Fight Now, Medical Board To Vote

[IMG2006]

The GA medical board is scheduled to vote on the "blue/green" issue on April 6th of this year.

Opposition to this rule can be submitted via mail to:

Re: rule 360-2-02(c)3 now be renumbered 360-2-.02(c)4.

Diane Atkinson, CSBME
2 Peachtree St., NW
Atlanta, GA 30303-3465

or by email to:
matkinson@dch.state.ga.us


These comments must be submitted by March 23rd in order to have them placed on the agenda.

Here are some points you may take issue with:

1-Students who have completed all 4 years of medical education in another country do not have their clerkships evaluated. They are licensed based only upon the completion of the USMLEs and 3 years of residency. If these people have demonstrated that they are fit for licensure, why then should clerkships in the US be so scrutinized?

2-The rule, if enacted, will forever ban anyone who cannot get a hospital to stamp EVERY SINGLE MINUTE of clerkship time from licensure in GA, despite any achievements this physician may make in his/her career.

3- US students frequently rotate in settings which are not limited to ACGME teaching hospitals (clinics, etc). Why should this satisfy their requirements, but not those of an IMG

4- Given the population growth in this country and the lack of growth in medical education, this is an irresponsible policy, which will limit the opportunity of residency trained, board certified doctors to practice in GA.

5- This policy encourages the licensure of those who are less familiar with US healthcare systems, over those who have completed only course work abroad. This touches upon issues including, but not limited to, immigration in a post 9/11 US, language skills, and culture/customs issues.

By showing your support of IMGs who have passed their boards and have completed residency, you are striking a blow for all of us in all states. Our inaction on these issues, no matter where they are, has allowed us to be mistreated and subjected to bias and discrimination for far too long. I URGE YOU ALL to make your voice heard and to fight against this unfair ruling. Copy and send this message to all of your friends and to doctors who will support this cause. We only have a few weeks before IMGs in GA are forever shut out. If we allow this trend to continue, then you can expect more states to follow. On the other hand, if we can begin to roll back the tide of prejudice, I believe that we will be one step closer to equality and to gaining the momentum needed to garner equal rights in our own country.

[isa]

I have for sure seen DO students do core rotations in hospitals that are not aoa or acgme...I have seen US students do a huge portion of their psych core in hospitals that are not acgme...I have many other examples.....
Stupid rules

[IMG2006]

Originally Posted by isa

I have for sure seen DO students do core rotations in hospitals that are not aoa or acgme...I have seen US students do a huge portion of their psych core in hospitals that are not acgme...I have many other examples.....
Stupid rules

I have as well... It's crazy. I have rotated side by side with US students in hospitals that may not be able to certify MY rotations. Pardon my French, but that is 100% bullpooh pooh. I think that pretty clearly shows that my rotations are equal training and also that this rule is designed to keep us out once we have slaved for 3-8 years in training. It isn't right. Please, send your comments along to the board. The more opposition we generate, the better. If we can overturn just one of these rules, then we can gain momentum nation-wide.

[solideliquid]

IMG2006-

Can you tell me where you got this info?

What are they voting on exactly you didn't explain that too well.

And finally, if the vote goes against IMGs, does it mean people can't get the educational lisence during residency?

[IMG2006]

Originally Posted by solideliquid

IMG2006-

Can you tell me where you got this info?

What are they voting on exactly you didn't explain that too well.

And finally, if the vote goes against IMGs, does it mean people can't get the educational lisence during residency?

From the medical board, I am on the mailing list. You can view a PDF copy on the website:

www.medicalboard.georgia.gov


They are voting on whether or not to continue to require students of non-LCME schools who complete clinical clerkships in the US to do so ONLY in ACGME acredited teaching hospitals. If you view the application for licensure, you will find the IMG only section requires that each clerkship be stamped with the Hospital seal.


No, you can still do your residency. You just won't be able to practice after you have spent 3 years killing yourself.

[LastDance]

img2006, i'm confused... if this amendment passes... how does it affect img's? so what your saying is that carrib. grads will be ableto do residency in georgia but not get licensed in georga?? why?? and what does it mean to get something "stamped" by the hospital?? thanks for clearing this up

[Scott1981]

whats the big deal of doing all your rotations in green book hospitals? im not taking any chances. im gonna be proactive and do all my rotations green book even though they may not be necessary in my state.

[LastDance]

What does "green book" mean and how do you check which hospitals are green book or otherwise?

thanks

[teratos]

Mnay states already have these requirments. It isn't a big issue getting all of your rotations verified. Your school should do that without much difficulty. G

[IMG2006]

Originally Posted by LastDance

img2006, i'm confused... if this amendment passes... how does it affect img's? so what your saying is that carrib. grads will be ableto do residency in georgia but not get licensed in georga?? why?? and what does it mean to get something "stamped" by the hospital?? thanks for clearing this up

Correct, in fact, that is the case in most of the 20 or so states with such requirments. Residents work under a "training permit," which is not a license. Students commonly make the mistake of thinking that once they see residents from their schools in a state that this means they will be able to practice there.