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Old 04-15-2005, 09:41 PM
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Huh? For what reason are you so cynical? Do you think the AMA's lobby is too big of an impediment?
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I'll do everything that I can think of ...well lets just say I'll veto this.

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Huh? For what reason are you so cynical? Do you think the AMA's lobby is too big of an impediment?
In the word of LBP (lets see if you have the knowledge to figure this Osler winner).."The (states) have an agenda not agreable with the world"
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I'll do everything that I can think of ...well lets just say I'll veto this.

Sincerely GWB
Huh? For what reason are you so cynical? Do you think the AMA's lobby is too big of an impediment?
In the word of LBP (lets see if you have the knowledge to figure this Osler winner).."The (states) have an agenda not agreable with the world"
Write in candidates and campaigns usually start with a large disadvantage but if you can harness the vision of the US behind you it can win. Problem is most people in the US don't even know that people go to offshore schools I imagine but who knows and they don't know how people finance medical school educations for sure. They think all doctors are rich anyway.
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my loan money comes from a tree that i planted the other day. i think you all need to get one.
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It would be a good idea (and a unifying one for all Carib med schools) to put some heat on the US Gov by writing letters and making phone calls. A lobbyist, too, would be extremely helpful and well worth the money to devise a strategy that will push these bills through. Any thoughts?
JTP thats an important point u raise, theres many schools affected by this issue... not just unique to SMU (ie saba, mua etc.. etc..) everyone should be lobbying for change.. there is strength in numbers... and as offshore students ... should make ur voices heard... at the end of the day when all the bashing is said and done.. everyones gonna end up working side by side doin rotations or residency with students/grads from other schools.. all gonna end up in the same place.. so its prudent that we put our differences aside and work together for an important cause such as this one... need to be fighting the bill instead of eachother...
I agree. I'm going to Saba, and I'll have to edit the letter a little to reflect that, but I'm sending letters to my representative and senator today.
Thanks for the info, JTP! 8)
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Re: Attachments: DRAFT Letter to Senators

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I am an American student at St. Matthew’s University School of Medicine. St. Matthew’s, which is located on Grand Cayman Island, is a fully accredited medical school recognized by the U.S. Department of Education as meeting the same rigorous academic standards as medical schools in the United States....

I have met the same competitive admissions standards as other medical students studying at medical schools in the United States.
uh, DOE does not accredit! so, that is blatantly wrong.

and, i really don't think the "same competitive admission standards" is very accurate either...

i don't really think lying, (or at the very least, exagerating) to senators is a great thing...i mean, i know they typically make a living lying to us, but geez!
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Well, if students disagree with the wording then they should edit it accordingly. It's still a worthy goal to try to get staffords.
You can already get staffords where you're at!
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Neilc,

There is nothing in your quoted statement that is a lie.

I for one am very tired of being called a liar on a daily basis.

"St. Matthew’s, which is located on Grand Cayman Island, is a fully accredited medical school recognized by the U.S. Department of Education as meeting the same rigorous academic standards as medical schools in the United States.... "

There are two seperate statements in there, nowheredo we claim to be accredited by the USDOE. We are fully accredited by the ACCM, which is they same agency as SABA and AUC. The following is copied directly from the NCFMEA's site:

http://www.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/ncfmea.html



Mission

1. What is the role of the National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation (NCFMEA)?

The role of the NCFMEA is to review the standards used by foreign countries to accredit medical schools and determine whether those standards are comparable to the standards used to accredit medical schools in the U.S. The Committee's function is specified in Section 102(a)(2)(B) of the Higher Education Act, as amended.

2. Why is this type of comparability determination important?

It's important to American students who want to attend a foreign medical school and wish to receive loans under the Federal Family Educational Loan (FFEL) to help them with educational expenses. If the NCFMEA determines that a foreign country's accreditation standards for medical schools are comparable, then any accredited medical school in that country is eligible to apply to the U.S. Department of Education to participate in the FFEL Program.



I have met the same competitive admissions standards as other medical students studying at medical schools in the United States.

The only part of this I will cede is the MCAT. Our students must have the same pre-reqs, clinical experiences, and so on for admission. [/i]
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What's with these people (whoever this applies to) who wish to focus on igniting controversy vs. finding a solution. If you want to help, great! If you want to "stir the pot", why bother?

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well, then i would insert a comma...it sounds like you are claiming DOE accreditation. and, i would insert the NCFMEA recognition. i think clarity would be an important goal...

and, you say that you have the same prereqs for admission, but that is a long way from the same standards! please, do give me a break on that one...admission standards implies that the academic level on the pre-req is higher..i mean, i think we would all agree that the admission standards for harvard are a bit higher than podunk state...but, they prob have the very same pre-reqs!

i am all for creative selling, but that is a bit ridiculous.
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