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Old 08-12-2007, 05:47 PM
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just to clear up confusion... for all those ppl out there who are so worried about california --> cali will not appprove for rotations or residencies in the state, BUT once you finished residency anywhere and become the MD you want, you can PRACTICE anywhere!!.... cali wont let you do rotations or residencies but you CAN practice there once you do a residency elsewhere, i.e. NY, FL, MI, wherever....
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:12 PM
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just to clear up confusion... for all those ppl out there who are so worried about california --> cali will not appprove for rotations or residencies in the state, BUT once you finished residency anywhere and become the MD you want, you can PRACTICE anywhere!!.... cali wont let you do rotations or residencies but you CAN practice there once you do a residency elsewhere, i.e. NY, FL, MI, wherever....
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you are misinformed my friend.
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:00 PM
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just to clear up confusion... for all those ppl out there who are so worried about california --> cali will not appprove for rotations or residencies in the state, BUT once you finished residency anywhere and become the MD you want, you can PRACTICE anywhere!!.... cali wont let you do rotations or residencies but you CAN practice there once you do a residency elsewhere, i.e. NY, FL, MI, wherever....
hope this helps
Again, here's what I have:

Only 2 states have a formal "accreditation process"
  1. NY accreditation allows schools to obtain more than 12 weeks of just clinical rotations (year 3 and 4 of school). It does not directly guarantee residency or licensure. Although, this could help in clinical/residency placement and licensure in New York and several other states. You do not NEED accreditation for residency or licensure in NY. NYS Medicine Application Forms
  2. California accreditation allows for clinicals, residency, and licensure in that state and almost everywhere else. Without it, you are not permitted to practice in that state, it will be considered a class B misdemeanor. Medical Board of California -
Only 6 states have lists of approved &/or disapproved schools:
  1. California - Medical Board of California -
  2. Indiana - Medical Licensing Board of Indiana
  3. Kansas - KSBHA -
4. Texas has an approved list for med schools. Physician Applicants
and DISAPPROVED list for schools in general : THECB > Academic Affairs and Research > Private Colleges and Institutes > Fraudulent Institutions

5. Florida has an approved list in a PDF file under "Our Institutions": Commission for Independent Education - Home

6. New York - approved list only - NYS Medicine Application Forms


Clinicals, Residency, and Licensure varies slightly state to state, I have found this link through someone else's post that refers to each individual states...
http://www.valuemd.com/international...al-states.html
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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Here is the site where it states that even applying for a license in Texas is illegal. A class B Mis. in fact. I don't think that anyone will be applying in Texas very soon.
THECB > Academic Affairs and Research > Private Colleges and Institutes > Fraudulent Institutions
This list and site are very misleading. There are students doing residencies in Texas which requires a doctor in training license. This actually IS a license, so this disproves the site and your post right away. Also, most residencies in Texas will not accept any applicant that won't be able to practice in Texas. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not impossible and there WILL be many people applying in Texas very soon.
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This list and site are very misleading. There are students doing residencies in Texas which requires a doctor in training license. This actually IS a license, so this disproves the site and your post right away. Also, most residencies in Texas will not accept any applicant that won't be able to practice in Texas. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not impossible and there WILL be many people applying in Texas very soon.
not true - training licenses and full unrestricted licenses are two very different things- it is generally much easier (cali and pa are a few of the exceptions) but there is MUCH more scrutiny placed on applicants for the full license.

its a case by case issue when the school isn't on the disapproved list and you jump some extra hoops, but if your school is disapproved it is a no go, period. Its the whole reason Ross got onto the equivilant list to begin with! They were disapproved in Texas and their grads COULD NOT get licensed in Tx- they petitioned the tmb for a site visit and was able to get on the list.

if you seriously want to practice in texas, you need to talk to the tmb and find out exactly what you can and cannot do as an smu grad- but while your school's name is on that list- you may be able to get a training license, but not an unrestricted one.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:04 PM
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not true - training licenses and full unrestricted licenses are two very different things- it is generally much easier (cali and pa are a few of the exceptions) but there is MUCH more scrutiny placed on applicants for the full license.

its a case by case issue when the school isn't on the disapproved list and you jump some extra hoops, but if your school is disapproved it is a no go, period. Its the whole reason Ross got onto the equivilant list to begin with! They were disapproved in Texas and their grads COULD NOT get licensed in Tx- they petitioned the tmb for a site visit and was able to get on the list.

if you seriously want to practice in texas, you need to talk to the tmb and find out exactly what you can and cannot do as an smu grad- but while your school's name is on that list- you may be able to get a training license, but not an unrestricted one.
Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. I never said that training and unrestricted licenses were the same thing. I have talked to people and I know what I'm talking about. Have you actually researched with the TMB and read the TMB licensure rules? I have and I have read the rules over and over and over, so I know what I'm talking about.

Also, I've looked into MANY residencies in Texas, and almost all of them require you to have the ability to obtain an unrestricted Texas license after your residency.
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This is what i dont understand..i talked to PAT PARK..everything you have written is 100% correct..she is adimate about that..in her own words going to SMU the only thing you can be in california is a "visitor"..which sucks since im a native..but, its not like california is the only state out here..what im not 100% sure on, is besides CA, and Texas..what other states are SMU students not allowed to practice or do clinicals in/?? if anyone has that info, id be extremely happy to hear it..please PM me..
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:00 PM
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About california..GUYS..SMU IS DISSAPROVED BY CALI..therefore, NO MATTER WHERE YOU DO YOUR RESIDENCY OR GET YOUR LISNCENCE, IF ITS FROM SMU or any part of the curriculum done by SMU you either have 2 choices..1) repeat all of those courses at a CALIFONIA APPROVED SCHOOL (hence transfer to a school CA recognizes) or 2) forget about cali all together..please refer to the other posts that refer CALIFORNIA STATE BOARD IN SACROMENTO, OR DIRECTLY EMAIL PAT PARK..trust me, ive hit my head over this and have talked to her directly..there are no loop holes around it..the only thing you can be is a "visitor"..please no more misinformation people about cali..
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:26 AM
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States again....

Yes, the very first post already cleared up the fact California will be impossible to work in for ANY UNRECOGNIZED/DISAPPROVED school...

And, unfortunately SMU in these states (according to their websites/lists)

Kansas
KSBHA -

Indiana
Medical Licensing Board of Indiana

Texas
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Also unfortunately there appears to be a few states who are starting to follow california list. TN for example. I believe there are 3-4 states which follow cali list. please see the sticky 50 states in smu clinical.
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