Thread: Do the Irish schools deserve their rampant tuitions? If yes, how? .. and a document..

Guys I loose my temper when I see someone suck someone else please read the argument below and share your thoughts.. I really wonder how you the people reason that "IRISH SCHOOLS ARE GOOD" paradigm, if you do:

I checked twice one of them, and it was 31.000Euro/year.. which makes 31.000x6=186.000Euro.. which makes 186.000x(appr)1,44=$267.840.. add over this the cost of living, which is not cheap as well.. oha!.. which means whoa! in Turkish, not literally of course really which of those best med schools (in or out of US) earn over med students this much!? Some years ago even Harward, which was top first then, was about $200.000.. To deserve this they must have something special.. what is that?

Later I made a quick (may be too quick!, I dunno) comparison between the services and their presentation on the websites of the med schools, the best ones, and I realized that this Irish school, at least the one I checked, was selling the school in a 5-star touristic hotel frame.. I havent seen such a sales among all those US med school, neither in Harvard, nor in Vanderbilt, Texas... none! In the websites of those best schools they had a very serious, academical aura, while that Irish school had a high quality touristic place aura which is well tailored for the wealthy..

Of course there should be a high academical quality as well, but how good? Or in better words, what extra thing do they offer to deserve that tuition?

The lack of concrete info about academical stuff, and instead the website's too much touristic design created question marks in my mind.. for now I watch them with a sceptical eye.. but of course in Europe it may be the best among med programs in English (out of England), though I am not sure about that as well..

How do you think? I dont want to position myself to a specific point of view and if they are doing something more than using the trend of todays conjuncture and selling for a high price, its ok and better.. I simply want to understand..
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By the way, here is a 2010 study of CARMS, a non-profit, and see how the Irish and Polish are close to each other by various criteria.. so much that I got suspicious about CARMS , but its not a company (though the data is insufficient):
http://www.carms.ca/pdfs/2010_CSA_Re...CSA_Report.pdf

I would recommend talking with the experts at Atlantic Bridge: US and Canadian students studying medicine, dentistry, and veterinary medicine in Ireland. They will know, or they will put you in touch with someone who knows.

I've only started researching the Irish schools. The way I see it though:
what folks are paying for is
a) EXTREMELY wide acceptability:
EU/British Commonwealth/USA
b) a better than average access to Irish residency training-one of the VERY few
graduate training that is recognized in some US states
c) developed country amenities
d) an english speaking community
e) clinical rotations that appear to be _humane_(not the insane hours found in some countries)
f) a chance to learn from doctors in a health care system that by key measures outperforms the USA

My guess is that the "bang for the buck" is better in some other countries-but really compared to the USA,
Irish schools may offer better value than many of them-say if you want to practice in Maine or the EU, you might actually be just as well off with an Irish MD/residency as a US MD/residency-but I'd look REALLY carefully on this one.

g) Irish schools-like Jag are schools that have their own hospitals and rotations.

HMI and the Carribean schools-and UERM/Fatima's US rotations are a different kind of experience I think.