well a school will prepare them for the USMLE.
Sadly it is individual. I have not taken the USMLE 1 yet.
I am sure I will do fine, but in my own estimation I am a genius.

I am viewing lectures from both UAG and UPenn. They are different and the same. In general you will have to get the information into your head.

I know that there are over 7000 5th pathway doctors in the U.S.
This is from the website of the AMA.
5th pathway is where most of the UAG students go.

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Thanks Stoverty and Karplus. Would either of you happen to have any info. on the other questions I had regarding transferring from UAG to an American school, and why UAG would be a better option than Caribbean schools or vice versa. Thanks..

I have attached a copy of the web site and the message board of this forum and send an email to the NBME. Because the information posted about the passing rate is a serious offence to their polices and regulations.

The NBME does not send information to the UAG or any other office in the world about the performance of the UAG students... People that claim to have this information is either lying or had committed a breach in this privacy regulation... created to defend the privacy of students. In this case, the information posted has nothing to do with the actual UAG passing rate of the Step 1.

What you see on the pictures, is a STEP 1 mock exam report, purchase at a rate of 45 dollars, to prepare yourself for the Step 1. This exam is sold online, after you answered the test; the NBME compares your performance to other students of your school (those who already purchase the test previously) and students around the world, at the end it provides you with a performance in specific topics and a final score that has a correlation score to the actual Step 1.
Not all the students take this NBME test and not all the students are prepared to take the test…
This information is not related to the actual UMSLE Step 1 passing rate. This information is confidential.

Stroverty.... As a professor we make our own tests, the idea is to make the questions very similar to the STEPS, the administration only takes care about the logistics. Please don’t post unfounded information.

And the UAG DO prepares you to take the USMLE. We take this so seriously the students dedicate 16 weeks of your second year (4th semester) to review all the material and for the student to really study, Kaplan is in charge of this review at a very accessible price… like 50% less than the actual Kaplan Course fee, and the best thing… the course is inside campus, you don’t have to travel.

I will post again with the NBME reply.

Dr. Eduardo Daniel Rosas Blum

I have never posted information about you that YOU havent provided to us. Read your posts stoverty and figure it out yourself. I really dont want to spend the time quoting you on some on your posts revealing that you are a second semester student. I understand that sometimes you are so careless in your posts that you "give away" information about youself. Maybe when you are "laughing and relaxing" your mind doesnt work accordingly. I really dont care who you are or what you do, family or not, gay or straight, fat or skinny....all I care is that every post that you make is negative towards UAG but still you are at UAG . So, I guess UAG is not that bad at all . I mean I understand that you lack major common sense but if you really believe that UAG is not preparing you to make the transition to the US...what are you doing at UAG? as a consequence you have to understand why some people in this forum think that you work for another caribbean medical school or some crazy stuff like that. It is just incredible and amazing to understand this fact and probably people here make their own conclusions based on that. Have you ever thought about the reason why we "waste" so much time "ripping off" your comments? because they dont make sense and they malintencioned. As a consequence, by normal logic the main reason why we waste so much time is.......YOU. You make us waste the time with comments out of context. YOU are the food that eventually will turn into excrement and come out of my system as waste. I have no idea what you mean by..."yes cabrillo, its frustrating, yet I love seeing YOU get your feathers ruffled, for no reason in your business)." I dont have any problems or anything like that so if you are making somebody else's life "uncomfortable" or creating problems thinking that you are doing it to me...shame on you but sorry you got the wrong guy . I hope that this is not getting out of hand because at the end you will lose; I will guarantee it. So, lets hope that this comment was a lack of proper english of your part and that you didnt mean what I think you meant. I have enough information to know who you are and if you are threatening me in any way I will proceed the best way I can . So, Relax. This is just a forum and opinions are expressed so take it or leave it.