08-12-2004, 06:09 PM
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SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SMU
Hi i was planning on atteding SMU this fall. I was wondering if this school is or has been acredited anywhere in the United States. Also where are clinicals offerd. Any particular states or anything. How many students, teachers are currently attending the school. Does the school prepare students for the USMLE?
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08-12-2004, 06:37 PM
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About S.M.U.
Please go to our website www.martinus.edu, and many of your questions will be answered, or you can always send me an email federico.fingal@martinus.edu and I will make sure that your specific question will be properly answered.
Best regards
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Federico R. Fingal It Director MCP, MCSA, MCSE
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12-06-2004, 06:27 PM
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clinical rotations
We are working on accreditation in several states but accreditation is a long, involved process that takes some time. Young universities don't get accredited right away, unless they are affiliated with some established, accredited institution.
We have clinical rotations set up in Atlanta and are setting them up in two other regions of the US but I don't want to say where just yet because the agreements are not signed. Certainly, as soon as they are signed, we will be posting it.
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Mark A. Hawkins, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Medical Ethics St. Martinus University
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12-13-2004, 11:19 AM
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clinical rotations in USA
We now have rotations set up in New York City and Chicago, as well as in Atlanta.
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Mark A. Hawkins, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Medical Ethics St. Martinus University
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08-25-2005, 11:50 AM
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I am a bit confused
Can anyone answer these questions for me?
FOCUS ASKED I was wondering if this school is or has been acredited anywhere in the United States. Also where are clinicals offerd. Any particular states or anything. How many students, teachers are currently attending the school. Does the school prepare students for the USMLE? thanks. It does not state which hospitals clincals are provided at. Where if any at all if it is acredited in the United States DR HAWKINS WROTE We now have rotations set up in New York City and Chicago, as well as in Atlanta. I have been told by students who transferred from this school that ................... 1-St Martinus is NOT acredited anywhere in the United States. 2- There are less than 30 students enrolled 3- There are only about 6-7 teachers, and that one of these teaches psychology/psychiatry and ethics but is neither a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist or a doctor. 4- The school claims to prepare students for the USMLE, but although the first group of grads finished thier course last fall only ONE of them passed step one. 5 More students have transferred from this school in the last four semesters than students enrolling. 6- There are definitely no clinical rotations set up in New York City, Chicago, or Atlanta. Are these things really true? or are these the words of man's best friending students
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08-25-2005, 04:39 PM
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Hey, the information you have received is not up to date. I think the students who transferred are not the right source of current information. I am a student over here and I know whatever you said is crap.
People like you come and write B.S. don’t get me wrong but why do you guys write what you are not sure about. Whatever you write is not at all verifiable. I have been told by students who transferred from this school that ................... 1-St Martinus is NOT acredited anywhere in the United States. Accreditation is a lengthy process. It’s not true we are not accredited anywhere. When the first students apply for licensure and if they are rejected then you can say we are not accredited. It’s true for certain states like CA, NM, KS, etc. or may be bunch of them it’s not possible to get licensure. In more than 30 states you are not required to get accredited before hand. Instead they look on individual basis. Graduates of St. Martinus are eligible for ECFMG certification, and they can apply for licensure in many states. They are plenty of states which require WHO listing, IMED listing, ECFMG certification and the course work successfully. So I believe that will not be a problem except a few states. In past graduates from other new Caribbean schools have succeeded in getting license, so can we. All the schools when started were not accredited, it is a long process and in coming times we will also be accredited. For more information on licensure of a particular state please contact FSMB. 2- There are less than 30 students enrolled You are wrong. At present we have more than 35 students enrolled. You can come over to check, I will welcome you. May be the information provided to you is not accurate. It’s a new school, slowly and steadily the student population will increase. 3- There are only about 6-7 teachers, and that one of these teaches psychology/psychiatry and ethics but is neither a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist or a doctor. Again you are wrong. I think you should go back and do some research before posting all this B.S. We have around 12 permanent faculty members on the Island. I have not counted the visiting faculty members and adjunct faculty members. They also give some guest lectures. Hey we have two faculty members for psychiatry and medical ethics. One is a PhD. And other is a well known Psychiatrist from Boston. So I think I have made my point. 4- The school claims to prepare students for the USMLE, but although the first group of grads finished thier course last fall only ONE of them passed step one. Yes the school do prepare for USMLE Step 1. I am taking the USMLE review course. Now the review course is integrated in 5th semester as integrated medicine course. The grads who took review course will be taking step 1 soon and I will let you know about the result. The school is new and the percentage of student passing usmle will definitely increase with time. 5 More students have transferred from this school in the last four semesters than students enrolling. This is also not true. You think so, there are many students enrolled and handful of them left. Few of them who left were complete failures. They did their course work here, failed their course but got credits for the same courses from other schools. 6- There are definitely no clinical rotations set up in New York City, Chicago, or Atlanta. Again go and do some more research. If you have no idea what’s going on over here then why do guys post false statements. St. Martinus do have clinical rotations setup in CT, MD, GA, MA, NC, Curacao and India. All this information is authentic. Are these things really true? or are these the words of man's best friending student. No these things are not all true, it's full of lies. Please don't try to mislead other prospective students. Just go away from here.
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08-27-2005, 02:08 PM
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Smart doctor
Who wrote this post for you? Checking your previous posts your English has improved a bit, but you must still work on your punctuation, and telling the truth.
You know, and I know and everyone knows that St Martinus is NOT acredited anywhere in the United States......and wont be for a long time. SGU ROSS AUA and SABA are accredited in all 50 states- St Martinus in none. I will write the individual Boards and post the responses I get to prove to everyone that St Martinus is not approved anywhere. I said that there are less than 30 students enrolled- you say "we have more than 35 students enrolled," and Dr Hawkins said in a recent post that you had 4O, and in another less than 35. Which is it? Tell me smartie, how many students left ST Martinus in the last semester- during the semester and at the start of the semester? Nine in total. How many enrolled? One! Are our sources inaccurate here? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Both AUA and Xavier are newer schools than St Martinus. They both started last May.St Martinus is almost three years old. Both these schools have more students. AUA is approved in NY already! Smart doctor, why do you lie? You know that you do not have 12 permanent faculty members. Lets count . OK. Last semester, Dr E taught Physio........right? DR K & Dr S taught Neuro ........right? Dr D left and a Dr G replaced him to teach Path.......right? the owner's niece, Dr M who has just herself took Step 1 was teaching you the USMLE review, right? Dr B taught Biochem.....right? Dr H taught Psychology Ethics, Dr S taught Physical Diagnosis right? These were the only subjects offered last semester right? Because at St Martinus all the subjects are not offered every semester right? Drs E K S G M B H =1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7 teachers Smart doctor. Just as Oleandergarten said in his posts! You dont have 17 teachers for the 17 courses you advertise that you offer. Will you indicate who the other permanent 5 staff members are? As you can see my sources are fairly accurate, Smarty . Are they not? You must understand that whereas students at St Martinus dont speak up much, that they are not happy, and that they are still in contact with thier friends who have transferred out from that place. There are no visiting faculty members and adjunct faculty members. Do you know what the word adjunct means? The list on your website is incorrect and you know it. Last semester you had no Psychiatrist from Boston on staff, and you know it. Dr H advertised himself in all his posts as Asscocciate Professor of Psychology and Ethics. Go back and read them, before you lie again. You know, and others know that he is a PhD but not a physician, a clinical psychologist nor a psychiatrist.You know, and others know that he was an example of very poor casting in the St Martinus charade. You have indeed made your point. You are speaking untruths.....confabulating.......telling lies Yes, one imagines and hopes that the percentage of students passing USMLE will increase with time, but now the percentage stands at 25%. Smart doctor, it seems that you are so diligently studying that you do not know what is going around you. Either that, or you like to lie. In a school with less than 40 students when 9 students leave in one semester that is very significant. So it is indeed true that more students have transferred from this school in the last four semesters than students enrolling. Read what you write , there are definitely no clinical rotations set up in New York City or Chicago as advertised by Dr H: CT, MD, GA, MA, NC, Curacao and India are not New York City or Chicago Smart doctor, all of your posts are biased. One understands your loyalty to the school that you hope will make you a doctor. But common sense dictates that you keep quiet, when the truth about your school is posted on this forum. It is easy to ascertain the truth. When ever you lie, you confirm what is posted. People interpret it as you having some thing to hide. You are a good representative of the deception that characterises St Martinus and I/we are enjoying your pathetic attempts to defend St Martinus as you tell one lie after another. Take a leaf from Dr H's book instead of lieing he skirted around the facts. But you lie outright. You are one funny injun
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08-27-2005, 04:44 PM
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The real truth
Who wrote this post for you? Checking your previous posts your English has improved a bit, but you must still work on your punctuation, and telling the truth.
Hey, English is not my first language and it need a improvement. I will improve it and you can see the change. If English is your first language then you should be ashamed, there are lot of spelling mistakes which I can see. There are lot of mistakes in punctuations too. First correct your self before pointing out others. Whatever I have written is the truth but look at yourself, your lies will never over power the truth. Keep doing research on me. You know, and I know and everyone knows that St Martinus is NOT acredited anywhere in the United States......and wont be for a long time. None of the Caribbean schools have been accredited in 3-4 years after they opened. Its true St. Martinus is not accredited in NY, FL; CA etc. may be few of them more. But as I said in my earlier post we can get licensure in many states. I have personally sent email to all the 50 states. I have received reply from around 20 states and in most of the states we will not face any problem. Soon I will post those emails on the forum after legal consideration. For accreditation it takes long time. As we doesn’t have any gradates yet, specific accreditation is not possible. SGU ROSS AUA and SABA are accredited in all 50 states- St Martinus in none. I will write the individual Boards and post the responses I get to prove to everyone that St Martinus is not approved anywhere. I said that there are less than 30 students enrolled- you say "we have more than 35 students enrolled," and Dr Hawkins said in a recent post that you had 4O, and in another less than 35. Which is it? Tell me smartie, how many students left ST Martinus in the last semester- during the semester and at the start of the semester? Nine in total. How many enrolled? One! Are our sources inaccurate here? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? I said there are more than 35 students enrolled; it’s true. Yes 3 students left in middle of the trimester. 1 student took off a term, his personal reasons. 2-3 of them left last trimester. You can figure out who is correct. Both AUA and Xavier are newer schools than St Martinus. They both started last May.St Martinus is almost three years old. Both these schools have more students. AUA is approved in NY already! For your kind information AUA is not approved in NY. Manipal is approved in NY, go and check NY medical board website. Go and do your research, you have to spend more time in your research, boy. Check the link, http://www.op.nysed.gov/medforms.htm Smart doctor, why do you lie? You know that you do not have 12 permanent faculty members. Lets count . OK. Last semester, Dr E taught Physio........right? DR K & Dr S taught Neuro ........right? Dr D left and a Dr G replaced him to teach Path.......right? the owner's niece, Dr M who has just herself took Step 1 was teaching you the USMLE review, right? Dr B taught Biochem.....right? Dr H taught Psychology Ethics, Dr S taught Physical Diagnosis right? I will write the first letter you can figure out who are they. Dr. B Dr. B Dr. C Dr. E Dr. G Dr. H Dr. K Dr. M Dr. S Dr. S Dr. T Dr. T Stop talking about last trimester or old facts which doesn’t exist. Here is the complete list. If you want to see them personally then come over to Curacao. Please count carefully or you can count 100 times, it will be 12. These were the only subjects offered last semester right? Because at St Martinus all the subjects are not offered every semester right? Drs E K S G M B H =1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7 teachers Smart doctor. Just as Oleandergarten said in his posts! You dont have 17 teachers for the 17 courses you advertise that you offer. Will you indicate who the other permanent 5 staff members are? As you can see my sources are fairly accurate, Smarty . Are they not? Yes all the subjects are not offered every term. Depends on the students, who all are taking the course. As there are not many students so they have to offer the subjects which the students are doing. You cannot appoint a faculty of there are no students. You can see who is correct. Come with more real facts. If you cannot find sitting there then come over to Curacao. You must understand that whereas students at St Martinus dont speak up much, that they are not happy, and that they are still in contact with thier friends who have transferred out from that place. There are no visiting faculty members and adjunct faculty members. Do you know what the word adjunct means? The list on your website is incorrect and you know it. Everyone knows who is lying. All the students are happy; those who were not happy or doubted the school have already left. Students come and go, school will remain here and it will not close down if few students left. We do have visiting faculty and adjunct faculty members. The adjunct faculty members do take lectures. We had guest lectures by visiting faculty members. You can check martinus news for more information. Every week we have student presentation or faculty presentation or visiting and adjunct faculty lectures. Last semester you had no Psychiatrist from Boston on staff, and you know it. Dr H advertised himself in all his posts as Asscocciate Professor of Psychology and Ethics. Go back and read them, before you lie again. Hey again and again you are talking about last trimester or last year or year before. I am writing the latest. You cannot talk of past, every time there are changes. we have a well known psychiatrist from Boston. Please stop lying and throw away your outdated stuff.You know, and others know that he is a PhD but not a physician, a clinical psychologist nor a psychiatrist.You know, and others know that he was an example of very poor casting in the St Martinus charade. You have indeed made your point. You are speaking untruths.....confabulating.......telling lies Yes, one imagines and hopes that the percentage of students passing USMLE will increase with time, but now the percentage stands at 25%. He never said that he is a psychiatrist; he has done PhD in Psychology. It’s clearly mentioned in his credentials. Go and have a look, no one is lying like you. Every statement made by you is proved incorrect, and truth is in front. You can figure out who is lying. Yes now the percentage is 25% when more and more student writes, the percentage will go on increasing.Smart doctor, it seems that you are so diligently studying that you do not know what is going around you. Either that, or you like to lie. In a school with less than 40 students when 9 students leave in one semester that is very significant. So it is indeed true that more students have transferred from this school in the last four semesters than students enrolling. You are persistently lying. We have more than 35 students enrolled. I already wrote how many of them transferred out. I am a student over here, I am writing whatever I am seeing. I am not like you, depending on someone else’s information and writing all B.S. Read what you write , there are definitely no clinical rotations set up in New York City or Chicago as advertised by Dr H: CT, MD, GA, MA, NC, Curacao and India are not New York City or Chicago We definitely have clinicals set up in the above mentioned states. Chicago is under processes so I didn’t wanted to mention. NY the director of hospital came to Curacao but the final deal is not signed. I am not sure about it. I cannot write what I am not sure about it. Smart doctor, all of your posts are biased. One understands your loyalty to the school that you hope will make you a doctor. But common sense dictates that you keep quiet, when the truth about your school is posted on this forum. It is easy to ascertain the truth. When ever you lie, you confirm what is posted. People interpret it as you having some thing to hide. You are a good representative of the deception that characterises St Martinus and I/we are enjoying your pathetic attempts to defend St Martinus as you tell one lie after another. Take a leaf from Dr H's book instead of lieing he skirted around the facts. But you lie outright. You are one funny injun Everyone who is reading the posts can make out who is lying. I don’t have to mention it again and again. Dude, go and do your homework properly, you need to spend more time on your research. Stop lying, nobody will believe you. If you want to write latest than come to Curacao. I am a student at St. Martinus, no one knows about you. You pop up with different ID’s, write crap and go away. Talk about some real truth. Anymore lies. Quote:
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