Does anyone have any recent info regarding california approval, USMLE stats, Match lists before 2005, etc?

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What the California medical board doing is completely out of their boundary. They are only a medical board, not the department of education. How can they approve or disapprove any medical schools? Do any of the board members have a degree in education?

Any educational institution can flourish or perish. How can the board guarantee that once one particular school is approved, it will withhold its standard forever? And if they want to approve any medical schools, shouldn't they also start to “regulate” those nursing schools? I don’t think that they have gone to Philippine and other countries to approve those nursing schools? There are many medical schools around the world, does the board plan to approve all the medical schools in the world? Those board members simply have too much time on their hand, and they are clearly abusing their power.

It is utterly ridiculous for them to say that “If you would like to become eligible to train in or become licensed in California, you will need to transfer into a California-recognized medical school and repeat ALL coursework you completed at St. Matthew's or any other medical school that the California Board doesn't recognize or has disapproved.”

Yes, every California wants to transfer to a California medical school. However, many well qualified Californian students are forced to go to schools at other states or outside the country, because the state does not have enough medical schools for all! We should not be judged by which school we go to, we should only be judged by the knowledge that we have. Our founding father has clearly stated “all men are created equal.” If a Californian medical student can pass all three steps of USMLE, why should s/he still be rejected by the board? Those board members obviously know that to be a good physician is a life long time of learning. Merely two years of medical basic science education certainly can’t provide enough information to be a good physician.

It is clear that many offshore students are not white, and many are immigrants. Could this be a case of racial discrimination? If all the offshore students are Caucasians, would the board still be so strict? However, the fact is that we are all citizens of USA. We can not take it any longer, we can no longer keep quiet. When we face the injustice, we have to stand up and fight against.

Therefore, we Californians should unite, and get our politicians involved. Governor Schwarzenegger himself is an immigrant, he came to this land of opportunity, and became who he is today. If he can do it, why should we residents of California be forced to live outside California in order to practice medicine?

Every Californian student should write emails or use other methods to contact the governor, senators, and their local congressmen. Each individual school can only do things under their own limitations. We have the voting power, and together, we should make California a land of opportunity, a place of equal treatment for all medical students!

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When it comes to schools and students allowed to practice in California, my country, which has schools with no USMLE prep courses, no research labs and are deficient in even the lesser, and their students who came over here are often working as "whatever," because they can't pass the board...are fully accredited by California.
Just for some reasons, I will not mention the name of that Land (Political ones)...
That tells me a lot about that State!! Questions????? Weird!!!!!
Why do you think I did not go to school there? I was not gonna pay a dime for such...
It's hard to believe this is happening in the old USA!!!!!
Thank God I live in NJ....

To every land, it's mistery and deceptions!

Golds of a State, State of no gold; just a chattered glory (Rome)

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Something that bothers you, just flush it off and wipe the remaining patiently. RS-Stanislas

Just go to a California approved school. It is not that hard.

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Feel free to use the following letter and add your own information.

Dear Governor Schwarzenegger:

I am a medical student at St. Matthew’s University, school of medicine in the Caribbean region. Through out the years, our medical school has educated many well qualified physicians who are practicing medicine all over the United States. My school is not approved by the California medical board; therefore, I am banned from practicing medicine even if I have a medical license from another state for my lifetime.

Our great state only has so few medical schools. Each year, many of us are forced to go to other medical schools in other states. There are still some states don’t even have one single medical school even today. Some of us are forced to go to offshore medical schools because of that. Many medical schools in our country also discriminate against physician assistants, nurses, etc. Those people who want to study to be doctors have no choice, but to go to a Caribbean medical schools which are created by Americans and for American students with the same medical education format.

Here at my school, most of us are first or second generations of non-white immigrants. We were not lucky enough to have a good education from day one. However, that does not mean that we can’t be good doctors. We are determined enough to study medicine in a third world country.

As you probably know, practicing medicine is a lifetime learning process. Two years of basic medical science training at another country is simply not enough. We really start to learn about medicine when we start our rotations at US hospitals for another two more years. Because California medical board banned our school, we are forced to rotate at hospitals at other states.

Further, even after we pass all three steps of United States Medical License Examinations (USMLE), and get our medical license at another state, we are still banned from practicing medicine in California for lifetime. On the other hand, the California medical board allows medical students and physicians of other countries, such as Bahrain, Burundi, Togo, Zambia, Zimbabwe to do rotations and practice medicine in California freely.

Also, the recognized medical school list is biased and full of mistakes. For example, it approved two Cuban medical schools which is a country that US still has sanctions against, but none from North Korea. It also listed “Saint John’s University” in China which does not even exist.

Our state always has a shortage of well trained physicians. Why hire physicians of other countries, when there are many of us ready to come back and serve the people of California.

Our founding father clearly stated “all men are created equal.” And some people also say that this is a land of opportunity or even a land of second opportunity. We are not asking for special treatment. Any US medical students who pass step one of USMLE is allowed to do hospital rotations in California. Why can’t we be allowed to come back to California to do our rotation if we pass Step one. And why can’t we practice medicine if we pass all three steps of USMLE, and get a medical license at another state? The California medical board does not even give us an opportunity to prove for who we are.
In conclusion, please look into this matter, we want to come back and serve our state.

Thank you very much.

i think gov arnie could use a good laugh. he is having a rough time in CA about now. send it along!

hehehhe. i wish i was in his office! i can hear them laughing at you now...."so, wait...this guy was not smart enough to go to an approved CA school, and he thinks we should let him in here? good one!"

Just because someone has a problem with the fact that Cali. doesn't investigate every school that's consider "Off Shore" doesn't mean that that individual wants to practice in the state of Cali. I personally don't see what the big deal is with Cali. anyway. I have lived there and it's no different than any other state if you ask me. If you want an advantage then practice in N.H where you don't have to pay taxes.

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Or maybe he'll realize that there is something wrong with the Cali report. I really don't care about California, but New York and Florida approved SMU that is all I need. I can't believe that the CMB approved certain schools in some third world countries that I am sure have medical schools whose curriculum/facilities are inferior to SMUs. With this point, I just can't see the logic to why some schools in these countries are approved and SMU is not. Sorry, I do see a point to CE post. My heart goes out to all the people from California who are enrolled at SMU, and the people of California who could have been served by the great physicians produced by SMU.

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