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Old 06-02-2007, 01:46 AM
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in TEXAS! Who are the true criminals?
Apparently SMU students
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I recently came across the SMU page on Wikipedia. Being a new student and reading such information was very disturbing. I am investing a lot of money and time into my education at SMU and I wasn't too happy when I read the page. The only thing that kept me from freaking out was knowing that Wikipedia is not always factual and is edited by users...the same way ValueMD is.

If you look at the very first entry about SMU on Wikipedia....it's from June of 2006 and speaks pretty positively and accurately of the school.

Check out this link: St Matthews University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]


I'm happy someone has brought this to everyone's attention. Hopefully something will be done about the SMU page on Wikipedia.


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that is a whole different issue. wikipedia is a source that has every right to exist and smu is as good a subject as any. its up to the reader to understand the limitations of the source. calling for intervention by officials for slanderous material (or rather as rightly pointed out, libelous) is unreasonable. May as well ask for VMD and every blog to be taken down. if something incorrect comes up on wiki, you can always change it or post your arguements. if vandalism becomes a problem. wiki will lock it to anonymous users. in other words, effective mechanisms are in place that permits the free exchange of information with a reasonable level of responsible checks and balances.
The wikipedia page needs updating..
Im not saying intervention is required, however the page should include other factual information, which would give the page more credibility and is not libelous that damages the schools reputation.
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  • Texas: similarly placed SMU on their list of "Substandard or Fraudulent Institutions", and notes that attempting to use the degree to obtain a medical license is a Class B Misdemeanor in that state.[7]
Just some input, the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board prohibits all graduates from schools accredited by the ACCM (which includes Saba, AUC, and SMU) to practice in Texas, and practicing under a diploma from such school is considered a midemeanor. Someone intentionally left that tid bit of information out, which is biased. I contacted the THECB and have the email where the official states that ANY graduate from a school accredited by the ACCM is not allowed to practice in Texas period. He said it had nothing to do with proving with equivalency, rather that the THECB does not recognize the ACCM as an accrediting body.
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if you want to police wikipedia that is your right. frankly that's barking up the wrong tree in my view. (to say nothing of the info being substantially correct.)
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Just some input, the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board prohibits all graduates from schools accredited by the ACCM (which includes Saba, AUC, and SMU) to practice in Texas, and practicing under a diploma from such school is considered a midemeanor. Someone intentionally left that tid bit of information out, which is biased. I contacted the THECB and have the email where the official states that ANY graduate from a school accredited by the ACCM is not allowed to practice in Texas period. He said it had nothing to do with proving with equivalency, rather that the THECB does not recognize the ACCM as an accrediting body.
but AUC students can practice in Texas. These state approvals are a sham.
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but AUC students can practice in Texas. These state approvals are a sham.
Not according to the THECB.
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some schools are in a situation where the study will be evaluated on a CASE BY CASE basis. In texas under no circumstances should you assume this means youre likely ok just cos you crossed your T's and dotted your i's. they are VERY fickle. I dont know if SMU fallus under this group or if no one can practice frmo smu there.
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THECB > Academic Affairs and Research > Private Colleges and Institutes > Fraudulent Institutions

Texas is not hapening for SMU graduates, lets be real.
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Just some input, the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board prohibits all graduates from schools accredited by the ACCM (which includes Saba, AUC, and SMU) to practice in Texas, and practicing under a diploma from such school is considered a midemeanor. Someone intentionally left that tid bit of information out, which is biased. I contacted the THECB and have the email where the official states that ANY graduate from a school accredited by the ACCM is not allowed to practice in Texas period. He said it had nothing to do with proving with equivalency, rather that the THECB does not recognize the ACCM as an accrediting body.
from the many auc graduates that are currently having no problem getting licensed in texas to the recent addition of auc on their medical school equivalency list....... auc graduates have no problem getting into texas.

i think you are reading too hard into what the texas board wrote about st matthews.

"No accreditation from a CB recognized accreditor. Headquartered in Florida & has locations in Florida, New York, Maine, & Grand Cayman. Disapproved by the California Medical Board for licensure or training on 2/18/05. Disapproved by the Medical Licensing Board of Indiana as of 12/05/2002."

it seems that it wasnt "just" the CB recognized accreditor issue. if it was, then auc would have problems getting graduates licensed. however, they clearly are not having problems even with the less paperwork required due to auc's recent appearance on the equivalency list as mentioned above.

to sum it up, i think the SMU appeared on this list because of all the issues mentioned collectively. do i think that the deserve to be on that list..... no. however, how i feel doesnt matter.

in any case, aren't smu graduates already practicing in texas? if they got approved even with smu on this list.... does it really matter?
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