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Old 04-05-2008, 08:11 PM
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A list of states

I was on here about 6 months ago and someone had posted a complete list of all states that disprove of SMU grads getting licensed. It was very well organized and simple. I cannot find that post now and the current sticky is a total mess, just 30 pages of babling and nonsense. Can an admin please just find the thread and post the list to simplify things for us. Thanks
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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no administrators from smu are on valuemd
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:38 PM
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OK lets start a list in alphabetical order

From Wikipedia, please cut and past and add on alphabetically to my list, thanks guys
  • California
  • Indiana
  • Kansas
  • North Dakota
  • Texas
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the short list

1.Cali
2.Indiana
3.Kansas
4.Texas (not on approved list, does not mean disapproved rather case by case)
5.Tennesses (i believe case by case)
6. All other states that follow Cali rules (not sure what they are)
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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ok so updated gives us 6 so far

LIST OF SCHOOLS WITH LICENSING ISSUES FOR SMU
California
Indiana
Kansas
North Dakota
Tenessee (case by case)
Texas (case by case)
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:36 PM
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Just to let you know...there are current residents in Texas from SMU. Also, I heard of someone getting a residency spot in Kansas from a Caribbean school (forgot which one now) that is newer than SMU. It was only residency, but that surprised me.
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:35 AM
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the short list

1.Cali
2.Indiana
3.Kansas
4.Texas (not on approved list, does not mean disapproved rather case by case)
5.Tennesses (i believe case by case)
6. All other states that follow Cali rules (not sure what they are)

fortunately, i care about none of those states.

but #6 worries me. The United States of California are growing.
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I know

Yes, that is correct, the united states of california is growing. Cali pisses me off. Cut us a freaking break Cali, we all take the same USMLE. I would say a new state is added to the "I do whatever CA does" list every couple months. Two years ago CA was the only state with issues, now I think there are a dozen or so and growing. Thats why I am trying to compile a list so we can try to extrapolate the rate of growth for this monster and determine where we will be in 10 years. Hopefully, there will be some states left! We need good SMU grads to blaze a trail and get licensed in as many states as possible before we loose them all.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:59 PM
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dont worry smu will get california in 2 yrs so no worries, well We can all dream. But lets help this is true.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:48 PM
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what about Massachusetts

what about Mass

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I copied and pasted the message bellow from the SMU official forum. This should be made a sticky so that prospective student know what is going on. Furthermore, this can eliminate all cali questions.


"I emailed CA today about our status at SMU, as well as requirements for licensure concerning ACGME-accredited rotations. Here is the email...

I hope that past and current St. Matthew's students realize that they are not eligible to train in or become licensed in California. Because St. Matthew's University is a disapproved school, no coursework completed at St. Matthew's can be applied toward the requirements to train in or become licensed in California.

To date, St. Matthew's University has not applied for recognition by the California Board. In the future, St. Matthew's University could remedy its deficiencies and then reapply and request the California Medical Board to reevaluate the school. It's possible that the Board would grant St. Matthew's recognition after a new site inspection, if they are satisfied with the improvements that the school has made. It would take the Board several years to complete the new review process and reach a decision.

However, if St. Matthew's gains recognition in the future, the recognition will be PROSPECTIVE from the date of the decision. Only those students who enroll in the school AFTER the decision date will be eligible to train in or become eligible for licensure. Previous St. Matthew's students/graduates will not be eligible for "grandfathering" or "individual review" or other such devices. They will not be able to practice medicine in California, regardless of whether they train in or obtain licensure in another state.

No Californian should be training in an unrecognized or disapproved medical school. Offshore school administrators should not enroll Californians based on optimistic promises to obtain California recognition in the future or to win lawsuits against the California Medical Board.

If you would like to become eligible to train in or become licensed in California, you will need to transfer into a California-recognized medical school and repeat ALL coursework you completed at St. Matthew's or any other medical school that the California Board doesn't recognize or has disapproved.

If you complete any part of your medical education in an unrecognized or disapproved school, you will need to plan a medical career in another state that recognizes the school's education and diplomas.

To respond to your question about California's clinical training requirements, California law requires 72 weeks of clinical training. A total of 54 weeks of training, including all cores, must be completed in approved teaching hospitals. Up to 18 weeks of electives may be completed in non-approved facilities. St. Matthew's students cannot complete any clinical training in California facilities of any type, as this would constitute a misdemeanor criminal offense.
Pat Park, Foreign Schools Liaison, Medical Board of California"
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