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Old 11-20-2006, 11:35 PM
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I personally thought the exam was pretty challenging, reminded me of my undergrad days. I've got to defend Dr. U here.. I think he's actually a decent teacher. His English is fine, just as good as the other two physio teachers. His working knowledge of the subject is phenomenal, unlike many of the other teachers this semester (biochem).
I don't think we should make such a big issue about this, all the professors proctoring the exam saw that nobody was able to finish on time (aprox 60% of the class was still there with 5minutes remaining). I’m sure they will take this into consideration when viewing the grades and assessing a curve.
Who knows, this test format may be more like USMLE/SHELF style, so maybe we should be getting used to it..
lets see the average and curve then we can man's best friend, but I hear you, it was tough.

I never said that Dr. U dont know his stuff... he mite know physiology INSIDE OUT... mite know EVERY SINGLE THING there is to know about physio.... BUT if you cant explain it to your students then maybe you shouldnt be a prof.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:43 PM
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Why did you not come on Value MD before the exam or go to Dr N
before the exam to complain about the guys standard of english?
That just reminds me when students in our class were complaining
about the standard of english in DR N's exam and he straight up told them
that he copied the questions word for word from the shelf exams.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:44 PM
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On a related note, physio is one of the tougher subjects to teach yourself for the boards
So true. Had a hard time teaching myself physio when at Ross. Some professors were good, some were bad. Managed to pull through with the BRS physio (and the Physiology book by the same author), and pretest questions. Good luck guys and hopefully everyone will pull through this one.
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Hotmale_on_a_plate and others:
I personally thought the exam was pretty challenging, reminded me of my undergrad days. I've got to defend Dr. U here.. I think he's actually a decent teacher. His English is fine, just as good as the other two physio teachers. His working knowledge of the subject is phenomenal, unlike many of the other teachers this semester (biochem).
I don't think we should make such a big issue about this, all the professors proctoring the exam saw that nobody was able to finish on time (aprox 60% of the class was still there with 5minutes remaining). I’m sure they will take this into consideration when viewing the grades and assessing a curve.
Who knows, this test format may be more like USMLE/SHELF style, so maybe we should be getting used to it..
lets see the average and curve then we can man's best friend, but I hear you, it was tough.

This test format that we had today isn't like the shelf or the USMLE from what I've noted. I mean, I haven't done every question there is to do under the sun but the ones I have done aren't like that. Nope....... Not at all.
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  • They hire a new professor to teach physio and he don’t even speak English clearly. Well, I don’t understand MOST of what he says.
  • He cant explain things clearly which is why after the second day he started teaching, more than half of the class would either come in after break or leave after break because it was simply a waste of time
  • I personally thought I needed a translator in his class. Can’t believe I actually wasted my time sitting in.
  • He reviewed on Friday for what we should focus on for the exam, and guess what, none of his review points were tested on the exam. Yet again, a waste of one hour review time.
  • Exam was today and reflected none of what he taught in class… what a waste of time and part of the tuition I paid ( about 10K, not to mention the living cost )…
  • exam questions were NOT USMLE type… options included
    • a VERY CLOSE option
    • Another VERY CLOSE option but probably not the BEST option.
    • Only A and B
    • A, B and C
    • Non of the above
  • The process of elimination went out the window… we basically had 2 options to work with… spent half the time thinking that since both the options are correct I should go with c, but the if I go with C, then why not D… and before I knew, I had about 10 questions and 10 min. left and still needed time to fill out my scantron. After the time was up, I thought that I was the only one… looked up and more than 80% students were still sitting there with a blank look on their face, that look of, “WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE…. DID I JUST GET SCRUED?”
  • Questions were freaking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG… I don’t mind long questions IF the professor had prepared us for the concepts he was gong to test. Heck, I had a micro exam in the morning and it had 80 questions ( as compared to 75 questions on physio exam) and I was done well within the given time with no pressure. And Dr. N Questions are usually kinda loooong too and can make your brain HURT, but he prepares you for the exam during class.
  • I’m not the smartest person in the class but I passed both, Exam 1 and 2 and have an avg. of 80, but I know that this exam is gonna fail me… special thanks for Dr. U ( I wrote U for his name for 2 reasons… 1) we cant mention names here on VMD, 2) like Onesolo said in class that if there was a question on exam to spell his name, I mite have to cheat on that one … LOL )
  • Finally, I heard Dr. N say in micro that SMU is doing what it can to improve the quality of professors here. Can someone please explain how the quality is being improved when a new professor hired CANNOT speak English properly and CANNOT explain the material and DOES NOT KNOW how to make an exam? Did someone even interview him before hiring ( in English) or maybe he was interviewed in his own language??????? I’m not trying to be mean Dr. U ( if you’re reading this ) I just don’t wanna fail a course because you dono how to teach or at least guide us to what your exam is going to be like…
It seems as though you are no master of the english language yourself with all your spelling errors,
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Does anybody know the rule regarding withdrawing from a course 3 times? This is my 3rd time taking physio. I had a 75 going into today's exam but after today..I will definetely drop. So assuming I am failing the course going into the shelf and need to drop physio, what is the procedure? I know that if you fail 24 credits, you can get kicked out. What about withdrawing 3 times coz if I have to withdraw this would be my 3rd time.
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Why did you not come on Value MD before the exam or go to Dr N
before the exam to complain about the guys standard of english?
That just reminds me when students in our class were complaining
about the standard of english in DR N's exam and he straight up told them
that he copied the questions word for word from the shelf exams.

YO! ONESOLO... didnt i tell you a week before the exam that they are going to say, "why didnt you complain BEFORE taking the exam, youre jusr complaining coz you failed it"...

PEOPLE... what can you say?

some students did talk to Dr. N... but do you really think they are gonna do anything about it? I, myself went in to speak with both of the other profs a week before exam, told em that if i failed the course, it would be his fault because i seriously have no clue to what he wants from us.

I did BRS Qz ( got 1 wrong out of 40 Qz )
did Kaplan Qz ( didnt get a single Q wrong )
Did pre-test Qz ( got 7 Qz wrong )
Took the new profs exam.... dont even remember the questions ( except
for the 7 match problems).

He put in all the values jumbled in ONE question with about 7 follow up questions...
i remember Dr. N saying this in class that USMLE is trying not to put in follow up questions because if a student gets that first question wrong, they would end up getting the second one wrong as well... Yet! here we had 7 follow up questions... nice...
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:28 AM
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It seems as though you are no master of the english language yourself with all your spelling errors,

Hmm... i wish the prof couldnt spell instead of not being able to speak english properly... i have a recording of his lecture that you mite be interested in listening to... it gave me a headache trying to understand what he's trying to explain...

maybe you could be our translater/spell checker... interested in the new job opening?

anyway...maybe english is not Dr. U's problem... i mean look at Dr. N, he's not all that great either but he knows how to explain stuff...
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Everything being written about the present-day smu physiology course sounds identical to the one that was conducted several semesters ago. And the net result was a poor physio course that I do not believe prepared the average passing student in that class well for step 1. But SMU did have well-taught courses like psych, path, pharm, micro and perhaps some others. Something like psych would have been easier to self-teach. Self-teaching an extensive and involved course like physio without the normal 50 percent base of knowledge instilled by most courses at smu is a real challenge, so however the still dysfunctional smu physio course proceeds, at least try to learn the brs physio.
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Let me say that several people did come to me about going to Dr. N and Dr. P about this specific subject in Physio. so asking "Why didn't you do it before hand" is null and void. As a matter of fact, 11 people to be exact came to me about this. It was vocalized and noted however, it's really hard for professors to do anything prior to the exam being given and then after it has been given it's normally too late. On a personal note though I feel that you should always take complaints directly to the professor first which is what I did. In all fairness to the physio department I argue that it has two of the best professors this school has to offer and I know that with given time Dr. U will be just as good. I feel that I was taught and learned physio very well this semester. This is just a bump in the road which with time can only get better. At this point I'll just sit back and see what happens and hope that I didn't do as bad as I feel like I did.
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