Most people do the research while they are in residency so they can get competitive fellowships. You use the example of plastic surgery, which is most often a fellowship after a 5 year surgical residency. They don't go doing just research before applying for residency. G

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Picard and Teratos why do you chaps lower your ratings by trying to discuss anything with Frankinstone.

If you tried teaching the Circle of Willis to a todler, you would both have a 100% better chance of sucess, than in trying to discuss anything with this joker.


My St James friends tellme that he lies, and defends SJMS in his efforts to suck up to ****. They tell me that he trie to bribe lecturers with six packs and cigarettes, and that is how he tries to get gerades because he is a poor student.


My understanding is that the best students at SJMS dont come into the forum, because they spend thier time studying.

Anyway, fellas keep on giving us those statistics lessons , and telling us the TRUTH IN THE REAL WORLD.

Watch Franky respond now with a rush of diarhoea of bovine excrement.

This statement isn't slanted towards sinicism is it, Picard...... Followed by the following statement......
Yeah Picard, that's all you asked. You don't even know when they graduated. Just one simple question huh? Read you post above that. Does that sound like one simple question?

Additionally, I don't like everything that has happened at the school and I say it, like last summer with the professor problem, the facilities need to be upgraded sooner than later - its going on but too slowly, more notice on facility upgrades, and several more but I need not mention them to those who love to ride the pony to death.


Ishwiltshire,

Bribing the professors?? Listen to yourself man. For a person who is posting at ST. MARTINUS makes you suspect as it is. Now with ridicuous lies like that really makes me suspect your motives even more .How many students do you have left over there?? YOu living off the "personal loans from the owner too"? When will that school actually get loans? When the faculty stops lying to the incomming students, or will it continue to negotiate its tuition fees with individual students? Have they sold St. Martinus yet? I know its up on the auction block?

Which professor smokes that I bribe with cigarettes. None of my profs smoke and only one drinks. Who are these rediculous "friends" of yours because they are making a fool of you. I have only spoken to **** maybe 4 or 5 times. I guess your friends know my every minute activity, huh? Maybe they should be worrying about there own grades?

If you got the Cajones why dont you come to SJSM since you are so close and prove me wrong. Tell me personally what you think and know better than me. You ain't got the guts to tell me your name or your friends names. Your friends probably don't even know me or go the school anymore.


Oh is that what your "knowledgeable friends" tell you?
No, they are tired of reading the same people coming around and bashing the schools and using their caudal voicebox- like you.

I am no longer responding to this childish student banter.

IMHO, What do you care about what goes on at SJSM?? Don't go here and don't worry about it and get off the forum. Worry about your own school if you have one.

I hope everyone reading all these posts realizes the true nature of all these people. I am signing off from this garbage and if anyone having any questions about St. James who wants to ask and get a REAL student's opinion then read previous posts, or post a new thread, or if you want to be anonymous then PM me.


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So, you don't think that residency placement issues are important for off shore schools, especially one that has zero licensed grads and only two residents out of 10 graduates. Umm, I hope you and your fellow students have more sense than this, but maybe not... after seeing your posts... Again, if you are unable to answer these questions, stay off the topic. And "outsiders" DON'T NEED TO HAVE BEEN TO SJSM to discuss these questions -- they are universal concerns for foreign grads regardless of where you go to school. We are NOT discussing facilities or living conditions... we are discussing much larger pictures that are universal to all foreign grads... so for the nth time, we don't need to have seen your school to be able to discuss these issues. I don't care if the toilet don't flush or if the maids don't clean your classrooms. They have zero impact on the larger picture of licensure. We are discussing POST GRADUATE issues, something we know A HECK ALOT MORE than a basic science medical student because we've been through the hoops and are licensed/board certified IMG"s.

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http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

Good for you. No one asked you for your opinion on licensing issues. Answer them on your own forum or the general forum. Thank you.

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Thought you were done with this tread...

Again, if you have nothing substantive/intelligent to add to discussion, I suggest you spend the time studying.

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Academic Hospitalist/Assist. Professor of Medicine, Star Fleet Medical, Earth, United Federation of Planets
Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

Picard,

You are right, sorry. I did say I was done. No, hard feelings.

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Since you changed the post, I'll respond to this as well.

Another common misconception is that these forums are somehow "owned" by individual schools and when people post unpopular views of the school, cheerleaders of the schools often ask folks to leave "their" forum. Well, last I looked, SJSM does not own this board or this forum. And this is public, so anyone can post here. And if misinformation/lies are perpetuated here, there will be folks here to point them out. And potential students I'm sure don't care if other non-SJSM folks are here to point out a thing or two, especially important topics such as licensure that concerns all foreign grads. If a school has nothing to hide and don't mislead folks, they have nothing to worry about, as long as balanced information is presented. This is why you don't see these issues turn into hot topics/debates in other school's forums such as SMU, which is also a relatively new school.

And frankly, I'm disappointed that frankenstone, AS A MODERATOR, holds such an attitude to tell folks to get off "his" forum because we post unpopular view points in contradition with some of the very misleading information here (and some border illegal such as the Brigham situation). I think potential students deserve to know that what SJSM tried to pulled off at Brigham (and perhaps other places with "doctor affiliation" ) is illegal and can get them into trouble. And since SJSM and frankenstone were unwilling to inform potential students such information, we are more than happy to point them out.

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Academic Hospitalist/Assist. Professor of Medicine, Star Fleet Medical, Earth, United Federation of Planets
Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

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I won't join in on this anymore but BLATANT LIES about are no going to go unchallenged. I WAS THE ONE who called the Chicago office and found out directly that we only had a Physicians agreement with a doctor there, not anyone else. I was the one who pursued the facts and posted them as they were discovered, first. I agreed they were misleading. So all this garbage about me being "unwilling to inform" is **. REREAD the thread and you will know the truth. I am not a cheerleader for SJSM but I am not going to deliberately down the school or ANY school without talking to those who know and giving the benefit of the doubt.

Frankenstone

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