Thread: how does being on a disapproval list affects the school

i just want to make sure, is it true that if you are in a disapproval list, you can only practice in 35 states?
or is that not true, and that there's other ways around this?

Originally Posted by cutelilMD

i just want to make sure, is it true that if you are in a disapproval list, you can only practice in 35 states?
or is that not true, and that there's other ways around this?

I can't say exactly the number of states that wouldn't allow you to practice if you graduate from a disapproved school,but the truth is a that many states where you could be licensed if the school you graduated is not recognize,wouldn't allow you to practice there just because the school is on the disapproved list,this would be a stigma and maybe it could even limit your practice abroad.for example in the U.K,the GMC double checks all your transcripts if you graduate from St.Matthew's university,whereas if you graduate from other Caribbean schools,You'd be absolutely fine.

Originally Posted by cutelilMD

i just want to make sure, is it true that if you are in a disapproval list, you can only practice in 35 states?
or is that not true, and that there's other ways around this?

36 if you include the state of shock

where did you get this number?

as far as i know, and according to the match list, its more like 5 states that we cant practice in...out of those, only one is actually livable.

Interesting!

35 give and take is the consensus. They're following Cali's decision. Do a search, it's been discussed to death. The only way at this time to get around it is to do the VA system, which you can do anywhere. It also isn't constant. There was a time when it seemed like everyday there was another state joining the list.

And regardless of the states, plenty of residency programs will look at the individual, see they went to a disapproved school, and say "how about no." Not fair, but reality. Regardless, don't expect a real answer from the school.

Who cares how many states are on the disapproval list. It only matters if you have a specific preference where you want to do your residency. If that's the case then this school isn't right for you. There are Plenty of opportunities for residencies graduating from this school. My advice is be grateful and put your head in the books. If you believe St. Matt's will not get you to where you want to go, then I advice to be somewhere else. Im guessing if you guys are here, it's because you couldn't get into anywhere else. It may not be the perfect school but no school is, but I can tell you if you work hard, you will get your ultimate goal and that is residency. After residency you can go wherever you want.

After residency you can go wherever you want.


No... you can't. That is kind of the point.

You are blocked from residency AND PRACTICE in California and some other states. Other states that follow the CA list may allow you to practice there after you are licensed for x number of years in another state, but that is not the case across the board.

You are totally correct about making the most of the options that are available to you, wherever you study, but you can't simply "go wherever you want" after residency.

Wouldn't stop me from pre-matching in PA for FM, really, how many states do you wanna live in?? Most of the states would honor your prescriptions even though you're licensed in a neighboring state. Personally, I have been living and grew up in the North East, and that's where I wanna end up and settle down. Do a careful research about your state medical board before you cough up 200K for SMU, people, this ain't no joke investment.

For those who don't understand the consequences of school in disapproval list, let me explain:

If a state follows the cali list, then St. Matthew graduates can not practice there in the future. However, if you go to schools like St. James, windsor, or IAU you will be able to practice in states that follow the cali list, but not in california. This is where case by case comes in, for example: if you come from St. James, you will have to get license at a state that accept st. james, then with that licnese you can apply for permission to practice in states that follows the cali list such as Nevada. If you are permitted to practice in Nevada, then you will be practicing under the license from another state.

Even though st. Matthews is NY approved and very established, but it's disapproval status have made this school way more limited than the other lower caribbeans schools.

This is actually very serious because other states are planning to follow the cali list. It's so much cheaper and saves so much time to just play the cali system. Basically reject whatever cali rejects. Luckily, they also follow the case by case system in which they will look and accept individual if that school they came from weren't in a disapproval list.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I've obtain these info through medical school boards and officials.

But, I feel there might be another way around this. For example: another alternate to the five pathway law.