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Old 06-25-2007, 02:27 AM
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It is my understanding that MOST ALL stateboards will not accept this type of "medical education" for licensure. I do realize there may be some historical exceptions.

In particular I would direct u to UHSA while the institution has existed for quite some time...I'm not too sure they have very many licensed practioners!

What's the point of pursuing a M.D. degree in which u have little or no chance to get US LICENSE? So I'm not sure of the allure these types of institutions have on some people.
the online programs attract alot of chiros, podiatrists, dentists and particualrly nutritionists. all these allied professionals look for the extra marketing that adding a M.D. to their signs will bring.

imagine how much more weight the advice carries of a nutrionist with a perceived MD

or the chiros that sell vitamins or tells you about reflexology or magnet therapy when they are also a MD..i mean if a MD is not practicing western medicine
and has turned to alternative med then that is something isn't it?

what about a dentist that also has physican and surgeon on the door? many patients feel better and seek out dentists who they perceive as better trained i mean a dentist and a surgeon working on your mouth or just a regular tooth cleanin' dentist?

some states regulate who can advertise themselves as a MD some don't...some enforce it some may be lax but even in places that are enforced you can probably get away with it for months to years at a time then when you get cited just close up and open under a different business name....
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Dentist by definition are dental surgeons, that is what I have found out from all US dental programs. There are even programs that qualify them to become Maxillofacial surgeons. I perceive them as a totally different breed than Chiros , Podiatrist (whom by the way have residency programs in foot and ankle r-constructive surgery), Optometrists, etc.

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the online programs attract alot of chiros, podiatrists, dentists and particualrly nutritionists. all these allied professionals look for the extra marketing that adding a M.D. to their signs will bring.

imagine how much more weight the advice carries of a nutrionist with a perceived MD

or the chiros that sell vitamins or tells you about reflexology or magnet therapy when they are also a MD..i mean if a MD is not practicing western medicine
and has turned to alternative med then that is something isn't it?

what about a dentist that also has physican and surgeon on the door? many patients feel better and seek out dentists who they perceive as better trained i mean a dentist and a surgeon working on your mouth or just a regular tooth cleanin' dentist?

some states regulate who can advertise themselves as a MD some don't...some enforce it some may be lax but even in places that are enforced you can probably get away with it for months to years at a time then when you get cited just close up and open under a different business name....
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Dentist by definition are dental surgeons, that is what I have found out from all US dental programs. There are even programs that qualify them to become Maxillofacial surgeons. I perceive them as a totally different breed than Chiros , Podiatrist (whom by the way have residency programs in foot and ankle r-constructive surgery), Optometrists, etc.

Interesting nevertheless.
i know that, you know that, and medical people know that but ask an evg person on the street and most think the dentist just does tooth extractions and cleanings. if you are in a dense area with a lot of competition every bit of marketing helps. yea i heard about the pods doing ankle stuff, people on the pod forum said that the resideincies for it were few and far between though. the only "surgeries" i saw billed for podiatrists were for bunionectomies and hammer toe corrections
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i know that, you know that, and medical people know that but ask an evg person on the street and most think the dentist just does tooth extractions and cleanings. if you are in a dense area with a lot of competition every bit of marketing helps. yea i heard about the pods doing ankle stuff, people on the pod forum said that the resideincies for it were few and far between though. the only "surgeries" i saw billed for podiatrists were for bunionectomies and hammer toe corrections
Still, would you want a trained MD to be the one restarting your heart if you had something happen during a dental procedure or a DDS with a store bought MD degree (never licensed)?

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Yep, marketing and perceptions

Yes, the perception out there about a dentists responsibilities is rather limited. Not until you read their diploma's carefully is that you realize the true nature of their functions...Doctor of Dental Surgery. They even get to gas you and all that, ask the average Family doctor to try to do that.

On the podiatry note, all I can say is in 28 years of Kyokushinkai training and competition, I have sustained severel foot and ankle injuries and have been treated by many ortho specialist. I also remember one instance that I was treated by a foot and ankle sugeon, he was a podiatrist and did a great job on my right foot. No complaints with it. That most good foot and ankle residencies are tough to get into, it should be that way.

One last note, about the dentists, are't they supposed to be qualified to work on your heart in case something bad happens during a procedure? Any REAL dentist (DDS or DMD) out there who can answer this ?

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Yes, a DDS or DMD can carry out ACLS, and function much like any other doctor. Remember, dental school is just as hard to get into, and is much harder than an off shore MD to obtain. Further, I'm in a huge hospital where everything is done by specialists. Many DDS's and DMD's have OR privs and do very complicated work under the gas there. Never sell those guys short. They know the head and neck like you wouldn't believe.
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Texas: Karachi Medical College & Jinnah Medical College

Hi Folks,

Had a quick question for the experienced:

Can graduates of Karachi Medical College and Jinnah Medical College practice in the great state of Texas? Residency? MD License? The list of approved colleges for Texas does not have them listed (only aku, dow, sindh and baqai are listed).

Please advise.

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Hi Folks,

Had a quick question for the experienced:

Can graduates of Karachi Medical College and Jinnah Medical College practice in the great state of Texas? Residency? MD License? The list of approved colleges for Texas does not have them listed (only aku, dow, sindh and baqai are listed).

Please advise.

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Anyone Rossies and/or West Indies medical schools know of and/or heard of any students doing their clniicals in Canada? Please PM with knowledge. Thanks.
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I just found the following link. Anyone from US who is considering OUM MUST look at it and then MUST contact state boards themselves either via email or phone and get first-hand information from the state boards themselves regarding online component in medical education and whether they will give license to someone whose MD program included online basic science curriculum. OUM for some reason is unable to provide information regarding states which would give license to OUM grads.

It is important to be aware that being able to take USMLE exams and then doing residency in the US does NOT mean you will get licensed to practice medicine in the states!! Everyone needs to understand this clearly before considering OUM. It appears to be a great curriculum and PBL sounds very good for self-motivated people. But IMO anyone who wants to practice medicine in US MUST contact all state boards themselves and confirm whether they will be able to practice medicine after residency if their MD is from OUM that has online basic science curriculum. Good luck and please post your responses from state boards so that it will be useful to others.

If you dont already know, state of California is VERY opposed to OUM or any other MD program with any online component so OUM grads will never be able to get licensed in CA. And if CA does not approve then there are other states that simply follow CA rules and so you wont be able to get licensed in those states either. These include OR, NM, GA,WA, etc

Make sure you ask the states specifically about online component and licensing rules of the state in regards to online component because many states may simply say that they will approve as long as its ECFMG certified BUT when you actually apply, they might object because there is online component in your MD degree. So everyone should contact individual states themselves and be VERY CLEAR on ALL the DETAILS and discuss EVERYTHING about the OUM curriculum in detail with the medical board.

The post is under state licensing requirements: online classes and state licensure posted by neilc.
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