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Old 04-12-2005, 11:54 PM
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Not a fair thing to say...

I am sorry that some feel that since they are not affected by the Ca medical board discrimination currently, makes it o.k!
IF you were in the previous classes where it would effect you not being licensed in CA, I am certain that you wouldn't be arguing this matter so unfairly.

So, if you aren't effected by this, great, but don't cheer on the injustice!
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:21 AM
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CA advocate, I feel for all past grads. My advice is that we got to be careful to make a good battle at the end and not to lose out.

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:46 AM
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

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I am sorry that some feel that since they are not affected by the Ca medical board discrimination currently, makes it o.k!
IF you were in the previous classes where it would effect you not being licensed in CA, I am certain that you wouldn't be arguing this matter so unfairly.

So, if you aren't effected by this, great, but don't cheer on the injustice!
They knew that they were attending a school that was not approved by California, and they willingly attended. Nobody, including the State of California, forced them to attend - hence, it's not discrimination.

I made the decision that I wouldn't attend any school not approved by the Cal Med Bd, not because I want to practice in California (being a Cali native, it's about the last place in the world I want to live), but because the Cal approval indicates a certain level of legitimacy. So, I didn't even consider such institutions as Spartan, St. Chris, or any of the others...

Now, whining crybabies who understood the rules and agreed (at least tacitly) to them want them changed. Tough pooh pooh, you knew what you were signing up for. Immature and asinine posturing now about how "unfair" it is, how it's descrimination, how you're going to sue the state, the med board, the employees of the board like Pat Park (who is the finest State Employee I've ever had to deal with) aren't going to achieve your goals which themselves are inherently unfair to those who actually read, understand, and follow the rules.

Thousands of grads of California approved schools understood the rules before hand - and agreed to them. What else do you cretins want? Is the oxidative phosphorylation pathway too tough so you're going to sue someone to change that?
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

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I am sorry that some feel that since they are not affected by the Ca medical board discrimination currently, makes it o.k!
IF you were in the previous classes where it would effect you not being licensed in CA, I am certain that you wouldn't be arguing this matter so unfairly.

So, if you aren't effected by this, great, but don't cheer on the injustice!
They knew that they were attending a school that was not approved by California, and they willingly attended. Nobody, including the State of California, forced them to attend - hence, it's not discrimination.

I made the decision that I wouldn't attend any school not approved by the Cal Med Bd, not because I want to practice in California (being a Cali native, it's about the last place in the world I want to live), but because the Cal approval indicates a certain level of legitimacy. So, I didn't even consider such institutions as Spartan, St. Chris, or any of the others...

Now, whining crybabies who understood the rules and agreed (at least tacitly) to them want them changed. Tough ****, you knew what you were signing up for. Immature and asinine posturing now about how "unfair" it is, how it's descrimination, how you're going to sue the state, the med board, the employees of the board like Pat Park (who is the finest State Employee I've ever had to deal with) aren't going to achieve your goals which themselves are inherently unfair to those who actually read, understand, and follow the rules.

Thousands of grads of California approved schools understood the rules before hand - and agreed to them. What else do you cretins want? Is the oxidative phosphorylation pathway too tough so you're going to sue someone to change that?
you're a **** (is that better?)...
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

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you're an idiot...

And you're (edited to comply with TOS). Got a point to make? You know, something to actually refute the points that I made?
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

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you're an idiot...

And you're a slack-jawed illiterate half-wit. Got a point to make? You know, something to actually refute the points that I made?
slack-jawed?!? that's a bit harsh. half-wit? depend on who you asked... but illiterate? hells no... my point is that you come across as a ----... besides the point that i was one of those saba students who missed the boat by one semester, you comments are antagonistic for no reason what so ever... considering it was MY class that aced steps 1 and 2, nailed residencies in anesthesia, radiology, neurosurgery, ophtho... it would be nice for US to benefit from california approval... the date, as far as everyone is concerned, was completely arbitrary...
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hahahahaha

did you not know that Saba was not approved when you went?

the fault is ENTIRELY the students...CA has no obligation to approve a school that they did not evaluate...and the SABA that was around before the site visit was not evaluated. so, apparently they felt that they had reasonable evidence that the school was adequate up to two years before the visit. before that time, they were less confident.

i am loving this so much! students that refuse to accept responsibilty for knowing the consequences of their actions. i cannot wait to see the huge waste of time and money that comes from this...a state has the authority and responsibilty to decide how to license doctors. CA has a simply process, open to all schools. yet, the students that can't get into the better schools and go knowing fully well that they may be out of luck in CA are now upset...mein gott in himmel!

have fun guys!
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

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you're an idiot...

And you're a slack-jawed illiterate half-wit. Got a point to make? You know, something to actually refute the points that I made?
slack-jawed?!? that's a bit harsh. half-wit? depend on who you asked... but illiterate? hells no... my point is that you come across as an butthole... besides the point that i was one of those saba students who missed the boat by one semester, you comments are antagonistic for no reason what so ever... considering it was MY class that aced steps 1 and 2, nailed residencies in anesthesia, radiology, neurosurgery, ophtho... it would be nice for US to benefit from california approval... the date, as far as everyone is concerned, was completely arbitrary...
"hells no" - illiterate.

As far as your complaints, what exactly did the California Medical Board, or Saba promise you when you signed up?

What exactly did they do to renege on that promise?

Demanding / expecting that an arbitrary date be "adjusted" to accomodate your class is itself arbitrary - where would you have them stop? Should the board have only approved graduates starting with the semester 1 class that was there when they conducted the site visit? Should they have grandfathered everyone who ever graduated from Saba?

You knew exactly what you were getting into. Your complaints that you "almost" qualified are as legitimate as saying you "almost" won the California Lottery a couple of weeks ago - you only missed the $72 million by one digit in each of the numbers.
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Re: Not a fair thing to say...

you are both risking formal warnings. If your posts are not edited to remove these insuts and languge issues, you'll receive warnings for each violation.
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