Our problem is with people like you who continuously brag about things that are inconsequential and using misleading tactics in doing so in order to feed your inferiority complex.
So, now you finally changed Sean from "Nobel Price Winner" to "Nobel Prize invitee" -- guess what, you still don't get it. Sean was NOT invited by Nobel committee -- According to Nobel committee, the invitation went to DWB. Nobel folks really don't care who went to pick up the prize on behalf of the organization. Sean went, like anyone from DWB could have. Again, this is your inferiority complex tactics trying to make yourself "feel good" through some of your classmates. What you fail to mention about Sean is that he did NOT pass his boards in OB/GYN right after his residency -- something that no doubt HURT his residency program come RRC review time -- RRC looks down upon programs whose graduates do not pass the boards within two years of graduation. Even Harvard graduates substandard physicians... so this name dropping about "MD Anderson this and MD anderson that" is really silly and insecure. If you look at graduates of established offshore schools, there are plenty more graduates with more impressive resumes compared with the handful you post for Spartan -- you don't see us flaunting them to make us "feel good". Potential students can careless about Sean's fake Nobel plaque he puts up in his office, or how he went to a Yale affiliate medical school.

It's really sad when a graduate has to resort to use misleading information and boasts about a few of his classmates accomplishments to make himself feel good. It reminds me of drunks I pulled over who claimed that he/she would have my badge because he/she knew my Watch Commander/Chief/Mayor/Congressman/Senator/President/God. They all went to jail just the same.

If you want to talk about serious topics like the survival of offshore schools (especially new ones that have not achieve any US jurisdictional approval or old ones who have flunked every approval process in the US) in light of pending FSMB positional statements and how potential students should be cautious to what may happen in the next 5 years to offshore schools... Or, discuss about honesty in school advertisement/tactics such as not placing students in illegal rotations or not solicit illegal clinical arrangements (you know, things that will come back and haunt students like my college roommate who now has an unlicensible MD and Spartan grads who are facing more and more licensing issues such as TN).... you know, things that will impact students -- rather than your non-sensical rant about your "successful classmates" -- than we will talk. Otherwise, let this thread die as it serves no useful purpose.

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Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

SGU,SABA,AUC,ROSS are the only approved schools in the carribean ,why would anyone these days go to unapproved schools?approval means CA and NY inspections and that is what many states will follow soon. schools that are not applying for approvals indicates their inability to have acceptable standards,I am sorry but that is the truth.

The problem with you Picard is your own insecurity, your jealousy and your continous need to bash. A bunch of articles by USA journalists were written about this Spartan grad being selected by the Norwegian Nobel prize committee among a select to receive the Nobel on behalf of Docs without Borders. They did the research, more research than you on your little computer with your jealousy complex.

That's good for him. He is very successful. That does not mean that everyone should now go to Spartan, just because we have a Nobel prize invitee. Even if he won 10 Nobels and the most glorious awards on the planet, that does not mean that people should now go to Spartan. Only someone really stupid would go to a school because of that.. There are many criteria for choosing a school and licensure being on the top of the list.

But this forum isn't all about which school is better or which school should you go to, as a prospective student... In the Spartan forum, the articles were posted on the Nobel prize invitee, the Stevie award winner, the Cardio talk-show host, the Physician of the Year, etc, etc... These articles and website were posted mainly for the grads to look at their classmates and for the current students to help motivate them to work to their best abilities.

You and neilc have a serious inferiority-jealousy complex and all you care about is going around this forum and putting down everyones school, grads, students. Why do you bash? Because it makes you feel better, as if you and neilc are better than anyone else.

Well, dude, you are not better than anyone else. You are both still off-shore students and grads, who didn't make it in the USA and now, in order to feel more superior and better about your sorry failures and insecurities, you are going around this forum bashing everything in site.

I know of a good psychiatrist that can help the both of you. He did his residency at Harvards' Brighams and Womans. Oh and by the way, he is a Spartan grad... -s&a

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...king&hl=en

I searched this doctor you guys discussing and found pages of info[did google.com search],they call him in Tampa world renowned physician and interim head of the dept.,published extensively,and participating in many courses and national CME events.
Nobel prize given to DWB org.,but also people make or break any org.[both of you are correct and have a goog point]

SEAN TEDJARATI - Realizing Dr. King’s Dream: A Call to Action on Health Disparities
On January 26 at 6 p.m. world renowned physician and human rights advocate Sean Tedjarati will deliver the keynote address at Realizing Dr. King’s Dream: A Call to Action on Health Disparities in the Stabile Research Building Auditorium at H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute.

Tedjarati is the interim program leader of the gynecologic oncology program and international liaison at Moffitt. He shares the 1999 Nobel Peace Prize for his work to establish women’s health care screening and treatment programs in Africa and China as a member of Doctors Without Borders.

Regardless if he went to school at St James or Oxford,People should go to approved established schools that gets them respect and license in the USA.

you forgot to list me in the bashing triad again!

both of you have good points and am sure were you speaking face to face the words would have more context to them and you would realize that there are no superiority or inferiority complexes just interpretations of the information based on your preconceived notions and personalities.

s&a sees a few good things, i don't know if i would call the anomalies? in the spartan universe and plays them to the max and beyond but he does make a point that if you work hard enough you can accomplish many thiungs

picard and neilc and maybe i do the same see it different and maybe do see those stories as anomalies? everyone's view on this side of the fence is why put extra stress on yourself 'if' you don't have to? so if for some reason you can't attend a school that has cal/ny approval then so be it.

increase the peace

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I see light at the end of the tunnel!!!...wait a minute its just another freakin tunnel!

Dude,

Your opinion..... your feeling or what you believe to be the case with the school standards are not credible.

And if you don't know why people would go to unapproved schools then you need to do more research. Additionally, there are schools that are on there way to approval. At St. James the progress in being seen, noted, and followed up on by students - myself included. NY will be the first for St. James due to the desire by many students in our school who want to or would like to practice in NY. Few students care to practice in CA in our school - if any.

If you can, go to an approved school. St. James is not for you. Noted.

Frankenstone

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Shock,
You can't have it both ways. You seem to pick and choose which media report you believe. When Az and others post negative media reports about Spartan, you cry foul and go on your non-sensical rants. When media report fradulent UHSA on-line degree advertized by unethical dentists, you rant and cry foul. You throw a tandrum when these media reports are noted investigated by medical boards, yet you flaunt your own media reports all over the place... only you don't bother to check facts with official sources. You can't have it both ways.

The differences is, when folks like Az post media links, they back it up with official source confirmations such as medical boards. And for the Nth time (I guess you are a slow learner), Nobel did NOT invite Sean. Nobel issued a general invitation to DWB and could careless who from the organization went to pick it up. This has been confirmed by Nobel, regardless of what newspaper you want to quote. Forgive us for believing the Nobel folks over your newspaper reporters. By the way, here is the link to Nobel's contact information site.
http://www.nobel.no/eng_ins_stf.html
E-mail them yourself and you will see... They are pretty ticked that Sean is milking his attendance and implying that he is a Nobel winner/invitee/has a plaque... etc. And stop bragging that Sean was "invited by Norweigen Nobel committee" nonsense. Have you ever wonder why Sean's employer changed his biographical data to remove these implications?

Believe your media reports all you want. Have the balls to back it up with official sources. It's call fact checking. Just ask Dan RATher of the esteem CBS organization how important fact checking is...

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Jean Luc Picard
Academic Hospitalist/Assist. Professor of Medicine, Star Fleet Medical, Earth, United Federation of Planets
Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

Umm, I'm not the one going around flaunting my classmates and dropping names. You don't see me going around bragging that we have a graduate who is an attending at Harvard, director of trauma surgery at a major university hospital, or having trained at UCSF... etc. You don't see me do that. I'm secure where I am.

Oh, and for the Stevie Award. Good for her. Great achievement -- but it ain't got anything to do with her degree at Spartan. She is a CEO, a very sucessful businesswoman. But she is NOT a physician. She is not licensed to practice medicine. Her achievement has more to do with her business skills than her medical skills. Her business school has more right to brag about this than Spartan. She doesn't even list Spartan on her biography on her company's website.

P

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Jean Luc Picard
Academic Hospitalist/Assist. Professor of Medicine, Star Fleet Medical, Earth, United Federation of Planets
Borg-Certified... Resistance is Futile.

In Glock, We Trust... Everyone Else... Keep Your Hands Where I Can See Them.

http://www.odmp.org/search.php?searc...=2001&cause=27
http://www.nypdangels.com/wtc.htm
http://www.hampsteadnh.us/police/A%2...ica%20Died.htm
http://longmontpolice.com/MEMORIAM.HTM

Franfenstone
good luck in your career,I am like you went to unapproved school in DR and I had no interest in CA, now if you apply to many states they tell you we look at CA for advise,states like VT,IN,NM,TX, and recently TN,the fsmb most likely will use CA reports[we hope not].I am on your side and we must try our best to convince the schools to seek approvals.